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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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enyands wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:2M shares traded @4.00 a few minutes ago. Meanwhile it's likely the price will test sub 4.00. Big fight going on between bulls and bears. Is @Obiero OK? He has gone MIA. He is out lamenting appealing for PPT from the rooftops. Loaded up extra today.. Good times are here. Thank me later @obiero you have a crocodile skin Crocodile skin is understatement...this is KEVLAR in its purest form! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:2M shares traded @4.00 a few minutes ago. Meanwhile it's likely the price will test sub 4.00. Big fight going on between bulls and bears. Is @Obiero OK? He has gone MIA. He is out lamenting appealing for PPT from the rooftops. Loaded up extra today.. Good times are here. Thank me later @obiero you have a crocodile skin Crocodile skin is understatement...this is KEVLAR in its purest form! The past financial year was the last haemorrage.. Blue skies from here on
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/16/2006 Posts: 21
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KQ will be out of the current state but it will take time. I am reliably meant to understand that the London day flight is doing better than the night flight for the slot they sold. More Kenyans are flying the 9.15 am flight and they have had to bump of passengers. The leased planes will be bringing in good money starting this month. Better start making plans to jump in.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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kinyash wrote:KQ will be out of the current state but it will take time. I am reliably meant to understand that the London day flight is doing better than the night flight for the slot they sold. More Kenyans are flying the 9.15 am flight and they have had to bump of passengers. The leased planes will be bringing in good money starting this month. Better start making plans to jump in. It will take a loooooooonnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg while... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/16/2006 Posts: 21
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Time will tell...but I seems they will be getting good cash from the leasing of aircraft.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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kinyash wrote:Time will tell...but I seems they will be getting good cash from the leasing of aircraft. Does the aircraft they are leasing belong to them or to some morgage? Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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KALPA issues 48 hour strike notice... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:KALPA issues 48 hour strike notice...  On a hindsight, sub-2 in on the horizon.Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Last nail. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:2M shares traded @4.00 a few minutes ago. Meanwhile it's likely the price will test sub 4.00. Big fight going on between bulls and bears. Is @Obiero OK? He has gone MIA. He is out lamenting appealing for PPT from the rooftops. Loaded up extra today.. Good times are here. Thank me later @obiero you have a crocodile skin Crocodile skin is understatement...this is KEVLAR in its purest form! The past financial year was the last haemorrage.. Blue skies from here on Yes, blue skies with no KQ planes in them if KALPA comes through on their threat. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:2M shares traded @4.00 a few minutes ago. Meanwhile it's likely the price will test sub 4.00. Big fight going on between bulls and bears. Is @Obiero OK? He has gone MIA. He is out lamenting appealing for PPT from the rooftops. Loaded up extra today.. Good times are here. Thank me later @obiero you have a crocodile skin Crocodile skin is understatement...this is KEVLAR in its purest form! The past financial year was the last haemorrage.. Blue skies from here on Yes, blue skies with no KQ planes in them if KALPA comes through on their threat. Who here imagines that the pilots will strike. Even worse who thinks that the CEO will resign. Over what???? These guys have been given a fair option, go to ET continue earning a living, KQ can not sustain them but wanakwamilia. Useless chaps
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:2M shares traded @4.00 a few minutes ago. Meanwhile it's likely the price will test sub 4.00. Big fight going on between bulls and bears. Is @Obiero OK? He has gone MIA. He is out lamenting appealing for PPT from the rooftops. Loaded up extra today.. Good times are here. Thank me later @obiero you have a crocodile skin Crocodile skin is understatement...this is KEVLAR in its purest form! The past financial year was the last haemorrage.. Blue skies from here on Yes, blue skies with no KQ planes in them if KALPA comes through on their threat. Who here imagines that the pilots will strike. Even worse who thinks that the CEO will resign. Over what???? These guys have been given a fair option, go to ET continue earning a living, KQ can not sustain them but wanakwamilia. Useless chaps The ET ones have signed the agreement this is another camp all together...Who wants to be out of a job...think they just want to delay KQ 600. ...buy time...all the gains over the past year will be eroded...scaling down of services...HOTAC...transport costs...this will be bad. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:2M shares traded @4.00 a few minutes ago. Meanwhile it's likely the price will test sub 4.00. Big fight going on between bulls and bears. Is @Obiero OK? He has gone MIA. He is out lamenting appealing for PPT from the rooftops. Loaded up extra today.. Good times are here. Thank me later @obiero you have a crocodile skin Crocodile skin is understatement...this is KEVLAR in its purest form! The past financial year was the last haemorrage.. Blue skies from here on Yes, blue skies with no KQ planes in them if KALPA comes through on their threat. Who here imagines that the pilots will strike. Even worse who thinks that the CEO will resign. Over what???? These guys have been given a fair option, go to ET continue earning a living, KQ can not sustain them but wanakwamilia. Useless chaps Who tells you they cant strike? WHO? This will be last 6 inch nail we have all been waiting for the sub 2 bob...we here I mean @ djCK, Ndegwas, Kenyalamp and I&I. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/11/2016 Posts: 30 Location: Nairobi
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Jambo Wazua people. Been a keen follower of the threads here for almost 3 years now and I have learnt so many things. Truly greatful for the posts from @hisah,@vituvingisana,@Obiero and so many other people that have kept information flowing through the years. I have close dealings with what is going on with the KQ pilots and i felt i should chip in to create objective awareness.
