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Okoth Obado Case
hardwood
#191 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 12:45:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
radio wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Pregnancy issue is a mask , a diversion and all seem to have swallowed the bait.

I am seeing some guys already wondering about how Barrack managed to jump out of a moving vehicle when he and the lady were sandwiched by the thugs.

I had wondered the same too, but quickly reminded myself I'm not the fittest guy around...


Though the road around where he jumped has very high bumps so could have been slowing the vehicle.


And Adrenaline!



Ok..let me figure out this one. Sandwiched between two strangers of ill intent,manage to wriggle out,open the door,jump out of the moving car, get hurt but still outpace the assailants to safety!!

What's the name of the movie?


Yah! It's easy to doubt everything when behind a computer and comfort ya..


Seems he knows more about what happened than the victim.



Now that the emotions have died down,can we have some answers?


So you want to say he sliced his own knees with a knife as part of a plot to blackmail/extort the gabana?

Baratang
#192 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 1:12:00 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 10/6/2009
Posts: 587
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
radio wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Pregnancy issue is a mask , a diversion and all seem to have swallowed the bait.

I am seeing some guys already wondering about how Barrack managed to jump out of a moving vehicle when he and the lady were sandwiched by the thugs.

I had wondered the same too, but quickly reminded myself I'm not the fittest guy around...


Though the road around where he jumped has very high bumps so could have been slowing the vehicle.


And Adrenaline!



Ok..let me figure out this one. Sandwiched between two strangers of ill intent,manage to wriggle out,open the door,jump out of the moving car, get hurt but still outpace the assailable to safety!!

What's the name of the movie?


Yah! It's easy to doubt everything when behind a computer and comfort ya..


Seems he knows more about what happened than the victim.



Now that the emotions have died down,can we have some answers?


So you want to say he sliced his own knees with a knife as part of a plot to defraud the gabana?



It is not like that @ hardwood. Look at it this way. For any ordinary salon car, the space between the front seat and the back rest of the back seat is about two and a half feet. The space between the front seat (when it is occupied) is just about a foot. When an adult passenger occupies the back seat, the space available between the front seat and the chest of the passenger is about one and a half foot while the space from the same is less than half a foot to the knee. This is the reason why if any passengers on back seat sitted between other passengers on the right and left hand side want to alight, those passengers on either extreme sides have to alight first in order to avail the necessary manouvring space for the alighting passenger because the space is too small.

Think about that first as we continue to unravel the mystery...
Obi 1 Kanobi
#193 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 1:55:43 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/23/2008
Posts: 3,017
Baratang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
radio wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Pregnancy issue is a mask , a diversion and all seem to have swallowed the bait.

I am seeing some guys already wondering about how Barrack managed to jump out of a moving vehicle when he and the lady were sandwiched by the thugs.

I had wondered the same too, but quickly reminded myself I'm not the fittest guy around...


Though the road around where he jumped has very high bumps so could have been slowing the vehicle.


And Adrenaline!



Ok..let me figure out this one. Sandwiched between two strangers of ill intent,manage to wriggle out,open the door,jump out of the moving car, get hurt but still outpace the assailable to safety!!

What's the name of the movie?


Yah! It's easy to doubt everything when behind a computer and comfort ya..


Seems he knows more about what happened than the victim.



Now that the emotions have died down,can we have some answers?


So you want to say he sliced his own knees with a knife as part of a plot to defraud the gabana?



It is not like that @ hardwood. Look at it this way. For any ordinary salon car, the space between the front seat and the back rest of the back seat is about two and a half feet. The space between the front seat (when it is occupied) is just about a foot. When an adult passenger occupies the back seat, the space available between the front seat and the chest of the passenger is about one and a half foot while the space from the same is less than half a foot to the knee. This is the reason why if any passengers on back seat sitted between other passengers on the right and left hand side want to alight, those passengers on either extreme sides have to alight first in order to avail the necessary manouvring space for the alighting passenger because the space is too small.

Think about that first as we continue to unravel the mystery...

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you you are trying to describe the space behind I don't know backseat to explain what a person who was trying to save his life reacted to danger. @Baratang, adrenaline has a way of making people do the impossible. At the time this was escaping from the car, he must have sensed that death itself was in that car. Those guys based on what they did to the poor lady must have been very intimidating, surely you can't fault this guy for saving his life with analysis of sijui how its not possible to do what.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
kaka2za
#194 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 2:19:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Baratang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
radio wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Pregnancy issue is a mask , a diversion and all seem to have swallowed the bait.

I am seeing some guys already wondering about how Barrack managed to jump out of a moving vehicle when he and the lady were sandwiched by the thugs.

I had wondered the same too, but quickly reminded myself I'm not the fittest guy around...


Though the road around where he jumped has very high bumps so could have been slowing the vehicle.


And Adrenaline!



