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wukan
#211 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 8:10:23 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
omega wrote:
Design of Oloolotikosh Kitengela-Kajiado Water Supply and Sewarege system project

Water supply and sewarege system in the works as well



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Where is Wukan? This was one of his pet peeves about DC beyond dust smile


Welcome to the 20th Century. This is a good step. You see the way I criticize and things start changing. When you trash talk about a place people in authority start to notice these small things.

On that highway that is an express way. You and I were flipping burgers huko trumpland so you know express ways don't build up an area they have pass through traffic and they actually wreck neighborhoods. The real beneficiary of this project will be Naivahsa and Nakuru real estate. Glad this expressway has been routed far from Nairobi
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Xymalos
#212 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 1:31:05 PM
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Big news: Shillings 300 billion Mombasa mega highway to bypass Nairobi and pass at Isinya/Kisaju area. This will be a major boost for the properties around Isinya/Kisaju areas.
To quote the article "An offshoot of the expressway will pass through Kisaju and Isinya areas, snaking its way to Maai Mahiu to serve travellers to Western Kenya.

Here is the <<link>>

Basically, you will be able to travel from Kitengela to Isinya to Western Kenya avoiding Mombasa road/Nairobi traffic.
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limanika
#213 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 2:10:40 PM
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Is this road necessary at this time? Or it's meant to kill china's belt &road
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NewMoney
#214 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 5:29:16 PM
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limanika wrote:
Is this road necessary at this time? Or it's meant to kill china's belt &road


Nairobi-Mombasa highway has been under-capacity for decades. Driving from Nairobi to Mombasa takes at least 8 hours when it should only take 5 hours in a private vehicle. It is also very dangerous to overtake and you are going to to be in a dozen near-misses on your way.

I can't wait for this road. I prefer going vacationing by road over any other faster means due to the flexibility, convenience and scenery it offers.

Of course, the US will be killing 2 birds with one stone here.
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MugundaMan
#215 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 7:41:24 PM
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wukan wrote:


Welcome to the 20th Century. This is a good step. You see the way I criticize and things start changing. When you trash talk about a place people in authority start to notice these small things.

On that highway that is an express way. You and I were flipping burgers huko trumpland so you know express ways don't build up an area they have pass through traffic and they actually wreck neighborhoods. The real beneficiary of this project will be Naivahsa and Nakuru real estate. Glad this expressway has been routed far from Nairobi

Did the interstate system wreck Houston? Dallas? Los Angeles? Chicago? New York? smile
Of course NOT!
While I agree with you that tiny pockets without exits from the expressway may be impacted (sample on a micro scale how the UoN bridge on University way has killed that whole block directly underneath the ramp on the side opposite campus completely) DC DOES NOT have very built up and established blocks of buildings/neighbourhoods in the virgin areas the expressway will flow through. This means the areas beside the expressway will grow organically around the exits rather than as happened in the states, the Interstate came AFTER large established neighbourhoods had been in existence and had a negative impact on very specific areas that were already built up but bypassed by it.
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limanika
#216 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2019 10:53:53 PM
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NewMoney wrote:
limanika wrote:
Is this road necessary at this time? Or it's meant to kill china's belt &road


Nairobi-Mombasa highway has been under-capacity for decades. Driving from Nairobi to Mombasa takes at least 8 hours when it should only take 5 hours in a private vehicle. It is also very dangerous to overtake and you are going to to be in a dozen near-misses on your way.

I can't wait for this road. I prefer going vacationing by road over any other faster means due to the flexibility, convenience and scenery it offers.

Of course, the US will be killing 2 birds with one stone here.

It's fancy to have all this, but is it viable to do all these projects on same corridor at once? Has somebody worked out the details to confirm both the road and SGR each will generate enough stimulus to the economy to repay the loans or we'll end up being auctioned by the Chinese and the Americans?
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Lolest!
#217 Posted : Monday, April 08, 2019 12:06:51 PM
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limanika wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
limanika wrote:
Is this road necessary at this time? Or it's meant to kill china's belt &road


Nairobi-Mombasa highway has been under-capacity for decades. Driving from Nairobi to Mombasa takes at least 8 hours when it should only take 5 hours in a private vehicle. It is also very dangerous to overtake and you are going to to be in a dozen near-misses on your way.

