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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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I thought Bupamba refused to meet a junior officer in the name of CS Rotich? now is begging a more junior officer? BTW is Dr. Njoroge even answerable to him? As a financial institution, wouldn't that be a breach of customer confidentiality? What kind of lawyers is billboard and watermelon? This seems to be targeted at NJOROGE. Maybe Bupamba has a hand in rogue banks i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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By the way... Raila does not have any official title sio? he is not a public servant or a state officer. He is a CORD bigwig and former prime minister. Ni kama Moi only younger! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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harrydre wrote: This seems to be targeted at NJOROGE. Maybe Bupamba has a hand in rogue banks
"A recent statement by Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich, saying that all the Eurobond proceeds were used to settle debts incurred by the Grand Coalition government had thrown more confusion into the mix, he said" Raila is obviously receiving funds from the thieves in the banks to destroy the progress the governor has been making. The grand coalition brought into garment all these 400 thieves Jubilee has nabbed. Raila "stole" the PM position by declaring himself President and causing chaos. No Kenyans are buying this eurobond, it is foreigners and they are over satisfied and asking for another. A New Kenya
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Bollocks! Central bank is a public entity and the government not a private enterprise either, Every citizen has a right to question the government. Government and CBK are not private entities with customer confidentiality. Very soon , you will tell us that we don't need access to auditor general's management reports because of client confidentiality If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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It is getting hot, primitive, and political, for the holder of the official position of the Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya. The cause of the kerfuffle
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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muganda wrote:It is getting hot, primitive, and political, for the holder of the official position of the Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya. The cause of the kerfuffle mawinder must be a relative of JJ If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:Bollocks! Central bank is a public entity and the government not a private enterprise either, Every citizen has a right to question the government. Government and CBK are not private entities with customer confidentiality. Very soon , you will tell us that we don't need access to auditor general's management reports because of client confidentiality Wachana na hawa with their own thick goggles. CBK Governor is a public officer/servant of the people of Kenya!!! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:By the way... Raila does not have any official title sio? he is not a public servant or a state officer. He is a CORD bigwig and former prime minister. Ni kama Moi only younger! Really!!!!I hope that is but just but a tired myopic tribal joke. Even if that was the case,Have you ever heard of a case where a public spirited individual like Okiya Omtata suing the Gover to disclose some information/desist from some action or inaction and such like where public interests are concerned. Administrative Law 101; You do not need any official title to legally compel the state to do or not to do something. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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keraka wrote: Really!!!!I hope that is but just but a tired myopic tribal joke. Even if that was the case,Have you ever heard of a case where a public spirited individual like Okiya Omtata suing the Gover to disclose some information/desist from some action or inaction and such like where public interests are concerned.
Administrative Law 101; You do not need any official title to legally compel the state to do or not to do something.
I think you misunderstood my premises. Other than being a big wig in a party - Raila and you are no different and so he should not get any "privileges" over and above everyone else - that's my point. The rights and privileges for the rest of us is not in debate. If he can get a meeting with the Central Bank Governor it will be in his capacity as a citizen not anything else. Can a citizen ask to meet the president? Maybe... I don't know (uncharted territory). But I guess it's technically possible since they are state officers and public servants. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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masukuma wrote:keraka wrote: Really!!!!I hope that is but just but a tired myopic tribal joke. Even if that was the case,Have you ever heard of a case where a public spirited individual like Okiya Omtata suing the Gover to disclose some information/desist from some action or inaction and such like where public interests are concerned.
Administrative Law 101; You do not need any official title to legally compel the state to do or not to do something.
I think you misunderstood my premises. Other than being a big wig in a party - Raila and you are no different and so he should not get any "privileges" over and above everyone else - that's my point. The rights and privileges for the rest of us is not in debate. If he can get a meeting with the Central Bank Governor it will be in his capacity as a citizen not anything else. Can a citizen ask to meet the president? Maybe... I don't know (uncharted territory). But I guess it's technically possible since they are state officers and public servants. Raila is inviting ridicule to himself by asking for meetings that are declined flatly. Then he starts throwing tantrums with his cast of confused fellows. Introducing politics in the running of CBK is bad politics. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Swenani wrote:Bollocks! Central bank is a public entity and the government not a private enterprise either, Every citizen has a right to question the government. Government and CBK are not private entities with customer confidentiality. Very soon , you will tell us that we don't need access to auditor general's management reports because of client confidentiality Yes he can be summoned by Senate or parliament but not some useless jobless 3rd parties. Soma hiyo statement tena. Waende kotini tuone how the banking laws will be interpreted. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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who cant see this is all politics for a man trying to remain relevant. Was Njoroge even there when Eurobond was floated? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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I am sure there are procedural ways of asking for information or even question the authorities - that is not in question. But I don't think Me as a private citizen can demand for audience with the president or even a minister over a certain matter. I have the right to have my opinion heard but not sure about face-to-face meetings. I am sure someone acting in a certain capacity has to have created a channel where I as a private citizen can meet a delegate of this "senior" power hata kama ni receptionist I need to reiterate again...my point has nothing to do with access of information which you can petition and should be availed to you! it's about face-to-face "meetings" with any state officer that comes to mind. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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masukuma wrote:I am sure there are procedural ways of asking for information or even question the authorities - that is not in question. But I don't think Me as a private citizen can demand for audience with the president or even a minister over a certain matter. I have the right to have my opinion heard but not sure about face-to-face meetings. I am sure someone acting in a certain capacity has to have created a channel where I as a private citizen can meet a delegate of this "senior" power hata kama ni receptionist I need to reiterate again...my point has nothing to do with access of information which you can petition and should be availed to you! it's about face-to-face "meetings" with any state officer that comes to mind. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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masukuma wrote:I am sure there are procedural ways of asking for information or even question the authorities - that is not in question. But I don't think Me as a private citizen can demand for audience with the president or even a minister over a certain matter. I have the right to have my opinion heard but not sure about face-to-face meetings. I am sure someone acting in a certain capacity has to have created a channel where I as a private citizen can meet a delegate of this "senior" power hata kama ni receptionist I need to reiterate again...my point has nothing to do with access of information which you can petition and should be availed to you! it's about face-to-face "meetings" with any state officer that comes to mind. I never knew that you were this dumb on matters governance. All govt officers from Ouru all the way down to the messenger are public servants and should be ready to answer any questions asked by their employer who is we, Mr or Mrs Public. We the public are the bosses and we can ask our servants (Ouru & co.) any question that we may want at any time that we wish. We the public are the bosses and we can even decide to fire Ouru & co in the next election, and hire a new team, if we are unhappy of their performance. We are that strong.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:I am sure there are procedural ways of asking for information or even question the authorities - that is not in question. But I don't think Me as a private citizen can demand for audience with the president or even a minister over a certain matter. I have the right to have my opinion heard but not sure about face-to-face meetings. I am sure someone acting in a certain capacity has to have created a channel where I as a private citizen can meet a delegate of this "senior" power hata kama ni receptionist I need to reiterate again...my point has nothing to do with access of information which you can petition and should be availed to you! it's about face-to-face "meetings" with any state officer that comes to mind. I never knew that you were this dumb on matters governance. All govt officers from Ouru all the way down to the messenger are public servants and should be ready to answer any questions asked by their employer who is we, Mr or Mrs Public. We the public are the bosses and we can ask our servants (Ouru & co.) any question that we may want at any time that we wish. We the public are the bosses and we can even decide to fire Ouru & co in the next election, and hire a new team, if we are unhappy of their performance. We are that strong. I SAY ONE THING YOU GUYS READ ANOTHER THING!! Who said that they cannot/should not answer questions? who said that they should not give you answers to your query! hebu read again and again what I have written! soma tena! hebu underline Quote:I need to reiterate again...my point has nothing to do with access of information which you can petition and should be availed to you! it's about face-to-face "meetings" with any state officer that comes to mind. uko na marker you underline that part? like twice since everyone is reading their own things! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:I am sure there are procedural ways of asking for information or even question the authorities - that is not in question. But I don't think Me as a private citizen can demand for audience with the president or even a minister over a certain matter. I have the right to have my opinion heard but not sure about face-to-face meetings. I am sure someone acting in a certain capacity has to have created a channel where I as a private citizen can meet a delegate of this "senior" power hata kama ni receptionist I need to reiterate again...my point has nothing to do with access of information which you can petition and should be availed to you! it's about face-to-face "meetings" with any state officer that comes to mind. I never knew that you were this dumb on matters governance. All govt officers from Ouru all the way down to the messenger are public servants and should be ready to answer any questions asked by their employer who is we, Mr or Mrs Public. We the public are the bosses and we can ask our servants (Ouru & co.) any question that we may want at any time that we wish. We the public are the bosses and we can even decide to fire Ouru & co in the next election, and hire a new team, if we are unhappy of their performance. We are that strong. I SAY ONE THING YOU GUYS READ ANOTHER THING!! Who said that they cannot/should not answer questions? who said that they should not give you answers to your query! hebu read again and again what I have written! soma tena! hebu underline Quote:I need to reiterate again...my point has nothing to do with access of information which you can petition and should be availed to you! it's about face-to-face "meetings" with any state officer that comes to mind. uko na marker you underline that part? like twice since everyone is reading their own things! Any citizen/member of the public has a right to walk into any govt/public office and ask any question that he or she wants. From baba to masukuma to hardwood. That is what democracy is all about.....a government of the people, by the people, for the people. No govt official is too senior to be asked questions by wanjiko. Wanjiko is boss, and pays the employee/officer and the employee should be ready to answer all questions or ship out. Then wanjiko will hire new officers to serve her, those who will be ready to answer all her maswali.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote: Any citizen/member of the public has a right to walk into any govt/public office and ask any question that he or she wants. From baba to masukuma to hardwood. That is what democracy is all about.....a government of the people, by the people, for the people. No govt official is too senior to be asked questions by wanjiko. Wanjiko is boss, and pays the employee/officer and the employee should be ready to answer all questions or ship out. Then wanjiko will hire new officers to serve her, those who will be ready to answer all her maswali.
Haya basi... tumalize hii kitu... walk into state house or harambee house and ask to see the president!. Tell me how that went... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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