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Jus Blazin wrote:I remember we complained the same way about Thika Road... In addition, people keep mixing up UG pipeline and UG railway line. Rwanda opted for TZ because UG prioritized Juba over Kigali. UG will still connect to our SGR. Also, has it been really confirmed that the fare will be 5k, or are we just being typical Kenyans? I like your points but still that's not enough justification for a project of that magnitude,you might have to add some more...
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Economist wrote:Although only a year remains before completion, not only are tariffs and rates undecided, but it is not even clear who will run the railway. Kenyan officials have apparently taken to skipping trade conferences of late to avoid answering questions. The chinese for the first 5 years Quote:Could this be because the new railway is a dud investment? Its fastest trains will do a fairly mediocre 80kph. Much as with the old railway, parts of the new line will be single-track, forcing trains to stop, often for hours, to let others pass. From this you can tell the writer thinks a trains run like cars, he doesnt seem to understand that in most cases trains operate in one track, and timing is everything. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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murchr wrote:Economist wrote:Although only a year remains before completion, not only are tariffs and rates undecided, but it is not even clear who will run the railway. Kenyan officials have apparently taken to skipping trade conferences of late to avoid answering questions. The chinese for the first 5 years Quote:Could this be because the new railway is a dud investment? Its fastest trains will do a fairly mediocre 80kph. Much as with the old railway, parts of the new line will be single-track, forcing trains to stop, often for hours, to let others pass. From this you can tell the writer thinks a trains run like cars, he doesnt seem to understand that in most cases trains operate in one track, and timing is everything. Coincidence? Reading of the "Lunatic Express" debate in the late 1890's? I prefer we have an expensive line constructed in our time than the old saying ""they" have never constructed an inch of rail since the we left" And, how does he say we can use 5% of the sgr sum in upgrading the old line "without compensation for new leave of way"? The curves in the old line are just too much for a moving machine ata at 20kmph!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn!
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Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. Truth forever on the scaffold
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. If thats the case then,why build a new line instead of widening the old? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Taurrus wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Taurrus wrote:Been wondering the difference between the old and SGR lines,to my surprise its ONLY the width, damn! yes, plus of more importance is that the current sgr line being laid can accommodate higher speeds than the older one. And higher load capacity Higher speeds yes,load capacity not quite. In general, the narrower the gage the more the restrictions while the broader the gauge the more the capacity. Metre Gauge allows 47 Kg load per metre of rail while Standard Gauge allows 60 Kg load per metre of rail. That's why america changed their gauges from sgr to broad gauge. If thats the case then,why build a new line instead of widening the old? Not that easy. The Metre gauge can withstand tough terrain which SG cant Truth forever on the scaffold
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