I can't wait for this road. I prefer going vacationing by road over any other faster means due to the flexibility, convenience and scenery it offers.

Of course, the US will be killing 2 birds with one stone here.

It's fancy to have all this, but is it viable to do all these projects on same corridor at once? Has somebody worked out the details to confirm both the road and SGR each will generate enough stimulus to the economy to repay the loans or we'll end up being auctioned by the Chinese and the Americans?

The expressway is something we don't need at all. I understand Nairobi-Mau Summit highway but hii hapana

If there's a feasibility study, it must've been done by the same Americans
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limanika
#218 Posted : Monday, April 08, 2019 1:03:18 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
limanika wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
limanika wrote:
Is this road necessary at this time? Or it's meant to kill china's belt &road


Nairobi-Mombasa highway has been under-capacity for decades. Driving from Nairobi to Mombasa takes at least 8 hours when it should only take 5 hours in a private vehicle. It is also very dangerous to overtake and you are going to to be in a dozen near-misses on your way.

I can't wait for this road. I prefer going vacationing by road over any other faster means due to the flexibility, convenience and scenery it offers.

Of course, the US will be killing 2 birds with one stone here.

It's fancy to have all this, but is it viable to do all these projects on same corridor at once? Has somebody worked out the details to confirm both the road and SGR each will generate enough stimulus to the economy to repay the loans or we'll end up being auctioned by the Chinese and the Americans?

The expressway is something we don't need at all. I understand Nairobi-Mau Summit highway but hii hapana

If there's a feasibility study, it must've been done by the same Americans

This is the tragedy of African countries in our times. China did their feasibility for SGR without factoring expressway. America did their feasibility of expressway without factoring SGR. So both appear to be viable but when you do both at same time they can't be viable. In both contracts they ensure there is a rider - govt to guarantee the loan using it's assets. The xpress way is even worse coz it'll be a toll road - money paid by common man to use the road will be leaving the economy. Road we don't need in the first place
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wukan
#219 Posted : Monday, April 08, 2019 2:00:19 PM
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MugundaMan wrote:
wukan wrote:


Welcome to the 20th Century. This is a good step. You see the way I criticize and things start changing. When you trash talk about a place people in authority start to notice these small things.

On that highway that is an express way. You and I were flipping burgers huko trumpland so you know express ways don't build up an area they have pass through traffic and they actually wreck neighborhoods. The real beneficiary of this project will be Naivahsa and Nakuru real estate. Glad this expressway has been routed far from Nairobi

Did the interstate system wreck Houston? Dallas? Los Angeles? Chicago? New York? smile
Of course NOT!
While I agree with you that tiny pockets without exits from the expressway may be impacted (sample on a micro scale how the UoN bridge on University way has killed that whole block directly underneath the ramp on the side opposite campus completely) DC DOES NOT have very built up and established blocks of buildings/neighbourhoods in the virgin areas the expressway will flow through. This means the areas beside the expressway will grow organically around the exits rather than as happened in the states, the Interstate came AFTER large established neighbourhoods had been in existence and had a negative impact on very specific areas that were already built up but bypassed by it.


Let compare mangoes with mangoes. Hebu assist me put these mapicha of the kosovo expressway so that your potential DC neighbors can see how cut off they will be with an expressway
https://foreignpolicy.co...ighway-business-kosovo/
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VituVingiSana
#220 Posted : Monday, April 08, 2019 3:27:30 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
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Location: Nairobi
NewMoney wrote:
limanika wrote:
Is this road necessary at this time? Or it's meant to kill china's belt &road


Nairobi-Mombasa highway has been under-capacity for decades. Driving from Nairobi to Mombasa takes at least 8 hours when it should only take 5 hours in a private vehicle. It is also very dangerous to overtake and you are going to to be in a dozen near-misses on your way.

I can't wait for this road. I prefer going vacationing by road over any other faster means due to the flexibility, convenience and scenery it offers.

Of course, the US will be killing 2 birds with one stone here.

The SGR is a colossal waste for us at this time. The new highway will connect towns along the route 24/7 unlike the SGR which is limited to when the train passes by.
No cargo, as far as I know, moves from the Port to the towns along the way.
Mombasa to Nairobi and then "reverse" to Machakos/Salama/Makindu.

Can a farmer send a container of vegetables from Salama to JKIA by rail?
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