Be honest , Mr G4S , How much did they pay you to come and say this here?

Thanks@mwenza. I know this topic generates a lot of heat and emotions. I don’t expect concurrence because the topic has seen Kenyans take extreme/hardline positions based on political inclinations/tribe etc. I just feel like something is not right somehow….As I noted earlier, I am totally againist what the gava does, including the Bashir visit. My point is, maybe we were/are too angry to see where the real problem is.I want justice for the PEV victims. ICC will only go for the top guys-and not all of them-two or three.The rest might end up going scot free, including the foot soldiers. I believe our institutions are capable of handling these fellows. If we can get the political will.so we need to clean up our politics once and for all. At least we are trying we have a new constitution so let’s take the chance. Though we are party to ICC, We are a country that has structures in place. I know some guys don’t want to hear about sovereignity,but I can tell you it’s a good thing. Look at our colleagues in the ICC List-Sudan, Central Africa republic, Uganda (Joseph Kony) DRC,do you seriously think we belong to that group?. The problems will remain until we face them head on and start by being responsible citizens and electing responsible leaders.


@ ‘newfarer’ and your fellow ’members’ …. Wacheni Matusi.

@Jaina - I'm very sorry for what happened to you and your family. Every time I personally meet a victim of the PEV I'm totally overcome. Some people only see the victims on TV but when you meet a person who explains to you their personal experience and how their lives have turned upside ever since, you have to have a heart made of stone not to shed a tear or two. What happened to you should never happen to any Kenyan. Pole sana.

Having said that, I believe the best way is for Ocampo to take his main culprits and then we can deal with the rest. Most people have been advocating for two parallel systems. Hague for the politicians, financiers, planners and other such like people. Local for the rest. If the 'big shots' are left to the Kenyan system then you can bet the victims - like yourself - will never get justice. When we get the big guys out, then the rest will remain exposed and we can deal with them under the existing laws. There are laws to deal with murderers, rapists, arsonists, armed robbers, looters etc. All we need is a number of courts [and judges] to deal exclusively with such cases for the next couple of years.

Justice must be done and MUST BE SEEN TO HAVE BEEN DONE. If the ICC was to do any meaningful work in Kenya, it must start where the chaos started before arresting the people who retaliated with force to stop their own from being slaughtered like chicken as the rest of the nation watched and sometimes cheered on (does anyone remember episodes in Kericho? Kipkelion? Bomet? Molo? Waylaying on Nakuru Kisumu road?).
Justice must be blind to 2012 politics. The attacks at Naivasha happened on Jan 28th 2008 (if i can remember correctly), but more attacks happened a between 31st Jan and 27th that forced people to react. Now before arresting and persecuting the bulk of people in-charge of Jan 28th matters - arrest the aggressors first, work on them and then arrest retaliators. It would be silly to arrest 6 people (5 of them from central Kenya and 1 from rift valley) and claim you have caught the head of the snake and WISH that PEV will not happen again, coz you will only have sent a signal that people can get away with aggressive offenses but never with defensive offenses.