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masukuma
#2031 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:20:13 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
T-Bag wrote:
Tanzania to reopen schools after 3-month closure.

This can only mean two things:-
Either
1. Magufuli knowns something we all dont and has been right all along or
2. He has decided to go for herd immunity

Either way....this does not add up...he needs to release infor so the world can learn from


I think I figured out Maghufuli... He says one thing and people assume he means what you think he means. He is not a madman. The devil is in the details. Look
Maghufuli Opens up the country for tourism - no Quarantine. All tourist hotels, restaurants, and bars in Zanzibar are open. Yes...
Guess what is being implemented in reality:
all visitors are required to comply with laid down regulations by the government INCLUDING adducing certification that they are COVID-free. The government will screen every visitor entering Tanzania and has already designated isolation centers to hold those who may show COVID-19 symptoms. Here, they will undergo comprehensive tests if they are suspected of having Covid. They will be required to fill in traveler's surveillance forms at port of entries. they are required to adhere to infection prevention control measures e.g. hand washing, wearing masks and physical distancing.

Universities and other institutions of learning resumed teaching and learning activities with strict guidelines.
Quote:

School leadership, academies and educational institutions should encourage students, teachers and their staff to wear cloth face masks when they return.

Authorities are to ensure soap and water handwashing stations as well as adequate supplies of other sanitation supplies as towels and toiletries.

Spacing is another requirement that they are tasked to implement. Students with signs of the virus must be tested whiles those that have contracted it must stay away till their situation improves. Universities that were used as quarantine centers are to be disinfected 72-hours to reopening.


As far as hospitalization is concerned - they send people home... ukifa - kufa nyumbani. No people with PPE burying you. Those that get sick - get sick. those who recover -recover.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
thuks
#2032 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2020 8:51:37 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
mpobiz wrote:
masukuma wrote:

Ask this guy kama what he had was “homa”


Though I don't like relying on the so called "official" figures 99.9% of recoveries in Africa happen after a concoction of maji ya ndimu or malimau. furthermore we all know that ICU in kenya only means a simple oxygen treatment. the jamaa was only having anxiety attacks because of you and your useless government scare tactics. I know he was just ok.
One major fact is that this is a recovery and not a death. Hii kitu ni homa tu.


These friends had a night out in Florida. Now, they all have Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/vide...bar-warning-cpt-vpx.cnn
I care!
Fyatu
#2033 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:09:51 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
mpobiz wrote:


I don't know why you are telling us or me this. Unless you think Mr kagwe is a wazuan aka fyatu. I cannot influence any government policies on this pandemic.
I am just a cheerleader of what our government is doing. I am an admirer of what Mr makufuli is doing.

I also don't know what we are waiting to see after 5 months of living with this infection. hii kitu ni homa tu.
If you talk of corona affecting your brain there is also a small information that you should know. The most visible symptom of cerebral malaria is hallucinations and paranoia. Mainly characterised by visions of mythical monsters and wild outbursts of warnings to the people near you of imminent danger that is yet to come.
Now you know there are far worse deseases that affect the brain with servere outcomes than covid.



Yawa!
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
mpobiz
#2034 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:44:47 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,264
Fyatu wrote:
mpobiz wrote:


I don't know why you are telling us or me this. Unless you think Mr kagwe is a wazuan aka fyatu. I cannot influence any government policies on this pandemic.
I am just a cheerleader of what our government is doing. I am an admirer of what Mr makufuli is doing.

I also don't know what we are waiting to see after 5 months of living with this infection. hii kitu ni homa tu.
If you talk of corona affecting your brain there is also a small information that you should know. The most visible symptom of cerebral malaria is hallucinations and paranoia. Mainly characterised by visions of mythical monsters and wild outbursts of warnings to the people near you of imminent danger that is yet to come.
Now you know there are far worse deseases that affect the brain with servere outcomes than covid.



Yawa!


Stop this act Mr kagwe. @masukuma has been busy advising the government and we know you have read his "facts"
Ignore them at your own risk
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Fyatu
#2035 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:07:00 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
mpobiz wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
mpobiz wrote:


I don't know why you are telling us or me this. Unless you think Mr kagwe is a wazuan aka fyatu. I cannot influence any government policies on this pandemic.
I am just a cheerleader of what our government is doing. I am an admirer of what Mr makufuli is doing.

I also don't know what we are waiting to see after 5 months of living with this infection. hii kitu ni homa tu.
If you talk of corona affecting your brain there is also a small information that you should know. The most visible symptom of cerebral malaria is hallucinations and paranoia. Mainly characterised by visions of mythical monsters and wild outbursts of warnings to the people near you of imminent danger that is yet to come.
Now you know there are far worse deseases that affect the brain with servere outcomes than covid.



Yawa!


Stop this act Mr kagwe. @masukuma has been busy advising the government and we know you have read his "facts"
Ignore them at your own risk


The mystery about Covid-19 is that common wananchi have not witnessed its horrors thus far. I bet most wazuans have witnessed the agony/horrors of say malaria(fever, baridi-joto,nightmares,stiff neck,death), and other diseases as tb,HIV/AIDS etc atleast once in their lifetimes but very few know how the critically-ill covid19 patient looks like. I myself have not seen with my own eyes how a critically ill covid19 patient looks like but has seen a cholera patient and a malaria patient and a pneumonia patient, tb patient, snakebite patient etc . I think if wananchi knew the pain and suffering covid19 can do to a patient then i think 90% of population would adhere to government regulations.

If it is true that covid19 has killed hundreds of thousands in the "mighty" US of A, and others like "Great" Britain and China then i think our worst is not yet here.

Looking at the official numbers given by MOH/Kagwe, it is obvious the numbers are growing. Whether our infection numbers will hit hundreds of thousands like in USA remains to be seen. Most scary is whether Kenyans will start dying 1000 per day like in other jurisdictions as we have seen in news media.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
masukuma
#2036 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:05:56 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Fyatu wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
mpobiz wrote:


I don't know why you are telling us or me this. Unless you think Mr kagwe is a wazuan aka fyatu. I cannot influence any government policies on this pandemic.
I am just a cheerleader of what our government is doing. I am an admirer of what Mr makufuli is doing.

I also don't know what we are waiting to see after 5 months of living with this infection. hii kitu ni homa tu.
If you talk of corona affecting your brain there is also a small information that you should know. The most visible symptom of cerebral malaria is hallucinations and paranoia. Mainly characterised by visions of mythical monsters and wild outbursts of warnings to the people near you of imminent danger that is yet to come.
Now you know there are far worse deseases that affect the brain with servere outcomes than covid.



Yawa!


Stop this act Mr kagwe. @masukuma has been busy advising the government and we know you have read his "facts"
Ignore them at your own risk


The mystery about Covid-19 is that common wananchi have not witnessed its horrors thus far. I bet most wazuans have witnessed the agony/horrors of say malaria(fever, baridi-joto,nightmares,stiff neck,death), and other diseases as tb,HIV/AIDS etc atleast once in their lifetimes but very few know how the critically-ill covid19 patient looks like. I myself have not seen with my own eyes how a critically ill covid19 patient looks like but has seen a cholera patient and a malaria patient and a pneumonia patient, tb patient, snakebite patient etc . I think if wananchi knew the pain and suffering covid19 can do to a patient then i think 90% of population would adhere to government regulations.

If it is true that covid19 has killed hundreds of thousands in the "mighty" US of A, and others like "Great" Britain and China then i think our worst is not yet here.

Looking at the official numbers given by MOH/Kagwe, it is obvious the numbers are growing. Whether our infection numbers will hit hundreds of thousands like in USA remains to be seen. Most scary is whether Kenyans will start dying 1000 per day like in other jurisdictions as we have seen in news media.

these are usually signs of failed states... I have seen it before. I was in Liberia and I simuliad the stories on this thread. Its predictable human behavioir - I guess similar to the Kübler-Ross model but for infectious diseases. It may be a couple of steps first
(1) extreme caution and irrational fear; (2) doubt spread by conspiracy theories especially about 'the other'; (3) rejection of scientific information; (4) flooding of hospitals; (5) acceptance of the reality and adjustment to that reality

Watu waliwachana na Bill Gates?

People who are old enough on Wazua can remember when I wrote this
Quote:
masukuma wrote:
kysse wrote:
One can eat ALL they want,the world doesn't really care.

I find it extremely dumb to continue eating high risk untested meat during an outbreak,blame the goverment and put the whole world at risk because' eating primates 'is our culture.'
Well.. then embrace Ebola as part of the culture and stop making noise since hamuambiiki!!

Ebola is not yesterday's disease,the ancestors just didn't know what was killing them.

Some diseases we presently suffer from will find names a decade later.
Then our grandkids will say ' our ancestors used to..... 'Pleease note, it killed us we just called it witchcraft. !!'

don't confuse greed with culture.






this is the problem... ebola is their problem now due to the nature of the disease.... but, this is 'now' some zoonose will come and in the same way HIV sneaked in and became a global problem and not a Cameroonian problem - that zoonose will shake the world UNLESS the whole world decides to do something about it. We are lucky that Ebola is a difficult to catch disease but who knows what lies in the equatorial forests or even maybe it's already out and like HIV is silent and spreading until the day it 'kicks in'. In the same way the sahara desert causes storms in the US these diseases will not obey immigration rules and will come at you seated comfy in the savannahs. Ebola is a west african problem but a future one may not be!


