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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Dear Member, We would like to sincerely thank you for the assistance and solidarity you have shown for the past two days. Your support here at Rubani house and from all over has been amazing. We are happy to announce that after tough deliberations and negotiations, we have come to an understanding with KQ Management on the minimum changes that we needed to have seen done as a back to work plan. This is what we have achieved with immediate effect: 1. KQ Group HR Director, Alban Mwendar has tendered his resignation. 2.KQ Director Corporate Quality, Safety&Security, Alex Avedi has been sent on compulsory leave with immediate effect. 3 KQ Director Flight Ops, Capt Paul Mwangi has been sent on compulsory leave with immediate effect. I am pleased to announced that we achieved OVERWHELMING compliance while on the Strike. The very few non-compliant members are known and SEVERE disciplinary action will follow shortly. We will keep you in copy on this issue. We again urge Members to go beyond the call of duty to crew all flights tomorrow and restore goodwill during the one-month consultative process leading to 1st June 2016. Kindly be advised that negotiations are still ongoing and timelines have been set and restated today by the CS, Transport; so we expect more management changes by the June 1st 2016 deadline. Thanking you all once again. The state of our Union is indeed strong. God bless you All. Long Live KALPA Yours Faithfully, Capt. Paul Gichinga General Secretary KALPA. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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having excelled in Matatu/ mathree bizina I find some similarities in and with qk business and I have a few words of insight sofar learnt to . 1. for express packages like is for qk u have to toe to the line. 2. you can hire and fire your driver at will or engage mpango driver, but the driver and stage crew will always do it without a blink of an eye, 3. your driver controls your maintenance schedule and may order any maintenance emergencies at will 4. you can not higher just any driver, the chama has priori over drivers to engage and their vetted ones. 5. and to make the matters worse, in qk case, u can not unbrand and stage hop. Now, I feel truly sorry for this owner of kq fighting a bare knuckle battle u were not ready for. bile pekee. hata chumvi sitapanda wachana na bp na sukari, hizo tumezoea tayari. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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having excelled in Matatu/ mathree bizina I find some similarities in and with qk business and I have a few words of insight sofar learnt to . 1. for express packages like is for qk u have to toe to the line. 2. you can hire and fire your driver at will or engage mpango driver, but the driver and stage crew will always do it without a blink of an eye, 3. your driver controls your maintenance schedule and may order any maintenance emergencies at will 4. you can not higher just any driver, the chama has priori over drivers to engage and their vetted ones. 5. and to make the matters worse, in qk case, u can not unbrand and stage hop. Now, I feel truly sorry for this owner of kq fighting a bare knuckle battle u were not ready for. bile pekee. hata chumvi sitapanda wachana na bp na sukari, hizo tumezoea tayari. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Amen.. 2bob may never reach. 4 is the true bottom KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Amen.. 2bob may never reach. 4 is the true bottom I'll still smoke you out from your hiding joint obiero  .I need some results for some tier three banks .quaterly .you have you links.hook me up sir
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Amen.. 2bob may never reach. 4 is the true bottom Only time will prove you wrong @obiero. We are 2bob away from 4bob! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Amen.. 2bob may never reach. 4 is the true bottom Only time will prove you wrong @obiero. We are 2bob away from 4bob! That "we" includes me too! 2 bob it shall. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Amen.. 2bob may never reach. 4 is the true bottom Only time will prove you wrong @obiero. We are 2bob away from 4bob! That "we" includes me too! 2 bob it shall. One thing I know of myself is that I am not a gambler. Hii kitu imepimwa na ratili. Time will tell. FYR announcement only few weeks away KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Amen.. 2bob may never reach. 4 is the true bottom Only time will prove you wrong @obiero. We are 2bob away from 4bob! That "we" includes me too! 2 bob it shall. One thing I know of myself is that I am not a gambler. Hii kitu imepimwa na ratili. Time will tell. FYR announcement only few weeks away Have you factored in looming dilution as government plans to convert bailout funds, it has been periodically releasing, to common stock? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Thiong'o wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:This is what they achieved @Obiero...Alban,has resigned...Alex Avedi and Paul Mwangi sent on compulsory leave...Mbuvi given till June 1st or another strike will take place... @maka how exactly is that an achievement. I don't link that in with improved performance. It was always said that staff had a reckless attitude at KQ. from ccare to the pilots.. The staff should be giving solutions. Askin for the scalp of the big men will give emotional wins but economically they shall be worse off. They are postponing the inevitable. Kama si ngunze atawafuta then its the next chap @obiero you mean to clarify that Nguze is headed to the exit? I was at the AGM. the CEO has full backing of the shareholders by and large I don’t see how one would support these pilots. Reminds me of Hindsight bias in behavioral finance - the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism where in hindsight, people consistently exaggerate what could have been anticipated in foresight. They not only tend to view what has happened as having been inevitable but also to view it as having appeared 'relatively inevitable' before it happened. People believe that others should have been able to anticipate events much better than was actually the case.Do the pilots hold shares in this company? If the pilots succeed in this endeavor to overhaul the management, they should as well try to change the shareholding they seem not happy with KLM and I doubt the challenges will ease with the management overhaul…. Lots of risk in this type of business more so systematic. Beware when the Union purports to speak for the company. Unions and shareholders have never had common interests Amen.. 2bob may never reach. 4 is the true bottom Only time will prove you wrong @obiero. We are 2bob away from 4bob! That "we" includes me too! 2 bob it shall. One thing I know of myself is that I am not a gambler. Hii kitu imepimwa na ratili. Time will tell. FYR announcement only few weeks away Have you factored in looming dilution as government plans to convert bailout funds, it has been periodically releasing, to common stock? I didnt expect anything less from GoK. It is baked into the price KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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At least Jambojet is doing well. http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/qx8uxcz/-/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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