The problem KQ has with the staff unfortunately is all Human Resource related. The managers have lost touch with their staff and especially the key staff in operations i.e pilots, engineers and technicians, cabin crew, flight dispatchers,crew planning and scheduling and even some guys in the offices are also just badly demotivated.
Mckinsey did an employee satisfaction survey when they stepped in late last year. After they compiled the report and issued it officially to the management there was a minute of silence because they could not believe how bad the employees felt about the company and especially about the senior management.
As it stands right now Kq staff feel like there is no sense of accountability in the company. We all saw the swift change of management in Kenol Kobil after the 2012 performance, the same in Uchumi,Mumias....we have recently seen National bank. How come there is no significant change in KQ? Yet you want to sack 600 people who had no control of the situation.
I am sure the pilots going to be sacked will be a very small percentage of the 600. Those pilots are the only people with a strong union to fight for change in that company because it really needs it. People will be quick to blame the pilots but forget the gross misconduct and corporate governance negligence that has been in that company for the longest.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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nzalela wrote:Jambo Wazua people. Been a keen follower of the threads here for almost 3 years now and I have learnt so many things. Truly greatful for the posts from @hisah,@vituvingisana,@Obiero and so many other people that have kept information flowing through the years. I have close dealings with what is going on with the KQ pilots and i felt i should chip in to create objective awareness.
The problem KQ has with the staff unfortunately is all Human Resource related. The managers have lost touch with their staff and especially the key staff in operations i.e pilots, engineers and technicians, cabin crew, flight dispatchers,crew planning and scheduling and even some guys in the offices are also just badly demotivated.
Mckinsey did an employee satisfaction survey when they stepped in late last year. After they compiled the report and issued it officially to the management there was a minute of silence because they could not believe how bad the employees felt about the company and especially about the senior management.
As it stands right now Kq staff feel like there is no sense of accountability in the company. We all saw the swift change of management in Kenol Kobil after the 2012 performance, the same in Uchumi,Mumias....we have recently seen National bank. How come there is no significant change in KQ? Yet you want to sack 600 people who had no control of the situation.
I am sure the pilots going to be sacked will be a very small percentage of the 600. Those pilots are the only people with a strong union to fight for change in that company because it really needs it. People will be quick to blame the pilots but forget the gross misconduct and corporate governance negligence that has been in that company for the longest.
So in your opinion , what is the solution? Fire the senior management staff and retain the bloated workforce for KQ? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:nzalela wrote:Jambo Wazua people. Been a keen follower of the threads here for almost 3 years now and I have learnt so many things. Truly greatful for the posts from @hisah,@vituvingisana,@Obiero and so many other people that have kept information flowing through the years. I have close dealings with what is going on with the KQ pilots and i felt i should chip in to create objective awareness.
The problem KQ has with the staff unfortunately is all Human Resource related. The managers have lost touch with their staff and especially the key staff in operations i.e pilots, engineers and technicians, cabin crew, flight dispatchers,crew planning and scheduling and even some guys in the offices are also just badly demotivated.
Mckinsey did an employee satisfaction survey when they stepped in late last year. After they compiled the report and issued it officially to the management there was a minute of silence because they could not believe how bad the employees felt about the company and especially about the senior management.
As it stands right now Kq staff feel like there is no sense of accountability in the company. We all saw the swift change of management in Kenol Kobil after the 2012 performance, the same in Uchumi,Mumias....we have recently seen National bank. How come there is no significant change in KQ? Yet you want to sack 600 people who had no control of the situation.
I am sure the pilots going to be sacked will be a very small percentage of the 600. Those pilots are the only people with a strong union to fight for change in that company because it really needs it. People will be quick to blame the pilots but forget the gross misconduct and corporate governance negligence that has been in that company for the longest.
So in your opinion , what is the solution? Fire the senior management staff and retain the bloated workforce for KQ? @Swenani is it really a bloated workforce?Guys from ground services complain they are overwhelmed kazi mingi sana... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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maka wrote:Swenani wrote:nzalela wrote:Jambo Wazua people. Been a keen follower of the threads here for almost 3 years now and I have learnt so many things. Truly greatful for the posts from @hisah,@vituvingisana,@Obiero and so many other people that have kept information flowing through the years. I have close dealings with what is going on with the KQ pilots and i felt i should chip in to create objective awareness.
