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AlphDoti wrote:AlphDoti wrote:AlphDoti wrote:nakujua wrote:masukuma wrote:nakujua wrote:muganda wrote:Uncomfortable truth...
who created the environment that caused that tragic event to occur. ehe... who did? Abraham when he tafutad mpango wa kando @nakujua your own Bible calls her wife to Abraham. You call her mistress. What disbelieve in your Bible. What disbelieve and slander on the greatest friend of God! " Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her slave-girl, and gave her to her husband Abram as his wife." Genesis 16: 3 And what does your Bible says of the boy born from Hagar? God calls him "a son" " And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. Gen. 16:15" Abraham's wife ( not mpango wa kando) HAGAR received the following favor from God: " And also of the son of the bonds woman, I will make a nation also, because he {is} thy seed. Gen. 21:13" But you deny this. Which means you deny your bible, hence you deny God. NOTE: I'M NOT JUSTIFYING ANY WAR BETWEEN ANYBODY. AM JUST CLARIFYING THE MPANGO WA KANDO IGNORANCE BY THOSE WHO CLAIM TO FOLLOW THE BIBLE, BUT DON'T, COZ YHEY DON'T REALLY BELIEVE IN IT! And Isaac was born from Sarah 13 years later, I can show you evidence in the Bible. Before this, Ishmael was the only son of Abraham born of Hagar his wife (not mpango wa kando). " God decided to test the faith of Abraham, He said;
And He said, Take now thy son, thine only {son} _________, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. Gen. 22:2" Abraham passes the test, and what does the Bible says next? " And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only {son} from me. Gen. 22:12
And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only {son}, Gen. 22:16"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:AlphDoti wrote:AlphDoti wrote:AlphDoti wrote:nakujua wrote:masukuma wrote:nakujua wrote:muganda wrote:Uncomfortable truth...
who created the environment that caused that tragic event to occur. ehe... who did? Abraham when he tafutad mpango wa kando @nakujua your own Bible calls her wife to Abraham. You call her mistress. What disbelieve in your Bible. What disbelieve and slander on the greatest friend of God! " Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her slave-girl, and gave her to her husband Abram as his wife." Genesis 16: 3 And what does your Bible says of the boy born from Hagar? God calls him "a son" " And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. Gen. 16:15" Abraham's wife ( not mpango wa kando) HAGAR received the following favor from God: " And also of the son of the bonds woman, I will make a nation also, because he {is} thy seed. Gen. 21:13" But you deny this. Which means you deny your bible, hence you deny God. NOTE: I'M NOT JUSTIFYING ANY WAR BETWEEN ANYBODY. AM JUST CLARIFYING THE MPANGO WA KANDO IGNORANCE BY THOSE WHO CLAIM TO FOLLOW THE BIBLE, BUT DON'T, COZ YHEY DON'T REALLY BELIEVE IN IT! And Isaac was born from Sarah 13 years later, I can show you evidence in the Bible. Before this, Ishmael was the only son of Abraham born of Hagar his wife (not mpango wa kando). " God decided to test the faith of Abraham, He said;
And He said, Take now thy son, thine only {son} _________, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. Gen. 22:2" Abraham passes the test, and what does the Bible says next? " And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only {son} from me. Gen. 22:12
And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only {son}, Gen. 22:16" Later on, 13 years later, Isaac was born from Sarah, when Abraham was 100 years old (for doubting Thomases Gen 21:5). And Abraham's wife SARAH received the following favor, just like Hagar above: " And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be {a mother} of nations; kings of people shall be of her. Gen. 17:16" NOTE: AM NIT TRYING TO SAY WHO'S BETTER AND WHO'S NOT BETTER. AM JUST EDUCATING THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW THIS. AM EDUCATING HHOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LIED TO BY CHURCH THAT ISAAC WAS THE FIRST BORN.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:muganda wrote:Uncomfortable truth...
I'll tell you today that my own father lost his eye from this blast. Cousin sister lost her husband. Many of my kind were injured. The blast affected me directly and indirectly... It's truest bitter truth to learn several years later that this group was created by the US and they lied to the whole world about it! Please watch again @muganda before asking the who brought help, ask who brought the problem?
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What the heck are people saying! Trying to justify the terrorist attack on us by some pea brains! Of their very own volitions, some mohamedans massacred people in Nairobi. Now their sympathisers want to blame that crime on someone else!  Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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And why give credence to "western media" by agreeing to be interviewed by them!Quote:Will Hamas recognize Israel as a Jewish state?
Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal skirted a question of whether his group would ever recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, saying only that Palestinians would make that decision once they had a state of their own with no Israeli presence.