Ok..let me figure out this one. Sandwiched between two strangers of ill intent,manage to wriggle out,open the door,jump out of the moving car, get hurt but still outpace the assailable to safety!!

What's the name of the movie?


Yah! It's easy to doubt everything when behind a computer and comfort ya..


Seems he knows more about what happened than the victim.



Now that the emotions have died down,can we have some answers?


So you want to say he sliced his own knees with a knife as part of a plot to defraud the gabana?



It is not like that @ hardwood. Look at it this way. For any ordinary salon car, the space between the front seat and the back rest of the back seat is about two and a half feet. The space between the front seat (when it is occupied) is just about a foot. When an adult passenger occupies the back seat, the space available between the front seat and the chest of the passenger is about one and a half foot while the space from the same is less than half a foot to the knee. This is the reason why if any passengers on back seat sitted between other passengers on the right and left hand side want to alight, those passengers on either extreme sides have to alight first in order to avail the necessary manouvring space for the alighting passenger because the space is too small.

Think about that first as we continue to unravel the mystery...

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you you are trying to describe the space behind I don't know backseat to explain what a person who was trying to save his life reacted to danger. @Baratang, adrenaline has a way of making people do the impossible. At the time this was escaping from the car, he must have sensed that death itself was in that car. Those guys based on what they did to the poor lady must have been very intimidating, surely you can't fault this guy for saving his life with analysis of sijui how its not possible to do what.


Or maybe..they actually threw him out. And if so,why?

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hardwood
#195 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 2:30:21 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Sansa
#196 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 7:13:04 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 344
This is my speculation ...

Things were not going well between Sharon and the governor and perhaps each party had threatened the other with all manner of things. To cover her bases, at some point, Sharon contacted Barrack and told him she had a juicy, scandalous story about the governor. However, things started looking iffy for her so she decided to escape to TZ. While there, Mr. Oyamo contacted her and managed to lure her back to KE, probably with promises that the governor's stance had softened. So she decided to come back to KE to meet with Oyamo but because she is a smart lady, she decided to go to the meeting with Barrack - maybe he was to pretend to be a friend of hers.

So Sharon and Barrack get to the market at Rodi Kopany as planned and wait for Oyamo, who calls and finds out that Sharon has come with Barrack. Oyamo decides this might hinder his plans to kidnap her easily (market + 2 people to kidnap + witnesses = chances the crowds will help the two and maybe kill him and his associates). So he suggests a change of location to one which he things will be easier to manage.

So Sharon and Barrack head to the hotel in Rongo and wait for Oyamo. This time he arrives but suggests another location to which they will travel together (this is how he has planned he will get them in a car to kidnap them). Prior to heading out he excuses himself to use the toilet where he makes a phone call letting his associates in the car what the situation is.

Barrack is only caught up in this mess because Oyamo did not know what Sharron had told him already, and there's no way Oyamo could have separated the two without raising suspicion. He also wanted to write a juicy story ... but we can't really blame him for that can we?

That's how this looks to me thanks to the many movies I have watched.




murchr
#197 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26:31 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Sansa wrote:
This is my speculation ...

Things were not going well between Sharon and the governor and perhaps each party had threatened the other with all manner of things. To cover her bases, at some point, Sharon contacted Barrack and told him she had a juicy, scandalous story about the governor. However, things started looking iffy for her so she decided to escape to TZ. While there, Mr. Oyamo contacted her and managed to lure her back to KE, probably with promises that the governor's stance had softened. So she decided to come back to KE to meet with Oyamo but because she is a smart lady, she decided to go to the meeting with Barrack - maybe he was to pretend to be a friend of hers.

So Sharon and Barrack get to the market at Rodi Kopany as planned and wait for Oyamo, who calls and finds out that Sharon has come with Barrack. Oyamo decides this might hinder his plans to kidnap her easily (market + 2 people to kidnap + witnesses = chances the crowds will help the two and maybe kill him and his associates). So he suggests a change of location to one which he things will be easier to manage.

So Sharon and Barrack head to the hotel in Rongo and wait for Oyamo. This time he arrives but suggests another location to which they will travel together (this is how he has planned he will get them in a car to kidnap them). Prior to heading out he excuses himself to use the toilet where he makes a phone call letting his associates in the car what the situation is.

Barrack is only caught up in this mess because Oyamo did not know what Sharron had told him already, and there's no way Oyamo could have separated the two without raising suspicion. He also wanted to write a juicy story ... but we can't really blame him for that can we?

That's how this looks to me thanks to the many movies I have watched.







Now what about the MCA? Try to add the twist that Obado had promised Sharon a house and Sharon sent these SMSs to Obado's wife and son.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Baratang
#198 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 8:44:36 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 10/6/2009
Posts: 587
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Baratang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
radio wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Pregnancy issue is a mask , a diversion and all seem to have swallowed the bait.

I am seeing some guys already wondering about how Barrack managed to jump out of a moving vehicle when he and the lady were sandwiched by the thugs.

