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KENOL/KOBIL
Impunity
#2131 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 7:04:18 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I have noted that segman throws out some optimism when this share approaches 9bob.can he shutup we buy sub 9 from punicking wanjikus?

Applause Applause Applause

But on another side this KK managemnet seems to be panganging alot, Feb 2012 is a long way away.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Hunderwear
#2132 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 7:25:05 PM
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Impunity wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I have noted that segman throws out some optimism when this share approaches 9bob.can he shutup we buy sub 9 from punicking wanjikus?

Applause Applause Applause

But on another side this KK managemnet seems to be panganging alot, Feb 2012 is a long way away.

Shareholders have the right to this info.No panganga here just living upto the expectations
Aguytrying
#2133 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 7:47:35 PM
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What mlennyma said.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Impunity
#2134 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 7:53:24 PM
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Hunderwear wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I have noted that segman throws out some optimism when this share approaches 9bob.can he shutup we buy sub 9 from punicking wanjikus?

Applause Applause Applause

But on another side this KK managemnet seems to be panganging alot, Feb 2012 is a long way away.

Shareholders have the right to this info.No panganga here just living upto the expectations


Ok Messrs, I will add quite a chunk this Friday when it will touch the all time low of 8.50!
smile
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

jerry
#2135 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 9:10:26 PM
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@Impunity. The ALL TIME LOW stands at 8.40! Anyhow I'm also waiting at 8!
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
VituVingiSana
#2136 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 9:52:07 PM
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Kenyans...

Firms that don't give info (& minimal info) at the last minute... Some folks complain!

Firms like KK which gives S/holders info on a regular basis... Some folks complain!

I am happy to get REGULAR updates from KK. I am very happy to hear the profits are expected to be in line with the projections. What will be even better is if the profits meet the US$ targets coz that is more KShs for me!!!

I have a strong hunch that KK's market share (in Kenya) will be the highest it has ever been in 2011...

With the new facilities in Tanzania, Burundi, Uganda & DRC... the EAC market share will be even higher in 2012!!!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#2137 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 10:19:14 PM
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A FY EPS of Sh2.3-2.5 @hisah will this news save this stock from the capitulation that started at 12 bob http://contrarianinvesti...s-earnings-guidance.html
stocksmaster
#2138 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 10:47:16 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:


"The two fold strategy of geographical expansion and diversification of the groups business lines has produced above expectations results, contributing strongly to the bottom line"

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


Diversification and Geographical expansion- spreading risk/diversify profitability lines:

*At Group Level % of PBT based on 1st Half 2011:
• Retail/Resell- 14%
• Commercial-7%
• Aviation- 17%
• Export-14%
• Trading Desk-11%.
• LPG- 8%
• Non Fuel- 5%
• Lubes- 4%
• F.O & Bitumen – 20%

With the above diversification, its clear why Total Kenya problems are not reflected in KenolKobil........Retail/resell of fuel (what we think is the core business of KK) and what is killing Total Kenya due to price regulation accounts for only 14% of group PBT.....Remember this 14% is based on all countries they have retail networks:Kenya,Uganda,Rwanda,Burundi,Tanzania,Zambia and Ethiopia. Assuming 1/3 of this retail business is attributable to Kenya (Check how the 400 fuel stations are geographically distributed per country), then that means the impact of price control introduced in Kenyalast year affects about only (1/3 x 14%) ie 5% of the PBT of the group. This is the power of business diversification both in terms of regions (reduces country specific risk) and products.

In fact, based on the above breakdown, KK derives 1/5th of its PBT from bitumen!!

Happy Hunting.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#2139 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 11:00:24 PM
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@stocksmaster, thanks for the info. I have to hand it to KK management. Excellent! Excellent! Excellent! Now if the market wants us to buy it at P.E's of 3.5 - 4 as if it was an agricultural, fine by me!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
VituVingiSana
#2140 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 11:36:52 PM
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@stocksmaster the FO = Fuel Oils (sold to firms that burn fuel oil for power) & this is huge in Kenya & Uganda where thermal production is key... so the FO+Bitumen = 20%

I do not understand the 'export' tag since KK supplies most EAC countries directly i.e. it has a presence.

I am sure Kenya's retail fuel sales accounts for more than 5% of the PBT but it is not broken down for competitive purposes.

KK can afford Deal Poa which shows their strength vs the other OMCs. Of course, the Deal Poa if done properly can push sales of other items/goods/services for KK's retailers.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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