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Law Capping interest rates
wukan
#2171 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 4:07:01 PM
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quicksand wrote:


You, sir/madam, should stop referencing, paraphrasing and/or quoting people.... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ..you are terrible at it...you mean to convey one thing but lack of depth and research into the info you are putting across leads to those arguments circling back and biting you in the ass...


I'm a trader I make money by longing and shorting positions. The quotes are not meant to convey one thing or another. They are actually meant to elicit the kind of comments you make to enable me place my positions in the marketsmile smile smile
quicksand
#2172 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 4:32:36 PM
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wukan wrote:
quicksand wrote:


You, sir/madam, should stop referencing, paraphrasing and/or quoting people.... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ..you are terrible at it...you mean to convey one thing but lack of depth and research into the info you are putting across leads to those arguments circling back and biting you in the ass...


I'm a trader I make money by longing and shorting positions. The quotes are not meant to convey one thing or another. They are actually meant to elicit the kind of comments you make to enable me place my positions in the marketsmile smile smile


Ara,...kumbe unatupima akili?
Pray Pray
Haya...all the best, I hope our bickering gives you insights.
actuarywahisa
#2173 Posted : Friday, July 21, 2017 12:03:46 PM
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Piloting: Barclays’ Sh150m kitty to fund small firms:

http://www.businessdaily...25628-il0kqez/index.html
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
muandiwambeu
#2174 Posted : Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:26:46 PM
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quicksand wrote:
wukan wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
wukan wrote:
There is nothing new under the sun. These usury laws were used in US in the 1970's

Come again?


I missed your comment. You can read more from Alan Greenspan himself on why they had to de-regulate banking laws to avail credit to all income groups


You missed more than just the comment, fren. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
About Greenspan, how did that turn out?
I will help you out. Greenspan's actions at the Fed directly (or indirectly, depending on who you ask) led to the subprime and CDO greed frenzy which brought about the 2008 financial meltdown. Economics is more than paper theory. Greenspan's policies looked good on paper, but failed in catastrophic fashion when banks, the same institutions you would much like to us to trust to self regulate, were given free reign.
What a terrible example you have chosen to prove your point.

Kudos @quicksand. Who felt the heat after all? Collapsing of the biggest American bank. Then the American Wanjiku torched family house together with vital productive human capital. Then Obamacare was born to bring some face to the faceless.then trump is ready to inahilate the desperate human capital by teaching them how to relaly on miti shamba and there no more indigenous forest to harvest the things to to release government expenditure and concentrate on capital industrial assets. Who is going to buy the product that is so expensive, Kenyans? Probably at end of a guns barrel.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
winston
#2175 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:32:01 AM
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Cytonn Newsletter extract sunday 23/7/2017 (extract)

While interest rates have remained relatively stable at low levels, following the Banking (Amendment) Act 2015, private sector credit growth has continued to dip, coming in at 2.1% in May, from 3.3% recorded in March, and 20.9% registered in May 2015, as it is still better to lend to the government as the interest rates remain high on government securities, with a 5-year trading at 12.4%.

Given the current state of low lending in the economy, and that we are under a fixed-rate regime on interest rates, below are the initiatives that need to be taken to spur credit growth once again in the economy:

1. Repeal the Banking (Amendment) Act 2015, given the current regulatory framework has proved to be a hindrance to credit growth, evidenced by the continued decline of private sector credit growth, which is at 2.1% as at March 2017, compared to 5.4% when the amendment was introduced in August 2016,

2. Diversify funding sources, which will enable borrowers to tap into alternative avenues of funding that are more flexible and pocket-friendly. In more developed economies, bank funding accounts for just 40.0% of funding for businesses, yet in this market, bank funding accounts for over 95.0% of funding. Alternative sources of funding, especially capital markets based funding and competing alternative products need not only be developed but encouraged,

3. Consumer education, where borrowers are educated on how to be able to access credit, the use of collateral and establishing a strong credit history,

4. Increased transparency, in a bid to spur competitiveness in the banking sector and bring a halt to excessive fees and costs, with recent initiatives by the CBK and KBA, such as the stringent new laws and cost of credit website, being commendable initiatives, and

5. Improved and more accommodative regulation, such as the Movable Property Security Rights Bill 2017, which seeks to facilitate use of movable assets as collateral for credit facilities, allowing borrowers to use a single asset to access credit from different lenders.