All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
sqft
#2037 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:41:09 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 961
Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
mpobiz wrote:


I don't know why you are telling us or me this. Unless you think Mr kagwe is a wazuan aka fyatu. I cannot influence any government policies on this pandemic.
I am just a cheerleader of what our government is doing. I am an admirer of what Mr makufuli is doing.

I also don't know what we are waiting to see after 5 months of living with this infection. hii kitu ni homa tu.
If you talk of corona affecting your brain there is also a small information that you should know. The most visible symptom of cerebral malaria is hallucinations and paranoia. Mainly characterised by visions of mythical monsters and wild outbursts of warnings to the people near you of imminent danger that is yet to come.
Now you know there are far worse deseases that affect the brain with servere outcomes than covid.



Yawa!


Stop this act Mr kagwe. @masukuma has been busy advising the government and we know you have read his "facts"
Ignore them at your own risk


The mystery about Covid-19 is that common wananchi have not witnessed its horrors thus far. I bet most wazuans have witnessed the agony/horrors of say malaria(fever, baridi-joto,nightmares,stiff neck,death), and other diseases as tb,HIV/AIDS etc atleast once in their lifetimes but very few know how the critically-ill covid19 patient looks like. I myself have not seen with my own eyes how a critically ill covid19 patient looks like but has seen a cholera patient and a malaria patient and a pneumonia patient, tb patient, snakebite patient etc . I think if wananchi knew the pain and suffering covid19 can do to a patient then i think 90% of population would adhere to government regulations.

If it is true that covid19 has killed hundreds of thousands in the "mighty" US of A, and others like "Great" Britain and China then i think our worst is not yet here.

Looking at the official numbers given by MOH/Kagwe, it is obvious the numbers are growing. Whether our infection numbers will hit hundreds of thousands like in USA remains to be seen. Most scary is whether Kenyans will start dying 1000 per day like in other jurisdictions as we have seen in news media.

these are usually signs of failed states... I have seen it before. I was in Liberia and I simuliad the stories on this thread. Its predictable human behavioir - I guess similar to the Kübler-Ross model but for infectious diseases. It may be a couple of steps first
(1) extreme caution and irrational fear; (2) doubt spread by conspiracy theories especially about 'the other'; (3) rejection of scientific information; (4) flooding of hospitals; (5) acceptance of the reality and adjustment to that reality

Watu waliwachana na Bill Gates?

People who are old enough on Wazua can remember when I wrote this
Quote:
masukuma wrote:
kysse wrote:
One can eat ALL they want,the world doesn't really care.

I find it extremely dumb to continue eating high risk untested meat during an outbreak,blame the goverment and put the whole world at risk because' eating primates 'is our culture.'
Well.. then embrace Ebola as part of the culture and stop making noise since hamuambiiki!!

Ebola is not yesterday's disease,the ancestors just didn't know what was killing them.

Some diseases we presently suffer from will find names a decade later.
Then our grandkids will say ' our ancestors used to..... 'Pleease note, it killed us we just called it witchcraft. !!'

don't confuse greed with culture.






this is the problem... ebola is their problem now due to the nature of the disease.... but, this is 'now' some zoonose will come and in the same way HIV sneaked in and became a global problem and not a Cameroonian problem - that zoonose will shake the world UNLESS the whole world decides to do something about it. We are lucky that Ebola is a difficult to catch disease but who knows what lies in the equatorial forests or even maybe it's already out and like HIV is silent and spreading until the day it 'kicks in'. In the same way the sahara desert causes storms in the US these diseases will not obey immigration rules and will come at you seated comfy in the savannahs. Ebola is a west african problem but a future one may not be!




Relax. The world is not ending soon. The human genome has survived thousands of pathogens over the ages and will survive hii homa ya corona.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
Swenani
#2038 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:01:49 PM
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When you guys-the corona specialists-are done with this argument, please let us know what we should do
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masukuma
#2039 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:04:46 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Swenani wrote:
When you guys-the corona specialists-are done with this argument, please let us know what we should do

I say - social distance, wash hands, wear masks, stay at home when you can. @mpobiz recommends that you go lick every pole in sight.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Lolest!
#2040 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:13:06 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
masukuma wrote:
Swenani wrote:
When you guys-the corona specialists-are done with this argument, please let us know what we should do

I say - social distance, wash hands, wear masks, stay at home when you can. @mpobiz recommends that you go lick every pole in sight.

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