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ecstacy
#221 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:26:33 PM
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McReggae wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
washiku wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is there any Wazuan who supports these "Dialogue"/"I'll shave you otherwise" rallies?



@McReggae has been quite about them. Now that we are reading that CORD is divided in this issue, I wonder anaegemea upande upi. @McReggae, uko pande gani?smile smile


I realized there was no need of the bile we were getting to here in wazua so I let you guys have fun!!!!


So what is your stand?smile


Hahahaha you wanna drag me in, I'm with 99% of CORD.


Hapa ndio ex-PM now self declared Barber ametufikicha - http://www.the-star.co.k...ha-ahead-saba-saba-rally
masukuma
#222 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:29:18 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Quote:
In December, Yemen enforced a temporary ban on motorbikes in the capital to try to prevent attacks as politicians engaged in a national dialogue.


http://www.capitalfm.co....74-men-in-6-months-afp/

Was there juzi... it's so messed up people were queuing the whole day and night for fuel and the country exports crude! Pipelines have been bombed! it's just total balaa!!

hata sisi tunataka ARAP SPRING!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
muganda
#223 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:38:13 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Is there any Wazuan who supports these "Dialogue"/"I'll shave you otherwise" rallies?

@ecstacy what is the issue with a rally?
It can't bring insecurity if we are secure
It doesn't change elected president or government in power
Wasn't one held #Babawhileyouwereaway and brought no change to our national future?

Jubilee as a party can respond to calls for dialogue with political theatrics. But why does the government give them so much prominence?


ecstacy
#224 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:47:02 PM
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muganda wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is there any Wazuan who supports these "Dialogue"/"I'll shave you otherwise" rallies?

@ecstacy what is the issue with a rally?
It can't bring insecurity if we are secure
It doesn't change elected president or government in power
Wasn't one held #Babawhileyouwereaway and brought no change to our national future?

Jubilee as a party can involve themselves with political theatrics. But why does the government give them so much prominence?



There is no problem with generally having a rally, you've been having them all year haven't you.

The return of the ex-PM from his 3 month stay from Boston and immediate threats to government, in God Knows what capacity, that they dialogue with him outside the constitutional OR ELSE he will shave the President without water come Saba Saba - swahili - is a pure plain call to anarchy.

He has been told, Yes, let us dialogue with you using the constitutional framework you "fought for". He has refused. The constitution he fought for is suddenly bad. The referee IEBC is bad. The Judiciary is bad. The military - KDF - rigged him out of power. It is bad. The NIS is bad. Every institution is bad. He is good. Him and his MiB blokes. In what capacity does he give a sitting Head Of State demands and ultimatums? His position is simply indefensible and untenable.

You only need to have listened to his henchman Otieno Kajwang on the morning Citizen show today to know these coded messages. He clearly stated they DO NOT need the constitutional framework to effect the change Raila and his brigade are seeking.

Raila in a recent interview has said he "doesn't know what will happen" come Saba Saba and in Monday's printed article of his interview with foreign media is saying "he is willing to pay the price".

Price for what if it is peaceful?

Let the government do it's job and stop calling that duty politics. You blamed President Kibaki for letting the country spiral out of control leading to violence in 2007/8.

Lest he forgets, he is NOT a co-Principal and this is not a coalition government.

Poleni, no Round 2 here. He breaks the law, him and his accomplices will be dealt with accordingly. No one is above the law.
muganda
#225 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:51:56 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
muganda wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is there any Wazuan who supports these "Dialogue"/"I'll shave you otherwise" rallies?

@ecstacy what is the issue with a rally?
It can't bring insecurity if we are secure
It doesn't change elected president or government in power
Wasn't one held #Babawhileyouwereaway and brought no change to our national future?

Jubilee as a party can involve themselves with political theatrics. But why does the government give them so much prominence?



There is no problem with generally having a rally, you've been having them all year haven't you.

The return of the ex-PM from his 3 month stay from Boston and immediate threats to government, in God Knows what capacity, that they dialogue with him outside the constitutional OR ELSE he will shave the President without water come Saba Saba - swahili - is a pure plain call to anarchy.

