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Behind the wall of marriage
aidha
#21 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:46:12 PM
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us men we have an attitude of being polygamous and this is affecting our families because even our women are going without checking in the name of rebelling.

I am not married yet but i believe if you bring a third party between you and your partner then you are doomed.
2012
#22 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:13:31 PM
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The problem with this generation is we confuse a wedding for marriage. That's why after the wedding everything goes back to normal, the guy goes back to his 'buddies' and the lady goes back to her 'girlfriends'.
You'll need to get new MARRIED friends and cut off some pals completely while keeping others at bay or else your marriage will not survive. If you have a married friend of questionable qualities eg when you did a guys trip to Naivasha he came with Susan instead of mama Carol, huyo cut-off without second thoughts if your marriage is still young.

BBI will solve it
:)
smano
#23 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:49:37 PM
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I'm not married but I'm seriously becoming very cynical about the whole thing and wondering whether I'll hack it, like setting yourself up to fail in the belief that you tried but circumstances dictated otherwise...

While not all of MK's call - ins might be true, the fact, as @Mukhamba rightly points out, is that these things (and worse) are happening as we type away...@Pondi even gives a shocking but poignant example of the horrors behind the walls...

The other day @Muchknow talked about the way it has become sort of cool (not for everyone of course)in Kenyan society to do the wrong thing from drunk driving (did you guys see the email of the accident that happened on Langáta road on 2nd July at 6am, Merc rammed into a lorry and killed all four/five occupants?) to cheating on your partner...

I think we are headed the wrong way as a society and something drastic needs to give!
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vin
#24 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:03:08 PM
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I think marriage is like a house.You sit and chart a plan with your other half and always leave some room for emotions to run.Never lose your head in a marriage because you will as well lose the marriage.
Advice is like snow.The softer it lands the harder is sticks.
Mtu Biz
#25 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:12:41 PM
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Oh brother!

What a thread.... what a generation.

We claim to have answered all the questions, then turn around and ask them all over again.
With all the pop psychology out there and all the information on five steps to improve this and ten steps for a better that, we are not any better than the animals.

We will be ever learning but never coming to acknowledge the TRUTH.

I exhort you to ask the right questions... what are the right questions ?

The big ones!

If you do not get the big questions right, the small questions will baffle you.

Ask yourself..

Why are we here in the first place ?

Where did we come from? Where are we going?

Is there life after death?

Where are the answers ?

What is the TRUTH?

The moment you drop your act and start a serious pursuit of truth, you will find it.




Sola Scriptura


atiriri
#26 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:37:17 PM
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@Vin

Before you try it, you may think it is as easy as ABCD. Know that these are two different people raised by different parents in different environment. They have decided to stay together when they are already adults. Adults whom you cant change.
The Real Shaft
#27 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:45:15 PM
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marriage...

like life...

is what you make it to be....


a. If you are not ready to commit yourself....

then do not ask your partner to remain faithful...


b. if you want want an adulterous marriage...

then be ready to share your matrimonial bed....


c. if you want a lasting relationship...

you know what not to do....



d. if you want to whine about everything...

then do not use your wife as an excuse....


e. if you do not want to have children...

then do not make babies.....


it is quite simple....



but DO NOT use other people....

as your excuse...

BE MORE RESPONSIBLE.....
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
xyzee
#28 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:07:23 PM
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Marriage has 4 stages....4 Ds of marriage

1. Dream
Mostly when dating and the first years of marriage. This is the time when love is at it's peak. also known as 'HONEY MOON STAGE'


2. Drama
Honey moon is over reality checks in. you begin to notice things about your partner that you dont quite agree with. boredom checks in, spending time with your boys/girls is more interesting than being with your mate.
MOST RELATIONSHIPS/MARRIAGES BREAK AT THIS POINT
Mpango wa kando also starts here.

3. Discovery
You begin to understand your man/woman. e.g maybe the reason he preferes spending time with the boyz is because iam always nagging him about this or the other etc......... Hence a change in atitude/approach
OR some times you realize you have kids together hence separation may not be a good option.