"When we have a Palestinian state then the Palestinian state will decide on its policies. You cannot actually ask me about the future," Meshaal said through a translator in an exclusive interview with "CBS This Morning" co-host Charlie Rose, which aired on "Face the Nation" Sunday and will appear in full on PBS. Additional excerpts will air on "CBS This Morning" Monday.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@muganda before asking the who brought help, ask who brought the problem? What the heck are people saying! Trying to justify the terrorist attack on us by some pea brains! Of their very own volitions, some mohamedans massacred people in Nairobi. Now their sympathisers want to blame that crime on someone else! 'The people we were fighting today, we funded 20 years ago...' Hilary Clinton
'The plan was good. Train Somali youths to create a buffer zone between Kenya and Somalia... These people are today roaming and killing people in parts of Kenya.' Major Bashir AbdulaiahAll soldiers get their training from somewhere; just as they receive arms from place of manufacture. The world is linked. Even all human beings and angels were created - so who do we blame for their evil acts, Allah? It is fundamentally dishonest to claim USA murdered their citizens on Sep 11, or murdered Kenyan citizens in the first bomb blast; or to claim KDF butchered innocent citizens in Lamu; or blame Kalashnikova for all murders committed in the world by AK47s. Causality probably, not responsibility! @Nandwa is on the side of truth, whomever wields freedom bears responsibility.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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muganda wrote:Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@muganda before asking the who brought help, ask who brought the problem? What the heck are people saying! Trying to justify the terrorist attack on us by some pea brains! Of their very own volitions, some mohamedans massacred people in Nairobi. Now their sympathisers want to blame that crime on someone else! 'The people we were fighting today, we funded 20 years ago...' Hilary Clinton
'The plan was good. Train Somali youths to create a buffer zone between Kenya and Somalia... These people are today roaming and killing people in parts of Kenya.' Major Bashir AbdulaiahAll soldiers get their training from somewhere; just as they receive arms from place of manufacture. The world is linked. Even all human beings and angels were created - so who do we blame for their evil acts, Allah? It is fundamentally dishonest to claim USA murdered their citizens on Sep 11, or murdered Kenyan citizens in the first bomb blast; or to claim KDF butchered innocent citizens in Lamu; or blame Kalashnikova for all murders committed in the world by AK47s. Causality probably, not responsibility! @Nandwa is on the side of truth, whomever wields freedom bears responsibility. 1. US created al-Qaeda 2. US trained and armed al-Qaeda 3. US used them to fight USSR 4. US tried to clean-up the mess (for those who know what happened in Ouko case and all those involved were all killed to cover up evidence) 5. Al-qaeda with all the intellgence and knwldge of how US operates became difficult to track down 6. US invented new meaning of terrorism and named their own created group terror group 7. It became a class between US and Al-Qaeda, each hunting down the other 8. Al-qaeda targeted US embassies, remember Nairobi and Tz bombing 9. Kenyans were caught in the process. Even my own family was affected, check one thread above. So x caused y, to carried out z. @nandwa and @muganda how then do you exempt x from responsibility? Do you think the arms given to them by US was aid to be given to starving children? Don't you know weapons are for killing? Do you what al-qaeda did in the middle-East while working for US was drinking porridge with the guns? Don't you know the weapons were being used to kill people? The same way they are now supplying weapons to Israel?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Al Jazeera: What can we expect from Hamas in the next few days with regard to a possible ceasefire or truce?
Hamdan: If there is a ceasefire, which gives the Palestinian people their demands, we will accept that. If there is not, we are ready to defend our people until we achieve what we are asking for."
One has got to ask.. HOW are THEY defending their people?? All we are seeing is the civilian death toll going up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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AlphDoti wrote:1. US created al-Qaeda
2. US trained and armed al-Qaeda
3. US used them to fight USSR
4. US tried to clean-up the mess (for those who know what happened in Ouko case and all those involved were all killed to cover up evidence)
5. Al-qaeda with all the intellgence and knwldge of how US operates became difficult to track down
6. US invented new meaning of terrorism and named their own created group terror group
7. It became a class between US and Al-Qaeda, each hunting down the other
8. Al-qaeda targeted US embassies, remember Nairobi and Tz bombing
9. Kenyans were caught in the process. Even my own family was affected, check one thread above.
So x caused y, to carried out z.
@nandwa and @muganda how then do you exempt x from responsibility?
Do you think the arms given to them by US was aid to be given to starving children?
Don't you know weapons are for killing?
Do you what al-qaeda did in the middle-East while working for US was drinking porridge with the guns?
Don't you know the weapons were being used to kill people?
The same way they are now supplying weapons to Israel?
@AlphDoti no issue if in good faith, we applied the same uniform standard... • Muhammad created Islam, the religion • Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule • History of caliphates shows Muhammad deliberately used Islam as a tool for violent conquests and spread of political capital • In all recent slaughter of innocent in Kenya for political reasons, aggressors are Muslim and often target other faiths So I concede, if USA is responsible for AlQaeda, then Muhammad would be the father of modern terrorism. Do you think a life lived in violence would yield peace just by naming it Islam? Would Kenya have had the embassy bombings or other terrorist attacks if Islam had not existed?
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