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Njung'e wrote:If Uhuru finds himself out of statehouse in 2017, it is because of Arap Tumetenga and his greedy,thieving boys. No, it will be because we will look for better alternatives.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:Njung'e wrote:If Uhuru finds himself out of statehouse in 2017, it is because of Arap Tumetenga and his greedy,thieving boys. No, it will be because we will look for better alternatives. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I think it is about time we reopen the "Kazi kwa Vijana" file. The 12B scandal was much much bigger than NYS. http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/115mt1dz/-/index.html
Quote: A multi-billion shilling World Bank project intended to boost the Kazi Kwa Vijana (jobs for youth) programme has been cancelled after an audit review revealed officials at the Office of the Prime Minister had misappropriated millions of shillings.
The World Bank now wants a refund of the money spent so far and taxpayers will be expected to foot the bill once the full extent of the losses is revealed. (READ: World Bank’s Sh12bn boost for jobs)
The bank had offered a grant of Sh4.3 billion (US$43 million) to support the Kazi Kwa Vijana scheme which aims to reduce the vulnerability of unemployed youth by offering a line of income for participation in infrastructure projects.
About 190,000 youths were supposed to have benefited from the latest phase of the initiative which was expected to have been significantly expanded due to the financing from international aid agencies. (READ: Why World Bank is pumping billions for youth jobs)
But a World Bank financial management review found that millions of shillings meant for young Kenyans had instead been paid to a number of senior officials in the PM’s office in contravention of the agreement between the bank and the government and in breach of procurement procedures.
The review identified a number of officials in the PM’s office who had spent up to Sh37.5 million on seminars which never took place, illegal allowances and payments to companies for services which do not appear to have been rendered.
One official, a deputy permanent secretary who is related to a Member of Parliament from Nyanza, was found to have received a monthly allowance of US$5,000 (Sh500,000) for 13 months for her work on the project while concurrently drawing a civil service salary.
Administration secretary at the PM’s office Abdul Mwasserah has now written to Treasury PS Joseph Kinyua informing him that Treasury should coordinate with the PM’s office to refund the Sh972 million (US$9,712,500) which had already been disbursed by the World Bank.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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Wow that affidavit is very interesting to read, like a book by Kenya's is it Sheldon ama ni Ludrum. How come the statements by Harakhe from last year were not known to the public? This is a juicy story for a good journalist. AM they should call in the BBC guys who did the doc on Wetangular to join the pieces. Its finally making sense and the Kabura thing seems to be done through advice by the same guys behind Waiguru's resignation. I wonder why Mutahi is not happy and Why Duale is waiting to read an affidavit that we have already read online Going by the affidavit, Corruption will never stop in Kenya, atleast not in this century. So who knows if those guys @EACC will not try and kill the story like that Kipruto guy in the CID ??? That guy HARAKHE has the b**ls
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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@harrydre and @ hardwood, What is the going rate per post?
If only all Kenyans were dedicated to their work as you two and others who will go unmentioned, Pilot wa DP , , , , , ,
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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washiku wrote:Njung'e wrote:If Uhuru finds himself out of statehouse in 2017, it is because of Arap Tumetenga and his greedy,thieving boys. No, it will be because we found a better alternative in Martha. I agree, but I have just corrected your future tense to past participleVote Martha!If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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mkeiy wrote:@harrydre and @ hardwood, What is the going rate per post?
If only all Kenyans were dedicated to their work as you two and others who will go unmentioned, Pilot wa DP , , , , , , @Harrydre, should be making around 20-30K a month for not less than 50 posts a month Mbao ngumu ni mtu wa 2-5K a month for not less than 200 posts a week If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/3/2015 Posts: 126 Location: Nairobi
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Let me say something that will attract the worst Matusis here. You are free to ask the admin to block my membership. For your benefit, I come from central region of our country.
Waiguru has been consistent throughout. She first indicated that no money was lost because they had successfully stopped the payments that are indicated in Harakhe's Letters. When the CID was investigating the issue of who had stolen Harakhe's Passwords they discovered that actually, there were some payments that had already been processed and paid out. That is when she came out and said, "Yes, I thought we had stopped the payments but in the course of investigating how Harakes password was stolen the CID discovered that there was money that had already been paid out". By the time the CID finally traced the bank account of Kabura, the accounts had been cleaned to zero most of it withdrawn in cash.
Where does Raila come in? I believe Raila did not at that time have the fine details of who was involved and he was not even 100% sure if money was stolen and if stolen, by who. In any case, he was more interested in scoring Political Points. But it was good he helped put pressure. The problem that we have is that we believe Politicians 100%. True the pressure helped but the target was misplaced. If today Raila stood up and said he was wrong and Waiguru's version is the correct one, Waiguru will become a Hero instantly .... but maybe he will not. The risk of acknowledging a mistake is that we may not trust him in the future.
How will Raila respond going forward now that it appears that he was blaming a more junior CS and there is an opportunity to go for a bigger Kill i.e the DP and the House Majority Leader. He will weigh his options and decide what provides him with more political killer blow and advantage.
Harake is actually they guy who messed all the thieves. The only support he got was from Waiguru.
Was the President aware of Harakhe and Waiguru's side of the story. I cannot say at what time he became aware of it but it is almost certain that by the time Waiguru resigned, the President had been given all the details by none other than Waiguru. What did the President do? Just like Kibaki in the Githongo issue, the President most likely hoped it will die away. In any case, he knew he was in power with the help of the other coalition that was being accused.
Many people feel for Uhuru because they believe he is clean. The question is, if it has always been public knowledge about the thieving ways of the leader of that other coalition, why did he team up with him? Is he like him or was he too desperate to become President?
