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Best Money Market fund in Kenya
ayushnehra
#191 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 10:25:14 PM
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Hey guys

I found the below site while in the UK. I think it is very informative and could be useful to existing and new investors/savers/borrowers in Kenya. Also a good opportunity to work with other financial institutions. could have fund details (yields/charges etc) plus bank products etc.. What are your thoughts on such a platform in Kenya?

https://www.money.co.uk/savings-accounts.htm




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Andre2000
#192 Posted : Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:53:31 PM
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ayushnehra wrote:
Hey guys

I found the below site while in the UK. I think it is very informative and could be useful to existing and new investors/savers/borrowers in Kenya. Also a good opportunity to work with other financial institutions. could have fund details (yields/charges etc) plus bank products etc.. What are your thoughts on such a platform in Kenya?

https://www.money.co.uk/savings-accounts.htm






Just to add this site for beginners is very comprehensive.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/investments/

In fact this site for almost anything buying property/insurance/flights ect for day to day living is the one of the most definitive resources in the UK.

Andrew
Ngogoyo
#193 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2018 5:03:49 PM
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mwenza wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
XSK wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
mchambuzi wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
If you are not in a hurry, you are better off buying NSE blue chips to the end of time..


why buy shares with dividend yields of 1-5% when you can get 8-10% on the money market without risking your capital


8-10%? Thats low, inflation is at 7.15% although in actual sense its usually much higher. That means you are making 2-3% gain. In shares you can make more from capital gains not just the dividends. I would opt for a portfolio of blue chip companies if I was risk averse


To make it easier, assume you had been buying SCOM, BAT and KCB shares over the past three years.

Look at the share price appreciation and dividend yield and that money market fund is exposed as a joke.


At that point the dividend yield was good 7-10% but right now the same stocks are over-valued e.g SCOM has p/e of 36(overvalued highest should be 18). That means you to wait 36 years. It's unlikely that company earnings will match up with those prices any time soon. For the record i bought my shares at rock bottom prices KCB 21, NIC 24, kengen 8.3 but I have taken capital gains and re-invested in money market. It depends on timing


@Mkonomtupu

Thanks for that education on the money market fund. Its basically a place to keep/park your money as you wait for an opportunity to strike! Meanwhile the money will not be losing value.


I assume I am talking to Wazua veterans here.

And where do we imagine these fund managers take your money? HAHA

Let us put this in perspective. After waiting 12 solid months, the fund promises me 8-10% in a country with 7% inflation at best and we are happy?

To put this to rest.

Buy KQ today 13.50, sell on 2015 FY announcement.

Buy NBK today 31.75, sell by March 2015.

Buy HFCK today 33.75, sell March 2015.

NB: Any negative NSE reaction on sign of fed tapering and sell the above before Sept 2014 for a lower re-entry.

We shall compare notes at this time next year OR before Sept 2014.

And just to hammer the point closer home, buy SCOM TODAY at 11.70/= and sell by this 2014 full year results in June therabouts. Between now and then, price appreciation estimate is 13.50, that is 15% up from TODAYs 'over valued' price for this GROWTH stock!! HAHA



I decided to check out your calculations over this lazy period
Assuming I had put in a million equally into your four stocks i.e. 250,000
KQ=250,000/13.5=18518*8.5=157,407
NBK=250,000/31.75=7874*24.5=190944
HF=250,000/33.75=7407*45=333333
Safcom=250,000/11.7=21367*14.05=300,213
Total =981,899
Money market=1,000,000*0.093(effective annual yield)=93000
Total=1,093,000


Just like you, have also decided to check out and update your calculations, after exactly 2yrs, during this lazy period:-

KQ = 18,518 X 4.90 = 90,738/=
NBK = 7874 X 16.55 = 130,314/=
HF = 7407 X 22.00 = 162,954/=
SCOM =21,367 X 16.10=344,008/=
TOTAL = 728,014/=

MMF= 1,093,000 X 1.093 = 1, 194,649/=

BE THE JUDGE!


KQ = 18,518 X 11.40 = 211,105/=
NBK = 7874 X 8.78 = 69,134/=
HF = 7407 X 10.83 = 80,218/=
SCOM =21,367 X 29.63 =633,104/=
TOTAL = 993,561/=

MMF= 1,194,649 X 1.093 = 1, 305, 751/=

HOTC
Stiffler
#194 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:20:40 PM
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Can we therefore conclude that Money Market Fund is better than NSE ....
S.Mutaga III
#195 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:35:20 PM
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I started this thread in 2014. I realized a long time ago that stocks are better investments than money market funds any day. The key is knowing what you are doing in the stock market. I would NEVER invest in a money market fund.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
wukan
#196 Posted : Friday, March 23, 2018 9:49:50 AM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
I started this thread in 2014. I realized a long time ago that stocks are better investments than money market funds any day. The key is knowing what you are doing in the stock market. I would NEVER invest in a money market fund.


Give a list of 4 stocks and the experiment can be repeated
tandich
#197 Posted : Friday, March 23, 2018 10:03:30 AM
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Has anyone used the Nabo Money Market Fund? Seems the best according to the Business Daily comparison of peers. However they don't pick calls or answer emails.
Stiffler
#198 Posted : Friday, March 23, 2018 10:28:14 AM
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tandich wrote:
Has anyone used the Nabo Money Market Fund? Seems the best according to the Business Daily comparison of peers. However they don't pick calls or answer emails.


Give link for the comparison
Stiffler
#199 Posted : Friday, March 23, 2018 10:35:01 AM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
I started this thread in 2014. I realized a long time ago that stocks are better investments than money market funds any day. The key is knowing what you are doing in the stock market. I would NEVER invest in a money market fund.


Give supporting figures ...
Coz what I have seen so far on this thread says otherwise....
Chaka
#200 Posted : Friday, March 23, 2018 1:53:33 PM
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The day you may need to liquidate urgently might change you view,i,e unless you have a fat bank balance to cater for an emergency..
S.Mutaga III wrote:
I started this thread in 2014. I realized a long time ago that stocks are better investments than money market funds any day. The key is knowing what you are doing in the stock market. I would NEVER invest in a money market fund.

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