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SGR Progress thus far
masukuma
#461 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 4:07:18 PM
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#462 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 4:40:24 PM
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The Chinese contractor is fencing the railway but has run into problems with residents opposing the fencing of the railway corridor. The residents claim that fencing the corridor will interfere with their lifestyles and economic activities. They want to be basking and grazing on the railway.

http://www.businessdaily...item-0-ngr5b5/index.html
Angelica _ann
#463 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 4:57:59 PM
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[quote=hardwood]The Chinese contractor is fencing the railway but has run into problems with residents opposing the fencing of the railway corridor. The residents claim that fencing the corridor will interfere with their lifestyles and economic activities. They want to be basking and grazing on the railway.

http://www.businessdaily...tem-0-ngr5b5/index.html[/quote]

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hardwood
#464 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:07:44 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=hardwood]The Chinese contractor is fencing the railway but has run into problems with residents opposing the fencing of the railway corridor. The residents claim that fencing the corridor will interfere with their lifestyles and economic activities. They want to be basking and grazing on the railway.

http://www.businessdaily...tem-0-ngr5b5/index.html[/quote]

Spin it kabisa, nowhere is that documented boss!!!!


Seems you haven't been following these SGR manenos.

http://www.the-star.co.k...ths-for-pupils_c1435216

Swenani
#465 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:02:01 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=hardwood]The Chinese contractor is fencing the railway but has run into problems with residents opposing the fencing of the railway corridor. The residents claim that fencing the corridor will interfere with their lifestyles and economic activities. They want to be basking and grazing on the railway.

http://www.businessdaily...tem-0-ngr5b5/index.html[/quote]

Spin it kabisa, nowhere is that documented boss!!!!


Seems you haven't been following these SGR manenos.

http://www.the-star.co.k...ths-for-pupils_c1435216


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hardwood
#466 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:22:29 PM
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Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=hardwood]The Chinese contractor is fencing the railway but has run into problems with residents opposing the fencing of the railway corridor. The residents claim that fencing the corridor will interfere with their lifestyles and economic activities. They want to be basking and grazing on the railway.

http://www.businessdaily...tem-0-ngr5b5/index.html[/quote]

Spin it kabisa, nowhere is that documented boss!!!!


Seems you haven't been following these SGR manenos.

http://www.the-star.co.k...ths-for-pupils_c1435216


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Gathige
#467 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:31:57 PM
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Just to digress a bit, for those who may have been lucky to visit Ethiopia, the Inter-City highways are fenced and it is a bliss to drive on them, with designated passes for the population. The minute you have a railway line where children play cha mama cha baba, wazee are on Ajua and mamas regularly do kamweretho besides the rail track, it will be disastrous.



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hardwood
#468 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:01:14 PM
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It is a legal requirement for railways to be fenced to keep off animals especially livestock from the tracks. Also people. You can imagine the SGR trains doing 120km/h then someone wants to cross the reli with his 200 cattle. Or kids are walking on the reli on their way from school. It would be disastrous.
aemathenge
#469 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 12:14:27 AM
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Njṹmbîrî are planning great Machizi Express accessory projects for Mambatha in the near term.

Six lane highways and expansion of various roads are but a few instances of these projects mentioned.

If these come to fruition, Nairobbery is headed for more traffic congestion while Mambatha will have nyweeee traffic

May so be it.

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Kusadikika
#470 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 4:30:32 AM
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Gathige wrote:
Just to digress a bit, for those who may have been lucky to visit Ethiopia, the Inter-City highways are fenced and it is a bliss to drive on them, with designated passes for the population. The minute you have a railway line where children play cha mama cha baba, wazee are on Ajua and mamas regularly do kamweretho besides the rail track, it will be disastrous.





People can actually coexist with trains in the same space and it does not have to be a disaster.


murchr
#471 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 5:16:25 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Just to digress a bit, for those who may have been lucky to visit Ethiopia, the Inter-City highways are fenced and it is a bliss to drive on them, with designated passes for the population. The minute you have a railway line where children play cha mama cha baba, wazee are on Ajua and mamas regularly do kamweretho besides the rail track, it will be disastrous.





People can actually coexist with trains in the same space and it does not have to be a disaster.





Is this what you'd want?
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muganda
#472 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 11:29:26 AM
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#473 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 3:28:56 PM
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murchr
#474 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 5:15:05 PM
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muganda wrote:


Yes the Chinese will run it. The Chinese will run the SGR for the first five years,... It was one of their conditions for footing 85% of the construction costs. What can Kenyan's show in terms of running the current rail? Chill and learn from others. The Lunatic was running very well when the muzungu was operating it.
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EngineerLMG
#475 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 5:50:27 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:

People can actually coexist with trains in the same space and it does not have to be a disaster.




That is, indeed, a disaster.
murchr
#476 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 10:22:23 PM
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Forget the talk by arm chair and keyboard analysts. Familiarize yourselves with the dutch project fyra and you'll understand why its important for the chinese to run the line.

These statements

Quote:
Elsewhere, the evacuation of goods from Mombasa Port is set to take a radical turn with experts warning of “certain death” for container freight stations (CFS) as the standard gauge railways nears completion.

