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kaka2za
#191 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:30:40 PM
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Ati michezo ilianza na industrial revolution? The ancient west African kingdoms of Ghana and Songhai used to hold wrestling festivals in 1650s!
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masukuma
#192 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:21:17 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Ati michezo ilianza na industrial revolution? The ancient west African kingdoms of Ghana and Songhai used to hold wrestling festivals in 1650s!

Amini usiamini... utaAmini... modern sport has a nexus with industrialisation! While Ancient societies developed sport for practical tasks linked to survival, such as military training. Industrial workers engaged in sport to cope with the pains of urbanization and harsh working conditions, while their employers and rulers encouraged sports as a means of social control.

There are other references here. Remember the term is "modern sports" akina football, rugby, cricket, darts, basketball e.t.c. Their spread is also a result of industrialization... The resurgence of the Olympics e.t.c have everything to do with industrialization (can be considered a fruit of industrialization) .... wrestling and ajua are primitive sports. My opinion... Trying to capitalize on sports for a developing nation is trying to do KCSE while in Std 4! I would suggest you copy paste models and processes of development and not try and recreate fruits of development. Of course you have a finite amount of resources to do all that you want to do - be smart prioritize! Sio... oh... Cricket... Oh... cycling...Oh... Rugby... Oh... Volleyball... Oh Football ... Oh... Chess...Oh Athletics... Oh... Boxing.... Oh ...some random sport that we can engage in! I remember we had some participants in the winter games sometime back! Should we compete in winter games? Should we compete in all sports available? Should we win all medals? I am sure there is a guy passionate about Sumo wrestling... should we spend tax payers money in ensuring that he is the best that he can be? I dare say... lipeni waalimu kwanza!
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TAZ
#193 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:21:37 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Does the govt fund any sport in Kenya.

(Buying tickets and accommodation to attend a global event is not funding so please don't mention that)


This was in one of the dailies in Feb this year

Quote:
In a move aimed at improving the management of sports in the country, Cabinet Secretary for Sports, Culture and the Arts Hassan Wario has also stopped funding to organisations and teams affiliated to the said federations.

“All affected Sports Organisations should therefore not participate in any national, regional and international competitions. They are also not eligible for funding and financial support, especially from the Exchequer through the Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts,”


Btw a National Sports Fund board with members drawn from various sports entities was unveiled last year but i'm not sure if they've managed to raise any funds.
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Kratos
#194 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:54:40 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Hapa kuna watu wanapenda kujaza foolscap bure!

some interesting points if at all you care to read


Cool your nyees munene, that was meant on a light note.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Alba
#195 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:33:38 PM
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Reaching the world cup should never be the criteria for whether a government provides funding.

Sometimes a government simply provides facilities as a way to provide social services. This is what the colonial government did when they built football grounds like Woodley and Jericho grounds.

Reaching the world cup should never be the criteria that determines whether a government should provide social services. You can prioritze based on other more useful criteria.

Any government that chooses to punish footballers and football fans for something that is not their fault is asking for trouble. Folks football is popular. There is a reason why politicians as far back as Jomo Kenyatta made it a point to attend football matches.
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masukuma
#196 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:10:29 PM
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Alba wrote:
Reaching the world cup should never be the criteria for whether a government provides funding.

Sometimes a government simply provides facilities as a way to provide social services. This is what the colonial government did when they built football grounds like Woodley and Jericho grounds.

Reaching the world cup should never be the criteria that determines whether a government should provide social services. You can prioritze based on other more useful criteria.

Any government that chooses to punish footballers and football fans for something that is not their fault is asking for trouble. Folks football is popular. There is a reason why politicians as far back as Jomo Kenyatta made it a point to attend football matches.

Haya tuendelee na excuses.
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Alba
#197 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 12:23:28 AM
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masukuma wrote:

Haya tuendelee na excuses.



What excuses are you talking about?
I see you have a habit of just posting one liners or sarcasm that do not in any way address the issues raised.
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masukuma
#198 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 8:44:58 AM
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Alba wrote:
masukuma wrote:

Haya tuendelee na excuses.



What excuses are you talking about?
I see you have a habit of just posting one liners or sarcasm that do not in any way address the issues raised.

Refer to the 1st set of posts I made on this Matter.
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Museveni
#199 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 12:18:11 PM
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Harambee Stars players to be axed in wake of ‘sex orgy’ reports

NN wrote:
“The time has come for us to make big decisions. Some so called big name players are not only contributing very little to the team’s cause, but are consistently destabilizing the team from within with serious discipline cases,”
No points for correct guess.
NN wrote:

“The security guards at the hotel will tell you that this team should not have played Zambia. We should have awarded the visitors a walkover. Our players went on partying and drinking and normally returned back to the hotel late in the company of visitors,”


NN wrote:
“We can learn from Zambia, who gave debuts to upto four players when we played them, including one player from the country’s second division,”
Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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TAZ
#200 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 11:39:27 PM
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Museveni wrote:
Harambee Stars players to be axed in wake of ‘sex orgy’ reports

NN wrote:
“The time has come for us to make big decisions. Some so called big name players are not only contributing very little to the team’s cause, but are consistently destabilizing the team from within with serious discipline cases,”
No points for correct guess.
NN wrote:

“The security guards at the hotel will tell you that this team should not have played Zambia. We should have awarded the visitors a walkover. Our players went on partying and drinking and normally returned back to the hotel late in the company of visitors,”


NN wrote:
“We can learn from Zambia, who gave debuts to upto four players when we played them, including one player from the country’s second division,”


Halafu we are here blaming management sijui funding!
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