dunkang wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:MaichBlack wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:
Likely came from the bonus pool.
being a large shareholder and having board seats often means that you are likely to benefit from skewed company deals that other shareholders know nothing about.
remember the CMC guy Peter Muthoka and Andy Forwarder's deal? Andy Forwarders supposedly overcharged CMC by 1.5 billion because Peter was part of the board and could direct contracts to his company.
This is the kind of stuff ordinary shareholders never know about. Don't compare yourself with significant shareholders and insiders if you're not sure about the backroom board deals.
Peter Muthoka had voting clout [20% or so shareholding] on the board. His 'loss' on his 20% was adequately covered by the shady deals.
The guy with the most to lose in Centum is CK with 25-30% if anyone else does anything fishy.
@vvs - You are very familiar with Merali deals.
This is how these things work. I set up company A which is publicly traded in the NSE. I sell all of you shares but I retain controlling shares (Like 30%). Unknown to you, I have companies B, C, D and E where the shareholding is me my wife, kids and girlfriends. Through my influence, companies B, C, D and E are awarded contracts by A which are extremely skewed in their favour. In due course we all lose money in company A only that the money has been "lost" to my companies! I cry with you in the morning then go celebrate with my wife and kids in the afternoon!!!
To make sure employees don't payuka payuka ovyo, I can threaten them, employ selectively, put employees on a bonus galore or a combination of sorts!
Similar to what was done at Uchumi, eh?
Exactly. Ciano and team were the CEO and managers yet they were also the main suppliers. Do you think they care when share price tanks? NO!
Corporate Kenya is worse than GoK.
No. The taxpayer doesn't lose his shirt for an investment he didn't make in a private concern. You invest in a private firm at your own risk.
Through Warren Buffett's advice [as I have oft repeated here] do NOT invest in a firm, no matter how attractive it looks, if you do NOT trust the Board/Management. Period.
Firms I do not invest in:
Merali's firms - Never. Once I thought I should. Then I read the Annual Report re: Sameer Business Park.
GoK controlled e.g NBK - except KenRe [& perhaps KCB in the future]
Uchumi - I bailed out years ago at a huge profit. Went back in during the Rights. And walked out when I realized what a stupid mistake I had made.
Olympia - My worst investment.
KQ - I was badly burnt
Kuruwitu - Never put in a penny. No plans to either!
Home Afrika - I read the IM. Scam.
Mumias - I bailed out years ago. Never looked back.
And many others.
Where am I invested? [Sigh, cash is depleted]
Unga - Not coz of Ndegwas but Seaboard who seconded the MD.
KenRe - Yes, I made an exception coz the MD seems a good guy but if he leaves...
KenolKobil - Still hurting but Ohana is doing a-OK.
Williamson - Solid, private management. Long-term thinking.
I&M - 100% private. I watch it though.
Aga Khan firms - Good management. I buy on dips. Looking at more TPSEA.
Flame Tree - Just a few but I like it BUT I also watch it. I'd like to know whether the CEO (80% owner) has side deals as a supplier to FTGH.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett