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Othelo
#201 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:21:27 PM
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mulla wrote:
heri wrote:
sparkly wrote:
heri wrote:
I have nobody to blame but my greed . How could i not have sold CFC at 140. most of my gains have been wiped out

i thought the double digits profit growths would last longer

What was your purchase price?


I bought at 66 two years ago

Pole sana bro....its a learning experience...You have got to be disciplined enough when making a sale too...once you reach your target start preparing yourself for exit and fight emotions of greed. At over 100% capital gain that counter should have been long sold.

once i make 100% plus on a share, generally i recover my initial investment and treat the remaining shares at zero value & manage it for there on long term basis (though i still watch the portfolio). Learnt the hard way from firestone and cables smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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sparkly
#202 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:21:37 PM
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heri wrote:
sparkly wrote:
heri wrote:
I have nobody to blame but my greed . How could i not have sold CFC at 140. most of my gains have been wiped out

i thought the double digits profit growths would last longer

What was your purchase price?


I bought at 66 two years ago


Its now at 101 so you can still sell at a profit. watch out for support on the way down at 85-90, 65-70 and if things go baaad at 45!
Life is short. Live passionately.
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VituVingiSana
#203 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:45:58 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I highly doubt Kk can trade at 7bob approaching H1 results leave alone the 5-6 range somebody is quoting
Never say never. It will be a great point to buy more by the spadeful.

These chances do not come along often.

If I controlled KK, I would start selling off any station that does not make (or potential) enough to cover 15% ROA. I would use the cash to pay down debt.

Then shop around for a buyer/suitor.

If there are no suitors, then just sell off the stations to the highest bidder [not a fire sale but a coordinated sale] as I find buyers for the depots, etc.

My gut feeling is that the assets [land and buildings] are worth more than the Book Value.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Pesa Nane
#204 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 9:28:18 AM
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When market varies its trading hours "due to President Barack Obama's visit"

Buy or Sell early. Market closes at 1200 HRS

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Aguytrying
#205 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 11:36:40 AM
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friends, it is not funny out there. Britam can be had for 14.00, hfck for 20.50( though i expected this this is pretty shocking how quickly it has materialised). Cic heading to 5 bob!! centum at 48- That one made me smile its coming back to earthly valuations soon. There are shocking prices out there.

There are 3 stocks still holding the NSE at respectable levels. Safcom, kcb, Equity. KCB and equity seem to be succumbing to the bear but not completely. Safcom is the hardest nut to crack, after the bounce that has been talked of, if safcom breaches below 15 and lower, that's when the real party will start, and all other stocks should sink properly after that.

Happy hunting, bargain hunters.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Metasploit
#206 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 12:12:21 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
friends, it is not funny out there. Britam can be had for 14.00, hfck for 20.50( though i expected this this is pretty shocking how quickly it has materialised). Cic heading to 5 bob!! centum at 48- That one made me smile its coming back to earthly valuations soon. There are shocking prices out there.

There are 3 stocks still holding the NSE at respectable levels. Safcom, kcb, Equity. KCB and equity seem to be succumbing to the bear but not completely. Safcom is the hardest nut to crack, after the bounce that has been talked of, if safcom breaches below 15 and lower, that's when the real party will start, and all other stocks should sink properly after that.

Happy hunting, bargain hunters.


Equity is losing ground soo fast.Touched a low of 40

HFCK RSI is worse than 2009.Its on a 5 year low (5 year chart RSI at around 10) with sellers still active.It is breaching the 2013 support of 21-22 which means the next low is the 2012 support of 13-15.I thought the guy would bottom in 2016 but seems bottom is in 2015 with sideway plays in 2016.

EQUITY 156M traded volume (30th June 2015) and other volumes (between 18th June to 15th JUly 2015) were distribution volumes!!
Guys has breached the 45 support and now the 40 support.NEXT SUPPORT IS 35.

