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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
washiku
#2261 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 9:25:25 PM
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masukuma
#2262 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:29:26 PM
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Location: Nairobi
safariant wrote:
masukuma wrote:
safariant wrote:
Uhuruto has been played.

IEBC chairman ex-ODM,

Court ruling gives him leeway to kick out officials 'responsible' for the lost election mess,

Potential change of ballot printing company may be well calculated to have extra ballot papers.

Coming election will only have presidential votes, if ballot stuffing happens there is no other votes totals to compare with.

Jubilee surport of the current IEBC commission will mean if they lose complaints about rigging will not be taken seriously.

Fighting with Supreme Court means they have no chance of winning a petition against the 4 wakoras.


you think Kenyan's are that organized? mnacheza na elections... GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE LEGAL THING - RIGHT TAKES EFFORT!! GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE ILLEGAL THING - RIGHT je?


But they just did the illegal thing right, to the extent the election was nullified.

It's probably easier to do wrong than right

It's easy to do "wrong" but "wrong" is not a monolithic thing as compared to "right". So the "wrong" that would profit a guy would not necessarily be the "wrong" that would be committed by a wrong doer! Only a cerain type of "wrong" would advantage a candidate and making this "wrong" the standard "wrong" to be committed by everyone takes as much effort as teaching the "right" if not a bit more.
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murchr
#2263 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:49:26 AM
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Someone sent me this video and claimed this was Nyali Mombasa. If this happened, as in ROs/agents etc slept through, could this be the reason fake forms got sneaked into the mix?

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Shak
#2264 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:37:02 AM
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Joined: 2/22/2009
Posts: 2,449
Location: Africa
murchr wrote:
Someone sent me this video and claimed this was Nyali Mombasa. If this happened, as in ROs/agents etc slept through, could this be the reason fake forms got sneaked into the mix?


This is serious. We really need to consider separating presidential elections from those of other seats
newfarer
#2265 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:14:59 AM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
masukuma wrote:
safariant wrote:
masukuma wrote:
safariant wrote:
Uhuruto has been played.

IEBC chairman ex-ODM,

Court ruling gives him leeway to kick out officials 'responsible' for the lost election mess,

Potential change of ballot printing company may be well calculated to have extra ballot papers.

Coming election will only have presidential votes, if ballot stuffing happens there is no other votes totals to compare with.

Jubilee surport of the current IEBC commission will mean if they lose complaints about rigging will not be taken seriously.

Fighting with Supreme Court means they have no chance of winning a petition against the 4 wakoras.


you think Kenyan's are that organized? mnacheza na elections... GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE LEGAL THING - RIGHT TAKES EFFORT!! GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE ILLEGAL THING - RIGHT je?


But they just did the illegal thing right, to the extent the election was nullified.

It's probably easier to do wrong than right

It's easy to do "wrong" but "wrong" is not a monolithic thing as compared to "right". So the "wrong" that would profit a guy would not necessarily be the "wrong" that would be committed by a wrong doer! Only a cerain type of "wrong" would advantage a candidate and making this "wrong" the standard "wrong" to be committed by everyone takes as much effort as teaching the "right" if not a bit more.


this sounds tychoish.can you break it for the wanjikus
punda amecheka
safariant
#2266 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 11:53:26 AM
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Shak wrote:
murchr wrote:
Someone sent me this video and claimed this was Nyali Mombasa. If this happened, as in ROs/agents etc slept through, could this be the reason fake forms got sneaked into the mix?


This is serious. We really need to consider separating presidential elections from those of other seats

That will be a mistake. At least now you can compare total votes for presidential vs other positions.
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AlphDoti
#2267 Posted : Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:26:17 PM
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Please listen to the end...

freiks
#2268 Posted : Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:41:26 PM
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Joined: 6/8/2010
Posts: 1,734
AlphDoti wrote:
Please listen to the end...



Sad but we have not heard this story from any other corner, maybe looking for sympathy
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Bigchick
#2269 Posted : Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:01:02 PM
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Joined: 2/8/2013
Posts: 4,068
Location: At Large.
freiks wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Please listen to the end...



Sad but we have not heard this story from any other corner, maybe looking for sympathy



Am surprised she did not say the cop wanted her.

This mama and Njeri Oyatto are cut from the same cloth.She knows she is cute and has allowed the beauty to get yo her head.

I have lost count of the number of men who have wanted to lay her.Sijui Kidero,James Mwangi.....and so on and so forth.......
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masukuma
#2270 Posted : Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:12:54 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
newfarer wrote:
masukuma wrote:
safariant wrote:
masukuma wrote:
safariant wrote:
Uhuruto has been played.

IEBC chairman ex-ODM,

Court ruling gives him leeway to kick out officials 'responsible' for the lost election mess,

Potential change of ballot printing company may be well calculated to have extra ballot papers.

Coming election will only have presidential votes, if ballot stuffing happens there is no other votes totals to compare with.

Jubilee surport of the current IEBC commission will mean if they lose complaints about rigging will not be taken seriously.

Fighting with Supreme Court means they have no chance of winning a petition against the 4 wakoras.


you think Kenyan's are that organized? mnacheza na elections... GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE LEGAL THING - RIGHT TAKES EFFORT!! GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE ILLEGAL THING - RIGHT je?


But they just did the illegal thing right, to the extent the election was nullified.

It's probably easier to do wrong than right

It's easy to do "wrong" but "wrong" is not a monolithic thing as compared to "right". So the "wrong" that would profit a guy would not necessarily be the "wrong" that would be committed by a wrong doer! Only a cerain type of "wrong" would advantage a candidate and making this "wrong" the standard "wrong" to be committed by everyone takes as much effort as teaching the "right" if not a bit more.


this sounds tychoish.can you break it for the wanjikus



the premise is
1) for any process there are many things can get done - some of them are the right things to be done and some are wrong. for example, the filling in of a form. the "proper" i.e. right thing that can be done is to PROPERLY FILL IN THE FORM WITH ALL REQUIRED FIELDS AND VALID VALUES. so there is only one "proper" way to do it. as soon as someone fails to do it - it's wrong. which means that while the filling in of the form PROPERLY can be done in 1 way - doing it wrong is anything outside that. so for example... filling it with invalid values is wrong. not filling it is invalid. not filling all fields is invalid. not signing it is invalid... as you can see the "invalids" or IMPROPER ways outnumber the "valid" or PROPER WAYS - right? so for each possible right thing there exists many possible wrongs.

2) To get a huge group of people to do this PROPER thing requires rigorous training. anyone who has ever been part of this knows that there are no assumptions. you drill people to do this one PROPER thing and even still... there are always some in every crowd that don't get it.

3) for someone to consistently prejudice one person and end up profiting another person from "IMPROPER" fillings - it has to be consistent. So remembering that there are many "wrong" ways - you need to happen in a certain "wrong" way... right? since such wrong things as not filling in a form screws everyone not just the guy you want. Sometimes there could be a wrong thing that prejudices you and not the guy you want screwed! So you need to be disciplined to ensure that only a certain set of wrong things get done.

4) I therefore came to a conclusion that in the same way getting people to do ONE PROPER THING is hard (as seen in point 2 above), getting them to ignore this ONE PROPER THING and do THIS ONE IMPROPER THING consistently is just as hard as getting them to do the ONE PROPER THING - if not harder.
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