Back to Raila. If he is Mr Clean, why did he also team up with the Rift Man at one time when he already knew his ways? Why is it that when the Kaazi kwa vijana scandal came to light, he asked that it be investigated by the efficiency monitoring unit a department under him while he demands that he can only accept a report from a private external audit firm? On the issue of a private external audit firm, I actually agree with him but I hope he would be consistent.
Which affidavit should we believe, Waigurus, Kaburas, both or none? Let's first get it that these affidavits have been filed in a civil matter not a the criminal case. The EACC will investigate the contents and test each of the affidavits. No one is going to be jailed just because there is an affidavit with no backup. The contents of these affidavits will be tested and I have a feeling Kabura's would have nothing to back it up with .... So Waiguru will not be convicted on the NYS issue as we may want because the fact is she was never involved. We will get angry with the EACC, CID etc... in any case, our politicians will tell us so. We will disband EACC, change the people who investigated etc. The kaburas, and team might be convicted but not the main players i.e the Politicians - they covered their tracks well.
In this deal, Waiguru and Harake are the spoilers. Kabura, Gethi and team are the fronts and they have the backup of the real players (Politicians) who are getting over 70% of the loot.
Only civil servants, the Gethis, Kabura, may be convicted. We will definitely be asked by out politicians to demand the blood of CID officers and EACC officers who investigated this for doing their Job as required. Kabura's affidavit will be cited to accomplish this notwithstanding that it is inspired by the political establishment to punish those who caused all this to happen to them. Of course there will be no evidence to convict the CID and EACC guys because no wrong was done but because of public pressure, they will be told to leave their Jobs. Come 2017, we will be fighting to determine which tribal team we feel comfortable robbing us while calling them our saviours.
Because of this, we will keep inviting or being invited by our struggling friends and relatives to medical fundraisers because we like it when our tribemate politicians steal what the government should have paid for our medical cost.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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timizo wrote:Let me say something that will attract the worst Matusis here. You are free to ask the admin to block my membership. For your benefit, I come from central region of our country.
Waiguru has been consistent throughout. She first indicated that no money was lost because they had successfully stopped the payments that are indicated in Harakhe's Letters. When the CID was investigating the issue of who had stolen Harakhe's Passwords they discovered that actually, there were some payments that had already been processed and paid out. That is when she came out and said, "Yes, I thought we had stopped the payments but in the course of investigating how Harakes password was stolen the CID discovered that there was money that had already been paid out". By the time the CID finally traced the bank account of Kabura, the accounts had been cleaned to zero most of it withdrawn in cash.
Where does Raila come in? I believe Raila did not at that time have the fine details of who was involved and he was not even 100% sure if money was stolen and if stolen, by who. In any case, he was more interested in scoring Political Points. But it was good he helped put pressure. The problem that we have is that we believe Politicians 100%. True the pressure helped but the target was misplaced. If today Raila stood up and said he was wrong and Waiguru's version is the correct one, Waiguru will become a Hero instantly .... but maybe he will not. The risk of acknowledging a mistake is that we may not trust him in the future.
How will Raila respond going forward now that it appears that he was blaming a more junior CS and there is an opportunity to go for a bigger Kill i.e the DP and the House Majority Leader. He will weigh his options and decide what provides him with more political killer blow and advantage.
Harake is actually they guy who messed all the thieves. The only support he got was from Waiguru.
Was the President aware of Harakhe and Waiguru's side of the story. I cannot say at what time he became aware of it but it is almost certain that by the time Waiguru resigned, the President had been given all the details by none other than Waiguru. What did the President do? Just like Kibaki in the Githongo issue, the President most likely hoped it will die away. In any case, he knew he was in power with the help of the other coalition that was being accused.
Many people feel for Uhuru because they believe he is clean. The question is, if it has always been public knowledge about the thieving ways of the leader of that other coalition, why did he team up with him? Is he like him or was he too desperate to become President?
Back to Raila. If he is Mr Clean, why did he also team up with the Rift Man at one time when he already knew his ways? Why is it that when the Kaazi kwa vijana scandal came to light, he asked that it be investigated by the efficiency monitoring unit a department under him while he demands that he can only accept a report from a private external audit firm? On the issue of a private external audit firm, I actually agree with him but I hope he would be consistent.
Which affidavit should we believe, Waigurus, Kaburas, both or none? Let's first get it that these affidavits have been filed in a civil matter not a the criminal case. The EACC will investigate the contents and test each of the affidavits. No one is going to be jailed just because there is an affidavit with no backup. The contents of these affidavits will be tested and I have a feeling Kabura's would have nothing to back it up with .... So Waiguru will not be convicted on the NYS issue as we may want because the fact is she was never involved. We will get angry with the EACC, CID etc... in any case, our politicians will tell us so. We will disband EACC, change the people who investigated etc. The kaburas, and team might be convicted but not the main players i.e the Politicians - they covered their tracks well.
In this deal, Waiguru and Harake are the spoilers. Kabura, Gethi and team are the fronts and they have the backup of the real players (Politicians) who are getting over 70% of the loot.
Only civil servants, the Gethis, Kabura, may be convicted. We will definitely be asked by out politicians to demand the blood of CID officers and EACC officers who investigated this for doing their Job as required. Kabura's affidavit will be cited to accomplish this notwithstanding that it is inspired by the political establishment to punish those who caused all this to happen to them. Of course there will be no evidence to convict the CID and EACC guys because no wrong was done but because of public pressure, they will be told to leave their Jobs. Come 2017, we will be fighting to determine which tribal team we feel comfortable robbing us while calling them our saviours.
Because of this, we will keep inviting or being invited by our struggling friends and relatives to medical fundraisers because we like it when our tribemate politicians steal what the government should have paid for our medical cost.
Is there a shorter version????? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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