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muandiwambeu
#221 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2017 6:58:10 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
At the opening of the mall today by President Uhuru Kenyatta Chinese ambassador spoke about this been one of chinese biggest investments in Kenya.He spoke on behalf of AVIC.
Several managers of Old Mutual properties/South Africans were also present.
The total investment in Two Rivers mall is $270mn.

For this mall the chinese and Old Mutual properties really pressed hard on Centum as they were desperate for someone to bail them out to complete the mall.
That is why James Mworia body language wasn't inspiring.Shareholders of Centum biggest losers.
The shareholding of the mall is as follows;
Old Mutual Properties---50%
Centum---29%
AVIC---18.9%
ICDC---2.1%

Me too can't be inspired. How do you chinja a fully grown chicken only to end up with the cursed wing. Horrible.Sad
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kaimbaga2012
#222 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2017 7:17:16 AM
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What is the difference between Centum and ICDC
obiero
#223 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2017 8:12:26 AM
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kaimbaga2012 wrote:
What is the difference between Centum and ICDC

Centum is private while ICDC is government.. Both are related somewhat since CK used to be a driver at Kenatco Kencom which is where his dreams became valid

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kaimbaga2012
#224 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:15:47 PM
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obiero wrote:
kaimbaga2012 wrote:
What is the difference between Centum and ICDC

Centum is private while ICDC is government.. Both are related somewhat since CK used to be a driver at Kenatco Kencom which is where his dreams became valid


Okay Obiero. interesting. I usually see Centum trading at the NSE as ICDC, hence the confusion
sparkly
#225 Posted : Sunday, February 19, 2017 1:42:09 AM
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kaimbaga2012 wrote:
obiero wrote:
kaimbaga2012 wrote:
What is the difference between Centum and ICDC

Centum is private while ICDC is government.. Both are related somewhat since CK used to be a driver at Kenatco Kencom which is where his dreams became valid


Okay Obiero. interesting. I usually see Centum trading at the NSE as ICDC, hence the confusion


Difference between ICDC and Centum. ICDC is a shareholder in Centum
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actuarywahisa
#226 Posted : Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:55:11 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
At the opening of the mall today by President Uhuru Kenyatta Chinese ambassador spoke about this been one of chinese biggest investments in Kenya.He spoke on behalf of AVIC.
Several managers of Old Mutual properties/South Africans were also present.
The total investment in Two Rivers mall is $270mn.

For this mall the chinese and Old Mutual properties really pressed hard on Centum as they were desperate for someone to bail them out to complete the mall.
That is why James Mworia body language wasn't inspiring.Shareholders of Centum biggest losers.
The shareholding of the mall is as follows;
Old Mutual Properties---50%
Centum---29%
AVIC---18.9%
ICDC---2.1%

Me too can't be inspired. How do you chinja a fully grown chicken only to end up with the cursed wing. Horrible.Sad


I am happy with 29%! We can't talk about a possible over supply in mall space and still slate Centum for having limited exposure in that space, circumstances that led to that not withstanding.

Again, that's just the nature JVs. If you don't have the money to go it alone then you need to humble yourself and do what it takes to get the money to complete the project while protecting your interest. It's better to do a JV rather than have a stalled project. Sometimes heri nusu shari kuliko share kamili.

Additionally, Centum has been able to continue to diversify it's portfolio. No matter how promising something looks diversification wins in the end.

Also don't forget that Two-Rivers mall which sits on around 11 acres is just a small part of a bigger project. Centum is still the majority owner in the bigger project which sits on the balance from 102 acres.

Even for the remainder of the project, if they do JVs, the better!
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Realtreaty
#227 Posted : Sunday, February 19, 2017 1:50:15 PM
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Its open, my Maths will come by may when they do their FY2016-7 results. Can I sell before that? No i will even try to buy more as there is possibility of the price rising from now.
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Cornelius Vanderbilt
#228 Posted : Sunday, February 19, 2017 4:10:45 PM
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glad to see chris kirubi's loot doing some impressive work #two_rivers_mall
Spikes
#229 Posted : Sunday, February 19, 2017 4:15:02 PM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
glad to see chris kirubi's loot doing some impressive work #two_rivers_mall

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Ericsson
#230 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:21:39 PM
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http://www.businessdaily...8896-11lcu9a/index.html

Debt burden on this company is worrying now that South Africans are in control of Two Rivers Mall
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