You only need to have listened to his henchman Otieno Kajwang on the morning Citizen show today to know these coded messages. He clearly stated they DO NOT need the constitutional framework to effect the change Raila and his brigade are seeking.

Raila in a recent interview has said he "doesn't know what will happen" come Saba Saba and in Monday's printed article of his interview with foreign media is saying "he is willing to pay the price".

Price for what if it is peaceful?

Let the government do it's job and stop calling that duty politics. You blamed President Kibaki for letting the country spiral out of control leading to violence in 2007/8. Poleni, no Round 2 here. He breaks the law, him and his accomplices will be dealt with accordingly. No one is above the law.


Laughing out loudly Hehehe @ecstacy, actually both CORD and Jubilee have had rallies all year. I have never attended one.

Leadership: What would Kibaki have done?
Njung'e
#226 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:56:58 PM
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Fleeing families!!....Now,that is sad!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
limanika
#227 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:17:33 PM
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Posts: 2,032
ecstacy wrote:
muganda wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is there any Wazuan who supports these "Dialogue"/"I'll shave you otherwise" rallies?

@ecstacy what is the issue with a rally?
It can't bring insecurity if we are secure
It doesn't change elected president or government in power
Wasn't one held #Babawhileyouwereaway and brought no change to our national future?

Jubilee as a party can involve themselves with political theatrics. But why does the government give them so much prominence?



There is no problem with generally having a rally, you've been having them all year haven't you.

The return of the ex-PM from his 3 month stay from Boston and immediate threats to government, in God Knows what capacity, that they dialogue with him outside the constitutional OR ELSE he will shave the President without water come Saba Saba - swahili - is a pure plain call to anarchy.

He has been told, Yes, let us dialogue with you using the constitutional framework you "fought for". He has refused. The constitution he fought for is suddenly bad. The referee IEBC is bad. The Judiciary is bad. The military - KDF - rigged him out of power. It is bad. The NIS is bad. Every institution is bad. He is good. Him and his MiB blokes. In what capacity does he give a sitting Head Of State demands and ultimatums? His position is simply indefensible and untenable.

You only need to have listened to his henchman Otieno Kajwang on the morning Citizen show today to know these coded messages. He clearly stated they DO NOT need the constitutional framework to effect the change Raila and his brigade are seeking.

Raila in a recent interview has said he "doesn't know what will happen" come Saba Saba and in Monday's printed article of his interview with foreign media is saying "he is willing to pay the price".

Price for what if it is peaceful?

Let the government do it's job and stop calling that duty politics. You blamed President Kibaki for letting the country spiral out of control leading to violence in 2007/8.

Lest he forgets, he is NOT a co-Principal and this is not a coalition government.

Poleni, no Round 2 here. He breaks the law, him and his accomplices will be dealt with accordingly. No one is above the law.

That’s a white lie from aliar. The presentations by 'Wanjiku' on 7/7 will be stage-managed to achieve pre-determined objectives. Anyone who can guess what 'Wanjiku' has been or is being coached to say?
tycho
#228 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:40:18 PM
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I don't doubt that our country needs dialogue, but that calls for it should involve fear and discrimination of any sort will destroy all hope.

If Cord can't promote dialogue without developing enmity then it should keep off politics. For they won't be able to create any solutions.
washiku
#229 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:18:03 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
washiku wrote:
So Jubilee had already booked Uhuru park for that day? SMH.

now they can dialogue on whom to use uhuru park


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
limanika
#230 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:36:31 PM
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What to expect on 7/7? Aliar is on record saying that when he came from US, his supporters in UHUPARK - after chanting …MUST GO! …MUST GO! (I saw him fanning them to shout) asked him – now baba, what do we do next? In other words, he meant that he literally pleaded them not to go to STORM house on the hill!! So, on 7/7, I expect two extremes, – scenario 1 – Implementation of the unfinished business reported above. Scenario 2 – Wanjiku to form constituent assembly for dialogue and invite cord, jubilee, civil society and religious organization to participate, in similar form as Ufungamano initiative. On 7/7, expect any of the above or something in between. None is good for Kenya going forward, aliar might remain a constant headache till 2017
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