wazua Thu, Apr 9, 2026
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

238 Pages«<201202203204205>»
KENOL/KOBIL
stocksmaster
#2021 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:20:16 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/26/2006
Posts: 463
Location: CENTRAL PROVINCE
[quote=mkonomtupu]PUMP N DUMP?

Fuel marketer KenolKobil is expanding along the east African coast with the hope of eventually becoming a takeover target for an Asian or Middle Eastern firm, its chairman and managing director said....
"We are developing a set of assets, an outfit, which would be a target for a takeover bid coming from India, China, Arabian Gulf players, or Malaysia."
http://www.businessdaily...0/-/f80ybo/-/index.html[/quote]

I have no problem with starting a business, running it profitably then selling it for a nice profit. I have done the same in Pharmaceuticals to handsome returns (Open a pharmacy, run it for a year, develop systems,volumes,clientele and then sell it with a nice goodwill) and start the cycle again...... this beats the returns of running the enterprise yourself.

I remember two weeks ago, i mentioned these reccurrent theme (take over target) in Kestrel's Investor Briefs and said i support the idea. The NBV becomes very critical in such a transaction (remember KK is trading at a price to book value of almost 1). With the assets being held at acquisition price (they shelved the idea of revaluing their assets this year), a revaluation of their assets with this real estate hype in Kenya would create a dramatic price to book value.

The price undercutting through this 'Deal Poa' now makes perfect sense as any suitor would be enticed by KK's market share which it is able to grow dramatically through the discounted pump prices.

Its also good to note that the company is set to meet its 2011 net profit target of $ 36m (Ksh 3.6B). This means a EPS of Ksh 2.44 and at current price of Ksh 9.50, a P/E of 3.89!!
With a total dividend of at Ksh 1 for 2011, this is a dividend yield of 10.5%. Not a bad return on investment as we await a wealthy buyer.........I like the way this man Segman thinks!

Happy hunting
x handle: @stocksmaster79
youcan'tstopusnow
#2022 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:14:37 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 3/24/2010
Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
Cde, I'm sure Segman also wants his payday as soon as his stock options are exercisedsmile

GG, contrast the performance of Jubilee and Pan Africa. Still same industry.

The share has been battered the past few days. Now that the horse (Segman) has outlined his intentions, will the share respond as favourable as Sasini did to the 'real estate' story? Kesho 9.30 asubuhi...
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
youcan'tstopusnow
#2023 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:17:09 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 3/24/2010
Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
Cde, I'm sure Segman also wants his payday as soon as his stock options are exercisedsmile

GG, contrast the performance of Jubilee and Pan Africa. Still same industry.

The share has been battered the past few days. Now that the horse (Segman) has outlined his intentions, will the share respond as favourable as Sasini did to the 'real estate' story? Kesho 9.30 asubuhi...
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
cnn
#2024 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:35:59 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/17/2009
Posts: 1,627
And for those who were thinking a profit warning there is your answer,the volatility of the shilling will reduce the end year earnings but a 50% growth in EPS share at full year is given.
@stocksmaster...very interesting the pharmaceutical play.
youcan'tstopusnow
#2025 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:25:02 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 3/24/2010
Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
The company now makes more than 60 percent of its profits from operations outside of Kenya, Segman said.

Ah! That should clear a few things up
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#2026 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:16:10 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
The company now makes more than 60 percent of its profits from operations outside of Kenya, Segman said.

Ah! That should clear a few things up

#sniff.sniff# yeah... Fresh air smile
Cde Monomotapa
#2027 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:19:51 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
stocksmaster wrote:
[quote=mkonomtupu]PUMP N DUMP?

Fuel marketer KenolKobil is expanding along the east African coast with the hope of eventually becoming a takeover target for an Asian or Middle Eastern firm, its chairman and managing director said....
"We are developing a set of assets, an outfit, which would be a target for a takeover bid coming from India, China, Arabian Gulf players, or Malaysia."
http://www.businessdaily...0/-/f80ybo/-/index.html[/quote]

I have no problem with starting a business, running it profitably then selling it for a nice profit. I have done the same in Pharmaceuticals to handsome returns (Open a pharmacy, run it for a year, develop systems,volumes,clientele and then sell it with a nice goodwill) and start the cycle again...... this beats the returns of running the enterprise yourself.

