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SGR Progress thus far
aemathenge
#441 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:39:38 AM
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hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
[quote=aemathenge]Even the Machizi Express Tenda was yours?

Mbrasary, don't you have connections.


If you want higher speeds no one has stopped you from using KQ.
Indeed why don't we eat cake

Unfortunately, some of us do not have tendas nor are we on Thirikali payrolls.

Tawfiq Express works for me just fine.


Shida is that people never see anything good. For ages people were complaining that we have never build even a single inch of rail since mzungu left. And that we needed an efficient rail transport to move goods inland from mombasa. Then Ohuru build SGR in record time. And now people are still complaining - sijui its expensive, sijui its not 2 way, sijui they dont like shape of engine, sijui it should have been electric, sijui it will disturb hyenas and other beasts at Tsavo and other parks, sijui the train should have done 200km/h and not 120km/h, sijui it spoilt the landscape view as you travel to coast by road etc etc. What do people want???????

Mount Kenya is on fire.

Kenya Forest Service (KFS) does not have aircraft to assess the situation.

Money has gone to hairstylists and to pay for fuel for Kenia Air force One to land on as many airports as possible.

Talk to Itumbi and get that tenda too.

Link:


If you went to school like I did, you'd know that forest fires play an important ecological role in forest ecosystems. They are a part of the forest ecosystem dynamics. You could start by reading the link below to educate yourself on some of these matters.

http://greentumble.com/t...rtance-of-forest-fires/[/quote]You got the tenda.

Well done. Two plots at Gṹkuhî perhaps?
Bigchick
#442 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:51:45 AM
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Swenani wrote:
maka wrote:
josimar wrote:
I saw the SGR site in Rangau area of Ongata Rongai , who has an idea whether there will be an SGR site in Ongata Rongai or Ngong ?


Rongai i doubt...


There is!


Yes there is and itakuwa hapo Tuala past Kitengela Glass.

If the SGR passes through ones parcel and it chews over half of it then SGR takes over the whole parcel @10M per acre.
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Bigchick
#443 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:57:47 AM
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hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Even the Machizi Express Tenda was yours?

Mbrasary, don't you have connections.


If you want higher speeds no one has stopped you from using KQ.
Indeed why don't we eat cake

Unfortunately, some of us do not have tendas nor are we on Thirikali payrolls.

Tawfiq Express works for me just fine.


Shida is that people never see anything good. For ages people were complaining that we have never build even a single inch of rail since mzungu left. And that we needed an efficient rail transport to move goods inland from mombasa. Then Ohuru build SGR in record time. And now people are still complaining - sijui its expensive, sijui its not 2 way, sijui they dont like shape of engine, sijui it should have been electric, sijui it will disturb hyenas and other beasts at Tsavo and other parks, sijui the train should have done 200km/h and not 120km/h, sijui it spoilt the landscape view as you travel to coast by road etc etc. What do people want???????

Mount Kenya is on fire.

Kenya Forest Service (KFS) does not have aircraft to assess the situation.

Money has gone to hairstylists and to pay for fuel for Kenia Air force One to land on as many airports as possible.

Talk to Itumbi and get that tenda too.

Link:


If you went to school like I did, you'd know that forest fires play an important ecological role in forest ecosystems. They are a part of the forest ecosystem dynamics. You could start by reading the link below to educate yourself on some of these matters.

http://greentumble.com/t...rtance-of-forest-fires/





@Hardwood,I like your comments on most issues.Very informative and supported by facts.You remind me of a man who used to be called @simonkabz but he disappeared from this republik.


Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
hardwood
#444 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:19:43 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Even the Machizi Express Tenda was yours?

Mbrasary, don't you have connections.


If you want higher speeds no one has stopped you from using KQ.
Indeed why don't we eat cake

Unfortunately, some of us do not have tendas nor are we on Thirikali payrolls.

Tawfiq Express works for me just fine.