While interest rates are currently at stable low levels, the risk lies in the rigid loan pricing framework that has seen the government crowd out the private sector and lock out “high risk” borrowers, with private sector credit growth now at 2.1% as at May 2017, which could end up impacting negatively on the economy because the private sector is a major job creator. Moreover, the free pricing of loans with no government interference is associated with higher credit growth, when compared to the fixed rate regime the economy is currently under.
ombaalbt
#2176 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:57:05 PM
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An indepth look at interest rate capping https://t.co/5pwgLb8tbL
Learning to sit on my hands
winston
#2177 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:51:39 PM
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[quote=ombaalbt]An indepth look at interest rate capping https://t.co/5pwgLb8tbL[/quote]

I like the parting shot. Banks should be allowed to price risk.

At this point...there are 3 possible outcomes:

1) status quo. capping remains
2) modified capping
3) abandonment of capping.

Ladies and gentlemen...kindly place your bets!
obiero
#2178 Posted : Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:10:08 AM
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winston wrote:
[quote=ombaalbt]An indepth look at interest rate capping https://t.co/5pwgLb8tbL[/quote]

I like the parting shot. Banks should be allowed to price risk.

At this point...there are 3 possible outcomes:

1) status quo. capping remains
2) modified capping
3) abandonment of capping.

Ladies and gentlemen...kindly place your bets!

That was a well done article

obiero
#2179 Posted : Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:42:27 PM
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Governor Njuguna Ndungu speaks on the negative effects of the rate cap http://www.businessdaily...035034-wlaj53/index.html

obiero
#2180 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2017 7:10:39 AM
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Flo-ology wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
obiero wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
obiero wrote:
actuarywahisa wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yaani people have time to respond to tom_boy
All the best


What makes tom_boy mad? Ama you'll classify me as mad as well for asking that? Laughing out loudly

First, Economic theory is not a science!

Secondly, why shouldn't someone respond if they are willing and have the time? I though this is a discussion forum and knowledge sharing is the spirit of Wazua. Watch out not to fall from that horse. Drool

@tomboy raises valid but unrealistic points in Kenya's circumstances.. He must have lived abroad. Fact is that the economy started falling sick under 24 years plus of economic misrule, Mwai Kibaki took us out of the ICU and we were almost discharged, but then 2007 happened, we thus remained in the ward, but in the last four years we have ended up in the HDU.. Corruption and bad policy will ensure that very few citizens in Kenya will ever get to drive a brand new car.

Also note that land across the world is classified as an appreciating asset.. Indeed better use of the same should be encouraged but comparing land to maize simply leaves me speechless


The effects of hoarding land and hoarding maize are the same. Only difference is the time span to effect. If people hoard maize, the immediate effect is starvation.

When people hoard land, it leads to less access to a crucial factor of production, leads to less production, less jobs, less money to buy unga , eventually starvation.

@tomboy the speculative land is normally less than half an acre, barely sufficient for subsistence farming.. Mambo ya starvation tuulize Kulalu



Thats not true my fren. Tembea Kite na kwingineko. What typically happens is some guy buys 100acres from some maasai fellas. Subdivides it into quarters. Sells it to hundreds of kenyans. All these kenyans buy and hoard, hoping to sell later at 100x the buying price.

Now, some chinese fellow comes along. He wants 100 acres to farm commercially. Goes to kite and finds acres and acres of unoccupied land. Gets excited and tries to find out who the owner is only to discover its owned by hundreds of individuals. Gives up and goes back home.

Same story in Nakuru, Naivasha and their environs. We have also large land owners who are basically hoarding land. End effect, reduced investment.


Valid points Tom_boy. Let's hope this rate cap will streamline land sector. I hear most banks are no longer financing land buying

Tano tena? I told you that we will be finished http://www.businessdaily...5212-124shyuz/index.html

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