I remember two weeks ago, i mentioned these reccurrent theme (take over target) in Kestrel's Investor Briefs and said i support the idea. The NBV becomes very critical in such a transaction (remember KK is trading at a price to book value of almost 1). With the assets being held at acquisition price (they shelved the idea of revaluing their assets this year), a revaluation of their assets with this real estate hype in Kenya would create a dramatic price to book value.

The price undercutting through this 'Deal Poa' now makes perfect sense as any suitor would be enticed by KK's market share which it is able to grow dramatically through the discounted pump prices.

Its also good to note that the company is set to meet its 2011 net profit target of $ 36m (Ksh 3.6B). This means a EPS of Ksh 2.44 and at current price of Ksh 9.50, a P/E of 3.89!!
With a total dividend of at Ksh 1 for 2011, this is a dividend yield of 10.5%. Not a bad return on investment as we await a wealthy buyer.........I like the way this man Segman thinks!

Happy hunting

I'm backing a KES 1.2 dividend for FY2011. #Sitting.pretty#
Gordon Gekko
#2028 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:14:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/27/2008
Posts: 3,760
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde, I'm sure Segman also wants his payday as soon as his stock options are exercisedsmile

GG, contrast the performance of Jubilee and Pan Africa. Still same industry.

The share has been battered the past few days. Now that the horse (Segman) has outlined his intentions, will the share respond as favourable as Sasini did to the 'real estate' story? Kesho 9.30 asubuhi...


I've always said, and on record that JHL is an investment company passing of as an insurance company - I actually compare it to Centum rather than Pan Africa.
youcan'tstopusnow
#2029 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2011 9:01:55 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 3/24/2010
Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
I'd say JUB is much better than the others at investing its premiums. Pan Africa had a few investments of their own which didn't stop a decline in profitability
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
ammy
#2030 Posted : Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:53:50 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/6/2008
Posts: 26
stocksmaster wrote:
[quote=mkonomtupu]PUMP N DUMP?

Fuel marketer KenolKobil is expanding along the east African coast with the hope of eventually becoming a takeover target for an Asian or Middle Eastern firm, its chairman and managing director said....
"We are developing a set of assets, an outfit, which would be a target for a takeover bid coming from India, China, Arabian Gulf players, or Malaysia."
http://www.businessdaily...0/-/f80ybo/-/index.html[/quote]

I have no problem with starting a business, running it profitably then selling it for a nice profit. I have done the same in Pharmaceuticals to handsome returns (Open a pharmacy, run it for a year, develop systems,volumes,clientele and then sell it with a nice goodwill) and start the cycle again...... this beats the returns of running the enterprise yourself.

I remember two weeks ago, i mentioned these reccurrent theme (take over target) in Kestrel's Investor Briefs and said i support the idea. The NBV becomes very critical in such a transaction (remember KK is trading at a price to book value of almost 1). With the assets being held at acquisition price (they shelved the idea of revaluing their assets this year), a revaluation of their assets with this real estate hype in Kenya would create a dramatic price to book value.

The price undercutting through this 'Deal Poa' now makes perfect sense as any suitor would be enticed by KK's market share which it is able to grow dramatically through the discounted pump prices.

Its also good to note that the company is set to meet its 2011 net profit target of $ 36m (Ksh 3.6B). This means a EPS of Ksh 2.44 and at current price of Ksh 9.50, a P/E of 3.89!!
With a total dividend of at Ksh 1 for 2011, this is a dividend yield of 10.5%. Not a bad return on investment as we await a wealthy buyer.........I like the way this man Segman thinks!

Happy hunting

I like how your thinking however if you look through the article again, segman does not mention kenya as one of themost profitable regions. its zambia, Tanzania and Rwanda and already in zambia and tanzania, the company has invested heavily in storage facilities hence the profits. I think deal poa is just a way to get more customers as well as increase market share, a game that airtel, celtel, kencell whatever have been playing for the longest time then ultimately sell the company for huge profits.
Fahali wawili wakipigana nyasi huumia
238 Pages«<201202203204205>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2026 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.