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Chinese loans for Mombasa to Malaba railway hit Sh1 trillion Total Chinese loans to Kenya for the construction of the Mombasa to Malaba standard gauge railway will hit the Sh1 trillion mark after Exim Bank of China expressed interest in funding the third phase of the project. The lender will pump in Sh490 billion to build the railway between Kisumu and Malaba to link Kenya and Uganda, bringing the total cost to Sh1.02 trillion. This comes at a time when Kenya’s annual debt repayment is set to hit Sh618.5 billion next year, which will see the Treasury spend an estimated Sh40 out of every Sh100 collected from taxpayers on servicing the ballooning loans. The bill represents a 38.5 per cent jump from Sh446.4 billion spent on public debt this year, compared to projected 12 per cent growth in tax collection; a key indicator of the country’s ability to repay. The bank is already financing the first leg of the railway from Mombasa to Nairobi at a cost of Sh380 billion with completed work standing at over 90 per cent currently. The second phase between Nairobi and Naivasha, a stretch of 120 kilometres, will cost Sh150 billion. The higher cost between Nairobi and Naivasha has been attributed to harsh terrain. As a result, the cost of tunnels will take up 23 per cent of the total cost estimated at Sh18.2 billion. The tunnels will cut through Rift Valley escarpments, making design work more expensive. Exim Bank will also fund construction of a modern Sh14 billion port on the shores of Lake Victoria in Kisumu as Kenya targets a bigger maritime trade stake with its land locked neighbours. http://www.businessdaily...473152-rou2jn/index.htmlIn the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Now delayed by 6 months, from Jun-2017 to Jan-2018. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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Angelica _ann wrote:Chinese loans for Mombasa to Malaba railway hit Sh1 trillion Total Chinese loans to Kenya for the construction of the Mombasa to Malaba standard gauge railway will hit the Sh1 trillion mark after Exim Bank of China expressed interest in funding the third phase of the project. The lender will pump in Sh490 billion to build the railway between Kisumu and Malaba to link Kenya and Uganda, bringing the total cost to Sh1.02 trillion. http://www.businessdaily...73152-rou2jn/index.html
This should be Naivasha to Malaba with total length of 370 kms - Phase 2b 262kms and Phase 3 107kms. Am sure this deal will be sealed before March 2017 for a few important reasons. 60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2016 Posts: 225
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2012 wrote:Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations. Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco? Reflection Eternal
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Flo-ology wrote:2012 wrote:Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations. Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco? Me I am (grammar) not even concerned about electric or diesel...what I wanted was a double track to realize the speed,safety and convenience! You cannot operate "high" speed trains on singol tracks...the technology to man sigol tracks safely is so expensive and involving...thats why you see the colonial guys introduced the "line clear" which is a wooden key in the shape of a tennis rack and much bigger...the train would not proceed to the next statin until the train engineer was handed that key. But for double tracks, once the trains are moving in the same direction on the same track, you only need to monitor them on some screen and give them max speeds to operate between certain points, much like its done in the airline. The 4 hour trip promised between Nairobi and Coast is a PIPE DREAM...It will take minimum 8 hour,believe me! And when we have an incident on the sigol track, expect to cancel your trip! By "high speed" I mean anything above 100km/h...which is very slow when compared to real HIGH SPEED! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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Impunity wrote:Flo-ology wrote:2012 wrote:Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations. Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco? Me I am (grammar) not even concerned about electric or diesel...what I wanted was a double track to realize the speed,safety and convenience! You cannot operate "high" speed trains on singol tracks...the technology to man sigol tracks safely is so expensive and involving...thats why you see the colonial guys introduced the "line clear" which is a wooden key in the shape of a tennis rack and much bigger...the train would not proceed to the next statin until the train engineer was handed that key. But for double tracks, once the trains are moving in the same direction on the same track, you only need to monitor them on some screen and give them max speeds to operate between certain points, much like its done in the airline. The 4 hour trip promised between Nairobi and Coast is a PIPE DREAM...It will take minimum 8 hour,believe me! And when we have an incident on the sigol track, expect to cancel your trip! By "high speed" I mean anything above 100km/h...which is very slow when compared to real HIGH SPEED! Am with you here , there is also discipline.I saw the other day the Chinese are doing campaigns for those living along the railway about their safety. Once the maasais start grazing their cows and pap several of them are hit by those trains then in Kenya its known some people behave the same way as cows , you know when you drive along thika road.The guys who will mann the stations have to be very serious like the air controllers otherwise utaskia a head on collission somewhere. This happens even in developped countries , there was such a case in Germany the other day. There is also the case of stacking they talk about ati the rail has been made to hold a train with stacked containers, well i'm waiting to see this one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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kiash wrote:Impunity wrote:Flo-ology wrote:2012 wrote:Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations. Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco? Me I am (grammar) not even concerned about electric or diesel...what I wanted was a double track to realize the speed,safety and convenience! You cannot operate "high" speed trains on singol tracks...the technology to man sigol tracks safely is so expensive and involving...thats why you see the colonial guys introduced the "line clear" which is a wooden key in the shape of a tennis rack and much bigger...the train would not proceed to the next statin until the train engineer was handed that key. But for double tracks, once the trains are moving in the same direction on the same track, you only need to monitor them on some screen and give them max speeds to operate between certain points, much like its done in the airline. The 4 hour trip promised between Nairobi and Coast is a PIPE DREAM...It will take minimum 8 hour,believe me! And when we have an incident on the sigol track, expect to cancel your trip! By "high speed" I mean anything above 100km/h...which is very slow when compared to real HIGH SPEED! Am with you here , there is also discipline.I saw the other day the Chinese are doing campaigns for those living along the railway about their safety. Once the maasais start grazing their cows and pap several of them are hit by those trains then in Kenya its known some people behave the same way as cows , you know when you drive along thika road.The guys who will mann the stations have to be very serious like the air controllers otherwise utaskia a head on collission somewhere. This happens even in developped countries , there was such a case in Germany the other day. There is also the case of stacking they talk about ati the rail has been made to hold a train with stacked containers, well i'm waiting to see this one. Eti double stack containers on that single truck...one emergency break due Maasai cows and pap! everything goes tumbling down. The recent Germany crash was on a single section and the train was highly digitized system with auto brakes should the driver exceed speed designated. Its the signal controllers who messed up. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Flo-ology wrote:2012 wrote:Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations. Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco? Did they make that promise? I thought they said that it can be easily converted to electric when that time comes? Surely, there is no way we can do an electric train at this time from Mombasa to Kisumu. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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The Machizi Express Thus FarDANIEL NYASSY, in his article in the Business Daily dated 09 Njaanuary 2017, has it that four locomotives have docked at the port of Mombasa. He asserts that this sends a strong signal about the government’s plan to put the Kshs. 372 billion Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) to use by June 2017. The consignment is the first batch of the powered rail vehicles expected to haul modern wagons along the modern railway. Quote:They arrived ahead of commissioning on Wednesday (11 Njaanuary 2017?) by Transport and Infrastructure secretary James Macharia, who is expected to flag them off. How comes Kenian Number One is not commissioning/flagging off these locomotives? Link:
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/23/2012 Posts: 32
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kiash wrote:Impunity wrote:Flo-ology wrote:2012 wrote:Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations. Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco? Me I am (grammar) not even concerned about electric or diesel...what I wanted was a double track to realize the speed,safety and convenience! You cannot operate "high" speed trains on singol tracks...the technology to man sigol tracks safely is so expensive and involving...thats why you see the colonial guys introduced the "line clear" which is a wooden key in the shape of a tennis rack and much bigger...the train would not proceed to the next statin until the train engineer was handed that key. But for double tracks, once the trains are moving in the same direction on the same track, you only need to monitor them on some screen and give them max speeds to operate between certain points, much like its done in the airline. The 4 hour trip promised between Nairobi and Coast is a PIPE DREAM...It will take minimum 8 hour,believe me! And when we have an incident on the sigol track, expect to cancel your trip! By "high speed" I mean anything above 100km/h...which is very slow when compared to real HIGH SPEED! Am with you here , there is also discipline.I saw the other day the Chinese are doing campaigns for those living along the railway about their safety. Once the maasais start grazing their cows and pap several of them are hit by those trains then in Kenya its known some people behave the same way as cows , you know when you drive along thika road.The guys who will mann the stations have to be very serious like the air controllers otherwise utaskia a head on collission somewhere. This happens even in developped countries , there was such a case in Germany the other day. There is also the case of stacking they talk about ati the rail has been made to hold a train with stacked containers, well i'm waiting to see this one. Now we start getting news of 'residents have blocked the railway to protest the death of so and so who was knocked down by the train.'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Impunity wrote:The Mombasa SGR Super Bridge coming up nicely... Is that the airport that I am seeing there?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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@Impunity thanks for bringing up that thingy called the line clear, many eons ago everytime we would go to the coast I would see the train driver (ni ukweli anaitwa machine operator?) drop that tennis-racket shaped thing and pick up another and I would wonder nini hio. So its purpose is to only open up the line section?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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aemathenge wrote:The Machizi Express Thus FarDANIEL NYASSY, in his article in the Business Daily dated 09 Njaanuary 2017, has it that four locomotives have docked at the port of Mombasa. He asserts that this sends a strong signal about the government’s plan to put the Kshs. 372 billion Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) to use by June 2017. The consignment is the first batch of the powered rail vehicles expected to haul modern wagons along the modern railway. Quote:They arrived ahead of commissioning on Wednesday (11 Njaanuary 2017?) by Transport and Infrastructure secretary James Macharia, who is expected to flag them off. How comes Kenian Number One is not commissioning/flagging off these locomotives? Link: Kenia-ONE will be in India sub-continent looking Doctors for lease! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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hardwood wrote:Impunity wrote:The Mombasa SGR Super Bridge coming up nicely... Is that the airport that I am seeing there? I am also seeing it. That could be the Changamwe area! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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