The problem KQ has with the staff unfortunately is all Human Resource related. The managers have lost touch with their staff and especially the key staff in operations i.e pilots, engineers and technicians, cabin crew, flight dispatchers,crew planning and scheduling and even some guys in the offices are also just badly demotivated.
Mckinsey did an employee satisfaction survey when they stepped in late last year. After they compiled the report and issued it officially to the management there was a minute of silence because they could not believe how bad the employees felt about the company and especially about the senior management.
As it stands right now Kq staff feel like there is no sense of accountability in the company. We all saw the swift change of management in Kenol Kobil after the 2012 performance, the same in Uchumi,Mumias....we have recently seen National bank. How come there is no significant change in KQ? Yet you want to sack 600 people who had no control of the situation.
I am sure the pilots going to be sacked will be a very small percentage of the 600. Those pilots are the only people with a strong union to fight for change in that company because it really needs it. People will be quick to blame the pilots but forget the gross misconduct and corporate governance negligence that has been in that company for the longest.
So in your opinion , what is the solution? Fire the senior management staff and retain the bloated workforce for KQ? @Swenani is it really a bloated workforce?Guys from ground services complain they are overwhelmed kazi mingi sana... KQ currently has a flight of about 39 with a workforce of around 3400. In my streetwise opinion, that's an overstaffed firm! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Swenani wrote:maka wrote:Swenani wrote:nzalela wrote:Jambo Wazua people. Been a keen follower of the threads here for almost 3 years now and I have learnt so many things. Truly greatful for the posts from @hisah,@vituvingisana,@Obiero and so many other people that have kept information flowing through the years. I have close dealings with what is going on with the KQ pilots and i felt i should chip in to create objective awareness.
The problem KQ has with the staff unfortunately is all Human Resource related. The managers have lost touch with their staff and especially the key staff in operations i.e pilots, engineers and technicians, cabin crew, flight dispatchers,crew planning and scheduling and even some guys in the offices are also just badly demotivated.
Mckinsey did an employee satisfaction survey when they stepped in late last year. After they compiled the report and issued it officially to the management there was a minute of silence because they could not believe how bad the employees felt about the company and especially about the senior management.
As it stands right now Kq staff feel like there is no sense of accountability in the company. We all saw the swift change of management in Kenol Kobil after the 2012 performance, the same in Uchumi,Mumias....we have recently seen National bank. How come there is no significant change in KQ? Yet you want to sack 600 people who had no control of the situation.
I am sure the pilots going to be sacked will be a very small percentage of the 600. Those pilots are the only people with a strong union to fight for change in that company because it really needs it. People will be quick to blame the pilots but forget the gross misconduct and corporate governance negligence that has been in that company for the longest.
So in your opinion , what is the solution? Fire the senior management staff and retain the bloated workforce for KQ? @Swenani is it really a bloated workforce?Guys from ground services complain they are overwhelmed kazi mingi sana... KQ currently has a flight of about 39 with a workforce of around 3400. In my streetwise opinion, that's an overstaffed firm! Your opinion is pea-sized. Manifest ignorance! Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/25/2011 Posts: 67
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Are the KQ Pilots likely to actualise their threat by no Aircraft going airborne tomorrow because i don't envision Mbuvi Ngunze going anywhere
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,071 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:2M shares traded @4.00 a few minutes ago. Meanwhile it's likely the price will test sub 4.00. Big fight going on between bulls and bears. Is @Obiero OK? He has gone MIA. He is out lamenting appealing for PPT from the rooftops. Loaded up extra today.. Good times are here. Thank me later @obiero you have a crocodile skin Crocodile skin is understatement...this is KEVLAR in its purest form! The past financial year was the last haemorrage.. Blue skies from here on Yes, blue skies with no KQ planes in them if KALPA comes through on their threat. Who here imagines that the pilots will strike. Even worse who thinks that the CEO will resign. Over what???? These guys have been given a fair option, go to ET continue earning a living, KQ can not sustain them but wanakwamilia. Useless chaps Who tells you they cant strike? WHO? This will be last 6 inch nail we have all been waiting for the sub 2 bob...we here I mean @ djCK, Ndegwas, Kenyalamp and I&I. Read tomorrow's paper.. I know things on KQ that you only guess about http://www.businessdaily...0/-/m2bx2g/-/index.html
The ruling had to be delayed at one point as info filtered in that discussions will be pushed to June. This was a directive by Mr. Macharia. Reasoning behind it was to release FYR, that would give the CEO an upperhand based on positive runrate of Project Pride
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