The privately owned CFS facilities where bulk, liquid and containerised goods have been kept upon offloading to help ease congestion at the port may no longer be necessary at all.

According to the Kenya Railways Chief Executive Atanas Maina, the Sh327 billion SGR which will accommodate 1,620 boxed and flat wagons pulled by 43 DF8B freight locomotives will be able to haul 100 times more containers to Nairobi and beyond in a day

Mr Maina said that each cargo locomotive (DF8B) was capable of towing 216 Twenty-Foot Equivalent Units (TEUs) weighing an estimated 4,000 tonnes per trip and it is estimated that in top operation, the Mombasa Port will see 22 million tonnes cargo moved annually against the current 1.6 million.



Joho is finished.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Swenani
#477 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:31:20 AM
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murchr wrote:
Forget the talk by arm chair and keyboard analysts. Familiarize yourselves with the dutch project fyra and you'll understand why its important for the chinese to run the line.

These statements

Quote:
Elsewhere, the evacuation of goods from Mombasa Port is set to take a radical turn with experts warning of “certain death” for container freight stations (CFS) as the standard gauge railways nears completion.

The privately owned CFS facilities where bulk, liquid and containerised goods have been kept upon offloading to help ease congestion at the port may no longer be necessary at all.

According to the Kenya Railways Chief Executive Atanas Maina, the Sh327 billion SGR which will accommodate 1,620 boxed and flat wagons pulled by 43 DF8B freight locomotives will be able to haul 100 times more containers to Nairobi and beyond in a day

Mr Maina said that each cargo locomotive (DF8B) was capable of towing 216 Twenty-Foot Equivalent Units (TEUs) weighing an estimated 4,000 tonnes per trip and it is estimated that in top operation, the Mombasa Port will see 22 million tonnes cargo moved annually against the current 1.6 million.



Joho is finished.


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kaka2za
#478 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 10:42:00 AM
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murchr wrote:
Forget the talk by arm chair and keyboard analysts. Familiarize yourselves with the dutch project fyra and you'll understand why its important for the chinese to run the line.

These statements

Quote:
Elsewhere, the evacuation of goods from Mombasa Port is set to take a radical turn with experts warning of “certain death” for container freight stations (CFS) as the standard gauge railways nears completion.

The privately owned CFS facilities where bulk, liquid and containerised goods have been kept upon offloading to help ease congestion at the port may no longer be necessary at all.

According to the Kenya Railways Chief Executive Atanas Maina, the Sh327 billion SGR which will accommodate 1,620 boxed and flat wagons pulled by 43 DF8B freight locomotives will be able to haul 100 times more containers to Nairobi and beyond in a day

Mr Maina said that each cargo locomotive (DF8B) was capable of towing 216 Twenty-Foot Equivalent Units (TEUs) weighing an estimated 4,000 tonnes per trip and it is estimated that in top operation, the Mombasa Port will see 22 million tonnes cargo moved annually against the current 1.6 million.



Joho is finished.


Just another arm chair analysis!
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Angelica _ann
#479 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 11:41:45 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
Forget the talk by arm chair and keyboard analysts. Familiarize yourselves with the dutch project fyra and you'll understand why its important for the chinese to run the line.

These statements

Quote:
Elsewhere, the evacuation of goods from Mombasa Port is set to take a radical turn with experts warning of “certain death” for container freight stations (CFS) as the standard gauge railways nears completion.

The privately owned CFS facilities where bulk, liquid and containerised goods have been kept upon offloading to help ease congestion at the port may no longer be necessary at all.

According to the Kenya Railways Chief Executive Atanas Maina, the Sh327 billion SGR which will accommodate 1,620 boxed and flat wagons pulled by 43 DF8B freight locomotives will be able to haul 100 times more containers to Nairobi and beyond in a day

Mr Maina said that each cargo locomotive (DF8B) was capable of towing 216 Twenty-Foot Equivalent Units (TEUs) weighing an estimated 4,000 tonnes per trip and it is estimated that in top operation, the Mombasa Port will see 22 million tonnes cargo moved annually against the current 1.6 million.



Joho is finished.


Just another arm chair analysis!

Exactly, that 100 times planted up there is very loose without meaning.
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Lolest!
#480 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 1:13:11 PM
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Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
Forget the talk by arm chair and keyboard analysts. Familiarize yourselves with the dutch project fyra and you'll understand why its important for the chinese to run the line.

These statements

Quote:
Elsewhere, the evacuation of goods from Mombasa Port is set to take a radical turn with experts warning of “certain death” for container freight stations (CFS) as the standard gauge railways nears completion.

The privately owned CFS facilities where bulk, liquid and containerised goods have been kept upon offloading to help ease congestion at the port may no longer be necessary at all.

According to the Kenya Railways Chief Executive Atanas Maina, the Sh327 billion SGR which will accommodate 1,620 boxed and flat wagons pulled by 43 DF8B freight locomotives will be able to haul 100 times more containers to Nairobi and beyond in a day

Mr Maina said that each cargo locomotive (DF8B) was capable of towing 216 Twenty-Foot Equivalent Units (TEUs) weighing an estimated 4,000 tonnes per trip and it is estimated that in top operation, the Mombasa Port will see 22 million tonnes cargo moved annually against the current 1.6 million.



Joho is finished.


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