Shida is that people never see anything good. For ages people were complaining that we have never build even a single inch of rail since mzungu left. And that we needed an efficient rail transport to move goods inland from mombasa. Then Ohuru build SGR in record time. And now people are still complaining - sijui its expensive, sijui its not 2 way, sijui they dont like shape of engine, sijui it should have been electric, sijui it will disturb hyenas and other beasts at Tsavo and other parks, sijui the train should have done 200km/h and not 120km/h, sijui it spoilt the landscape view as you travel to coast by road etc etc. What do people want???????

Mount Kenya is on fire.

Kenya Forest Service (KFS) does not have aircraft to assess the situation.

Money has gone to hairstylists and to pay for fuel for Kenia Air force One to land on as many airports as possible.

Talk to Itumbi and get that tenda too.

Link:


If you went to school like I did, you'd know that forest fires play an important ecological role in forest ecosystems. They are a part of the forest ecosystem dynamics. You could start by reading the link below to educate yourself on some of these matters.

http://greentumble.com/t...rtance-of-forest-fires/





@Hardwood,I like your comments on most issues.Very informative and supported by facts.You remind me of a man who used to be called @simonkabz but he disappeared from this republik.




I am very humbled by your kind remarks. You can never be "shaken" when you have "the facts". Sad that many rely on rumours in these discussions instead of seeking facts first before they can comment. Some are driven by malice and hate like those ones blaming kabura for the forest fires, while they should have known that KFS and NYS are independent gov't entities with different mandates and have different budgets to execute those mandates.
aemathenge
#445 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:25:26 PM
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hardwood wrote:
KFS and NYS are independent gov't entities with different mandates and have different budgets to execute those mandates.

Indeed.
aemathenge
#446 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:45:17 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
@Hardwood,I like your comments on most issues.Very informative and supported by facts.You remind me of a man who used to be called @simonkabz but he disappeared from this republik.

Oh please @BigChick, can I have a hug and a kiss too?

I will be a nice boy and post informative comments about issues supported by facts.

Like the one herein below about the Machizi Express:

Quote:
Kenya’s new Chinese-built railway rising as tourist attractions

Huge concrete pillars, the seemingly unending tracks and nicely-built stations of a Chinese-built railway are becoming new tourist attractions in Kenya, known for its sandy beaches and wildlife parks.

“I was going for holiday in Mombasa last December and I could not help but stop in Emali to see the progress of the work.

I liked the way the pillars stood in water at the Ndumoto bridge undisturbed with a crane doing some work,” said Benson Ndwiga, a Kenyan accountant.

At the Athi River Super Bridge, dozens of visitors were trying to catch a glimpse of the pillars and railroad.

“We are lucky that we will be seeing the train pass here,” said Hillary Machera, a resident of Kitengela on the outskirts of Nairobi.

“When the bridge was being erected sometime in October last year, I spend time there capturing how the cranes were working, carrying the huge slabs and fitting them on the pillars. It was something out of this world,” Machera told Xinhua.


Link:
kivairu
#447 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:45:21 PM
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[quote=Angelica _ann]Chinese loans for Mombasa to Malaba railway hit Sh1 trillion

Total Chinese loans to Kenya for the construction of the Mombasa to Malaba standard gauge railway will hit the Sh1 trillion mark after Exim Bank of China expressed interest in funding the third phase of the project.

The lender will pump in Sh490 billion to build the railway between Kisumu and Malaba to link Kenya and Uganda, bringing the total cost to Sh1.02 trillion.

This comes at a time when Kenya’s annual debt repayment is set to hit Sh618.5 billion next year, which will see the Treasury spend an estimated Sh40 out of every Sh100 collected from taxpayers on servicing the ballooning loans.

The bill represents a 38.5 per cent jump from Sh446.4 billion spent on public debt this year, compared to projected 12 per cent growth in tax collection; a key indicator of the country’s ability to repay.

The bank is already financing the first leg of the railway from Mombasa to Nairobi at a cost of Sh380 billion with completed work standing at over 90 per cent currently.

The second phase between Nairobi and Naivasha, a stretch of 120 kilometres, will cost Sh150 billion. The higher cost between Nairobi and Naivasha has been attributed to harsh terrain.

