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KQ in 2010-11 (Boom, Bust or Blah)
Gordon Gekko
#201 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 3:21:22 PM
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@the deal, take out travel insurance. If the delay goes over 8 hours (UAP Travelsure) they give you some bread......My luggage was delayed once when coming from Oliver Tambo and they paid me $100
the deal
#202 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 5:11:55 PM
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KQ rejects 'illegal' pay claim by union staff-Reuters.
mlennyma
#203 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 6:12:16 PM
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The biggest enemy of this share is its un-reasonable staff.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
winston
#204 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 6:36:26 PM
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Hope am not spoiling the party...but there was some radio news item about Ethiopian, South African and someother carrier trying to work out details on how they can cooperate(if thats the word) on the western africa circuit. Good news or bad news or insignificant?
VituVingiSana
#205 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 7:06:31 PM
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If KQ's staff want to go on strike, let them... then fire them! Let them look for other jobs!

KQ should increase their Africa (excluding Kenya) hiring. There are so many countries KQ flies to... Let's have more West Africans, Central Africans, South Africans, Ugandans, etc... Then there are the Chinese & Indian crew & staff...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
kyt
#206 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 7:19:36 PM
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VVS, is that really the solution? How much are those guys in africa or china or whatever it is, paid as compared to kenya?
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VituVingiSana
#207 Posted : Saturday, October 02, 2010 1:33:36 AM
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kyt wrote:
VVS, is that really the solution? How much are those guys in africa or china or whatever it is, paid as compared to kenya?

1) If the employees think they are underpaid, then QUIT... PLEASE QUIT...Not kesho,lakini leo...

2) I run my own biz. Nobody pays me. I work for value I create. I take jobs that either pay what I am worth OR I take for 'lesser' pay coz I am looking/thinking long-term.

3) I betcha the costs of Chinese & Indian crews & staff is lower! Both countries have huge world-class airlines with lots of experience in maintenance.

4) As for other African countries that KQ flies to... KQ needs a blend of diverse nationalities. You want AT LEAST one Ghanaian on NBO-ACC flights, one Ugandan on NBO-EBB, one Egyptian on NBO-Cairo, etc...

Why? Culture, language, 'pan-African' look...

The Kenyan Pilots Association were bitching about hiring foreign pilots! They would rather KQ hired unqualified local pilots or that it stopped expanding!!!

At some point you have to DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND... If you are dissatisfied with KQ, go start your bloody airline just as Jetlink or Fly540 or Executive have done!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#208 Posted : Saturday, October 02, 2010 2:54:31 PM
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When a rally starts to develop,the strike ghost surfaces
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X13united
#209 Posted : Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:15:13 PM
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@vitu-PILOTS!?! Dont go thea brother. Every pilot that gets this kq wings is qualified,wel trimd to the right facet. At the end of the day,lets rememba that we r kenyans n it wud b good to serve kq. Thru the ab initia, the liks of BA,VIRGIN etc train their people. It wud therefore be fair enough if kq does the same by considerin citizens FIRST. Al the same,whether qualified or not kq stil puts u through books again n again til u glide like an eagle.Al said,i rest my case.
VituVingiSana
#210 Posted : Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:23:18 PM
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@X13 - Exactly my point!!! KQ needs qualified pilots to grow... there are NOT enough QUALIFIED Kenyan pilots to match KQ's needs...

So KQ wanted to hire foreign pilots to continue expanding but the pilots union were bitching about this! They claim there are enough Kenyan pilots who are qualified... They don't say these pilots are qualified for Cessnas but not for Boeing 737s, 767s & 777s!!!

The Ab Initio programs can't produce enough pilots as required TODAY... not for smaller planes but the Boeings...!

As for 'citizens'... 90% of KQ's business is NOT Kenyan... So it needs to open its doors otherwise there is resentment (see chinese in Angola or KQ in Uganda)...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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