CFC is already flirting with sub 100

I Think for now its better to flee the market..dont even hunt for bargains till the 2016 sideway plays is almost done towards Q3 2016.

Or plays defensive with agrics like EAAGADS et all

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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S.Mutaga III
#207 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 2:59:27 PM
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Stock market is 90% psychology and 10% genius/luck. If you can watch your portfolio shrink 60% without selling,you are made for the market. Someone once told me that's why only dead people make serious cash in stocks over the long term.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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kryptonite
#208 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 3:16:18 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
friends, it is not funny out there. Britam can be had for 14.00, hfck for 20.50( though i expected this this is pretty shocking how quickly it has materialised). Cic heading to 5 bob!! centum at 48- That one made me smile its coming back to earthly valuations soon. There are shocking prices out there.

There are 3 stocks still holding the NSE at respectable levels. Safcom, kcb, Equity. KCB and equity seem to be succumbing to the bear but not completely. Safcom is the hardest nut to crack, after the bounce that has been talked of, if safcom breaches below 15 and lower, that's when the real party will start, and all other stocks should sink properly after that.

Happy hunting, bargain hunters.


Equity is losing ground soo fast.Touched a low of 40

HFCK RSI is worse than 2009.Its on a 5 year low (5 year chart RSI at around 10) with sellers still active.It is breaching the 2013 support of 21-22 which means the next low is the 2012 support of 13-15.I thought the guy would bottom in 2016 but seems bottom is in 2015 with sideway plays in 2016.

EQUITY 156M traded volume (30th June 2015) and other volumes (between 18th June to 15th JUly 2015) were distribution volumes!!
Guys has breached the 45 support and now the 40 support.NEXT SUPPORT IS 35.

CFC is already flirting with sub 100

I Think for now its better to flee the market..dont even hunt for bargains till the 2016 sideway plays is almost done towards Q3 2016.

Or plays defensive with agrics like EAAGADS et all



What is potential support for CFC, in your analysis?

Thanks for the insights by the way, highly appreciated.
The harder you work, the luckier you get
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mulla
#209 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 12:09:40 PM
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kryptonite wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
friends, it is not funny out there. Britam can be had for 14.00, hfck for 20.50( though i expected this this is pretty shocking how quickly it has materialised). Cic heading to 5 bob!! centum at 48- That one made me smile its coming back to earthly valuations soon. There are shocking prices out there.

There are 3 stocks still holding the NSE at respectable levels. Safcom, kcb, Equity. KCB and equity seem to be succumbing to the bear but not completely. Safcom is the hardest nut to crack, after the bounce that has been talked of, if safcom breaches below 15 and lower, that's when the real party will start, and all other stocks should sink properly after that.

Happy hunting, bargain hunters.


Equity is losing ground soo fast.Touched a low of 40

HFCK RSI is worse than 2009.Its on a 5 year low (5 year chart RSI at around 10) with sellers still active.It is breaching the 2013 support of 21-22 which means the next low is the 2012 support of 13-15.I thought the guy would bottom in 2016 but seems bottom is in 2015 with sideway plays in 2016.

EQUITY 156M traded volume (30th June 2015) and other volumes (between 18th June to 15th JUly 2015) were distribution volumes!!
Guys has breached the 45 support and now the 40 support.NEXT SUPPORT IS 35.

CFC is already flirting with sub 100

I Think for now its better to flee the market..dont even hunt for bargains till the 2016 sideway plays is almost done towards Q3 2016.

Or plays defensive with agrics like EAAGADS et all



What is potential support for CFC, in your analysis?

Thanks for the insights by the way, highly appreciated.


Now if the real bear is supposed to awaken in 2016, with the elections coming in 2017 theoretically the market may not pick up until after the elections when things settle down.....d'oh!
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Aguytrying
#210 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 12:49:19 PM
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@mulla. That is exactly what we thought before the 2013 elections. The bear was in 2011. Do you remember how that turned out?
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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