As a result, the cost of tunnels will take up 23 per cent of the total cost estimated at Sh18.2 billion. The tunnels will cut through Rift Valley escarpments, making design work more expensive.

Exim Bank will also fund construction of a modern Sh14 billion port on the shores of Lake Victoria in Kisumu as Kenya targets a bigger maritime trade stake with its land locked neighbours.


c&p
Four years ago, the Jubilee administration mesmerised Kenyans with fantastic images of mega-infrastructure, bullet trains and space age airports, iconic stadiums, bewildering interchanges and blooming deserts.

All these were a pretext for an unprecedented borrowing spree, and plunder, plunder that beggars belief.

They borrowed US$4 billion (Sh415 billion) to build a 500km single track railway with a maximum diesel-powered train speed of 120kph and 80kph for passenger and cargo trains, respectively.

For the same amount of money, Morocco has just completed Africa’s first high-speed rail, a 350 dual track railway (700km of rail) with a maximum speed of 320kph.

Upgrading the existing railway line would have achieved the same performance as the new Standard Gauge Railway (SGR)for a quarter of the cost.

The balance would have financed the new Lamu Port, a railway, a highway, and have enough left for one or two small projects.

Jubilee’s justification for the SGR was to decongest the Mombasa-Malaba highway.

Yet recently, the same administration has decided that it will transport crude oil from Turkana to Mombasa by road.

With two railways running parallel to each other, Jubilee is going to put more trucks on the road.


http://www.businessdaily...73152-rou2jn/index.html[/quote]

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hardwood
#448 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 2:41:16 PM
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Hehe. So now they are saying that we should have upgraded the old railway at 1/4 of the cost of SGR? When your simba is falling apart with the roof leaking and timber weakened by termites and walls collapsing, the logical thing is to build a new simba, not to renovate the old simba.
If you are a dairy farmer and want an efficient way to transport your milk and feeds, you do not visit the junk yard and panel beat those old Peugeot 504 jalopy pickups lying there so as to cut costs, rather you talk to your "Exim" bank aka ekwete and they help you buy a new Toyota hilux pickup. It is costly yes but will serve you for many many yrs and grow your business. This is the same case with lunatic express vs SGR. We should be looking at the bigger picture and that is SGR, though expensive will be more efficient and will serve us for the next 200yrs +. #Vision2217. Good things don't come cheap.
aemathenge
#449 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:15:47 PM
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Jubilee Screwed The Rift Valley Railways Investors

Sometimes back, RVR entered into an agreement through a Revised Deed of Amendment with the Kenian Government and M7.

This agreement covered planning, construction and operation of the Machizi Express and included offering RVR the opportunity to operate rolling stock on the Machizi Express line.

There was a mutually negotiated agreement for compensating RVR due to loss of business that would go to the Machizi Express.

This has not been mutually concluded six months or so to commencement of operations.

It turns out that RVR will not operate the Machizi Express but a Chinese firm, China Communications Construction Company is being considered.

This means Wanjiku may end up paying RVR for business lost to the Machizi Express as per the agreement The Government.

Minister Macharia justifies picking CCCC over RVR to ensure Accountability.

Link:
aemathenge
#450 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:55:15 PM
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hardwood wrote:
If you went to school like I did ...

Well, in that case, you will give some serious thought to what Sidney Shema Kamanzi, Kenya-based conservation biologist and wildlife photographer, has to say.

He is studying Wildlife Management and Conservation at the University of Nairobi.

Link:

Extracts:

Quote:
One Reason to Route SGR Phase 2 Away from Nairobi National Park that Nobody is Talking About

As if there were not already more than enough reasons for the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) Phase 2 NOT to be routed through the middle of Nairobi National Park, I am going to give you one more reason that you probably never thought about or expected.

There is one threat the SGR pauses (poses?) to Nairobi National Park that virtually nobody is talking about.

It is a silent killer that is slowly taking over the park with the help of major infrastructure developments like the KETRACO power lines, the Southern Bypass and now the Standard Gauge Railway.

You’ve probably seen it before.

Maybe you even see it daily.

Yet you would never think of it as a danger of any kind.

But looks can be deceiving.