I had wondered the same too, but quickly reminded myself I'm not the fittest guy around...


Though the road around where he jumped has very high bumps so could have been slowing the vehicle.


And Adrenaline!



Ok..let me figure out this one. Sandwiched between two strangers of ill intent,manage to wriggle out,open the door,jump out of the moving car, get hurt but still outpace the assailable to safety!!

What's the name of the movie?


Yah! It's easy to doubt everything when behind a computer and comfort ya..


Seems he knows more about what happened than the victim.



Now that the emotions have died down,can we have some answers?


So you want to say he sliced his own knees with a knife as part of a plot to defraud the gabana?



It is not like that @ hardwood. Look at it this way. For any ordinary salon car, the space between the front seat and the back rest of the back seat is about two and a half feet. The space between the front seat (when it is occupied) is just about a foot. When an adult passenger occupies the back seat, the space available between the front seat and the chest of the passenger is about one and a half foot while the space from the same is less than half a foot to the knee. This is the reason why if any passengers on back seat sitted between other passengers on the right and left hand side want to alight, those passengers on either extreme sides have to alight first in order to avail the necessary manouvring space for the alighting passenger because the space is too small.

Think about that first as we continue to unravel the mystery...

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you you are trying to describe the space behind I don't know backseat to explain what a person who was trying to save his life reacted to danger. @Baratang, adrenaline has a way of making people do the impossible. At the time this was escaping from the car, he must have sensed that death itself was in that car. Those guys based on what they did to the poor lady must have been very intimidating, surely you can't fault this guy for saving his life with analysis of sijui how its not possible to do what.


@kanobi, yes that space is very important to an investigator as it may help them to assess the authenticity of the story of the journalist. I am trying to figure out how easily I can swallow a bolus of food with a three inches diameter while my throat can only expand to a maximum of two inches.
Do you know it is also important for the investigator to take the temperature of the corpse in order to determine at what time the murder may have been committed?
Mike Ock
#199 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 9:21:29 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/22/2015
Posts: 682
2012 wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
This will soon be forgotten and only close relatives will remember the fate of Sharon . The story will be interred with her broken body.


True. Nothing new here, learnings from some happenings from before with some statistic named Mercy Keino and some other gafana. Kenya moved on, DCI moved on, only the family remembers.

Ukweli usemwe, no one is going to jail here. The best the family can do is to ask for some money to settle the case. Otherwise judge na polisi ndio watalipwa wamalize kesi. Remember Kidero paid 200m to a judge to settle a case, that should be the target for the family.
Euge
#200 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 9:22:18 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/4/2008
Posts: 2,849
Location: Rupi
Baratang wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Baratang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
radio wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Pregnancy issue is a mask , a diversion and all seem to have swallowed the bait.

I am seeing some guys already wondering about how Barrack managed to jump out of a moving vehicle when he and the lady were sandwiched by the thugs.

I had wondered the same too, but quickly reminded myself I'm not the fittest guy around...


Though the road around where he jumped has very high bumps so could have been slowing the vehicle.


And Adrenaline!



Ok..let me figure out this one. Sandwiched between two strangers of ill intent,manage to wriggle out,open the door,jump out of the moving car, get hurt but still outpace the assailable to safety!!

What's the name of the movie?


Yah! It's easy to doubt everything when behind a computer and comfort ya..


Seems he knows more about what happened than the victim.



Now that the emotions have died down,can we have some answers?


So you want to say he sliced his own knees with a knife as part of a plot to defraud the gabana?



It is not like that @ hardwood. Look at it this way. For any ordinary salon car, the space between the front seat and the back rest of the back seat is about two and a half feet. The space between the front seat (when it is occupied) is just about a foot. When an adult passenger occupies the back seat, the space available between the front seat and the chest of the passenger is about one and a half foot while the space from the same is less than half a foot to the knee. This is the reason why if any passengers on back seat sitted between other passengers on the right and left hand side want to alight, those passengers on either extreme sides have to alight first in order to avail the necessary manouvring space for the alighting passenger because the space is too small.

Think about that first as we continue to unravel the mystery...

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you you are trying to describe the space behind I don't know backseat to explain what a person who was trying to save his life reacted to danger. @Baratang, adrenaline has a way of making people do the impossible. At the time this was escaping from the car, he must have sensed that death itself was in that car. Those guys based on what they did to the poor lady must have been very intimidating, surely you can't fault this guy for saving his life with analysis of sijui how its not possible to do what.


@kanobi, yes that space is very important to an investigator as it may help them to assess the authenticity of the story of the journalist. I am trying to figure out how easily I can swallow a bolus of food with a three inches diameter while my throat can only expand to a maximum of two inches.
Do you know it is also important for the investigator to take the temperature of the corpse in order to determine at what time the murder may have been committed?



Take the temparature of a corpse that has been frozen?
Lord, thank you!
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