The threat I am talking about is a plant. Believe it or not.

It’s called Parthenium hysterophorus, also known as the ‘famine weed’.

Passing the SGR Phase 2 directly through the middle of park would surely allow this plant to colonize the park’s habitats as all the construction vehicles move in and out bringing new seeds in on a daily basis.

All the digging and construction activity would provide sufficient amounts of disturbed ground for the plant to establish itself and spread from there.

Sitting back and allowing poorly planned development projects, greed, corruption and a toxic dull-looking plant to destroy East Africa’s oldest national park and the only national park within a capital city in the world would be a total shame and huge loss to the people of Kenya!

It would destroy Kenya’s position as a global leader in wildlife conservation.


Oh, and by the way, I am a Matiang'i (Bless his Soul) D Minus high school drop out.

So there.
aemathenge
#451 Posted : Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:37:40 PM
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hardwood wrote:
If you are a dairy farmer and want an efficient way to transport your milk and feeds, you do not visit the junk yard and panel beat those old Peugeot 504 jalopy pickups lying there so as to cut costs

Wait until Guka wa vijṻti na Mṻgate wa Kumanyoko sees this.
Cornelius Vanderbilt
#452 Posted : Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:43:46 PM
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Nice PR effort by the government. hii reli itatembea kwa hewa ama ? why cann't they wait for the sgr to be completed then import the locomotive with an even greater fanfair ?
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#453 Posted : Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:44:43 PM
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All said and done, I hope this SGR project turns out to be as successful as the Thika road and bypass projects.
Our complains about the SGR project mirror those shared some years back about the construction of Thika road but when it was complete and in use, Kibaki turned from a corrupt crook to a hero. Ndii as usual led the complains informing us how a railway from Thika at a quarter of the price would have served even better. Anyway, I will hope for the best since this project cannot be reversed. Again, I hope you managed to acquire some speculation land around the stations cheaply too.

BBI will solve it
:)
Impunity
#454 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 1:40:39 PM
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High-speed trains in central China’s Wuhan get ready for the “world’s biggest human migration”, China's Spring Festival travel rush

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Impunity
#455 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:03:50 AM
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The track was elevated to prevent wild animals from trespassing on the tracks...Elephants are however domestic animals.
Sad Sad Sad


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Anti_Burglar
#456 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:18:30 AM
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Impunity wrote:
The track was elevated to prevent wild animals from trespassing on the tracks...Elephants are however domestic animals.
Sad Sad Sad




Things became elephant kitabo saana.
thuks
#457 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:57:39 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
Impunity wrote:
The track was elevated to prevent wild animals from trespassing on the tracks...Elephants are however domestic animals.
Sad Sad Sad




Things became elephant kitabo saana.

Tender ya electric fence nayo!
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aemathenge
#458 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:15:50 AM
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thuks wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Impunity wrote:
The track was elevated to prevent wild animals from trespassing on the tracks...Elephants are however domestic animals.
Sad Sad Sad




Things became elephant kitabo saana.

Tender ya electric fence nayo!

Stop reading my mind to steal my points.
Impunity
#459 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:44:54 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
thuks wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Impunity wrote:
The track was elevated to prevent wild animals from trespassing on the tracks...Elephants are however domestic animals.
Sad Sad Sad




Things became elephant kitabo saana.

Tender ya electric fence nayo!

Stop reading my mind to steal my points.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Tender tender....

I asked in this thread months ago why the track was elevated all the way from Mombasa to Nairobi but neanderthals could here non of it.
Chief neanderthal aka @Njunge and her deputy @washiku said it was elevated to enable the train manage the gradient smoothly...wah!

I said it it was elevated to prevent wild animals then it was a failure, I even put pictures of some Zebras crossing the completed sections of the line.

To me the line should have been fenced off with concrete barrier if at all they wanted to prevent wild animals and walevi.
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#460 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:41:08 PM
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@Impunity,
You actually insinuated the elevation was meant to deter animals, the opposite is what i said. Bridges are the animal lee-ways you idiot (Re-read my posts and stop getting an erection over a curious elephant and it's calf)
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