SOME WILL CHOOSE TO CHANGE THEIR ATITUDE HANCE PROGRESS TO THE NEXT STAGE, BUT SOME DECIDE TO LIVE WITH THE PROBLEM, HENCE LIVE AN AVERAGE LIFE NEITHER HAPPY NOR SAD JUST THERE..

4. Destiny
You fall in love again only that this time you are wiser and will be able to avoid certain mistakes.....AND YOU LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER
Have you noticed that most of our grandparents/parents are happy with each other?

MARRIAGE CAN BE ENJOYABLE IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH TO 'DESTINY' AND BY THE WAY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE 30 YEARS EVEN 5 YEARS IS POSSIBLE
XSK
#29 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:44:01 PM
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xyzee wrote:
Marriage has 4 stages....4 Ds of marriage

1. Dream
Mostly when dating and the first years of marriage. This is the time when love is at it's peak. also known as 'HONEY MOON STAGE'


2. Drama
Honey moon is over reality checks in. you begin to notice things about your partner that you dont quite agree with. boredom checks in, spending time with your boys/girls is more interesting than being with your mate.
MOST RELATIONSHIPS/MARRIAGES BREAK AT THIS POINT
Mpango wa kando also starts here.

3. Discovery
You begin to understand your man/woman. e.g maybe the reason he preferes spending time with the boyz is because iam always nagging him about this or the other etc......... Hence a change in atitude/approach
OR some times you realize you have kids together hence separation may not be a good option.

SOME WILL CHOOSE TO CHANGE THEIR ATITUDE HANCE PROGRESS TO THE NEXT STAGE, BUT SOME DECIDE TO LIVE WITH THE PROBLEM, HENCE LIVE AN AVERAGE LIFE NEITHER HAPPY NOR SAD JUST THERE..

4. Destiny
You fall in love again only that this time you are wiser and will be able to avoid certain mistakes.....AND YOU LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER
Have you noticed that most of our grandparents/parents are happy with each other?

MARRIAGE CAN BE ENJOYABLE IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH TO 'DESTINY' AND BY THE WAY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE 30 YEARS EVEN 5 YEARS IS POSSIBLE


xyzee

This seems more of a dream than reality...Challenges never stop.
You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
xyzee
#30 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:52:36 PM
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@XSK

Agreed challenges never stop however you will have grown wiser and more in sync with each other, so you can handle them in a better way.
MaichBlack
#31 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:12:01 PM
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This discussion reminds me of some quotable quotes:-

A dude was asked about about the secret to his long marriage and he said:
My wife and I eat out six days a week. She eats out on Mondays, Wednesdays & Fridays and I eat out on Tuesdays, Thursdays & Saturdays
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Person 1: My wife made me a millionaire.
Person 2: Oh, that's nice. What were you before you married her?
Person 1: A billionaire!!!
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And the one that carries the day...
****************************************************************************************
My wife and I were happy for 25 years........And then we met!!!
****************************************************************************************
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
dsgnplus
#32 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 10:38:22 AM
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Read Somewhere cant remember where that the perfect marriage is where the husband is deaf while the wife is blind.
On a serious note though I think present day couples have become intolerant of each other.There is too much brinkmanship from either side and the whole setup looks like the 'politics in kenya'.

It may seem uphill, or plain impossible but it really is possible to be in a happy marriage. Just Use Your Head.Pray
Alo
#33 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 11:27:15 AM
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I believe Marriage is what you make it. Putting God as the Head of the Marriage makes all the difference. Sorting your problems as a couple instead of involving outsiders is a plus point. Your wife is nagging? Sit her down and talk to her, tell her what you like or dislike, work on communication skills as a couple. The big cause of major problems in marriages right now is the too much involvement of "outsiders" and comparing ones marriage or lifestyle with someone's else. I believe in not letting our marital issues leave the bedroom door. Contain them within the walls of your bedroom. I know at times things may really be thick, but then the key is communication and prayer between the two. Change comes from within. If you feel your partner is the problem then maybe try looking at yourself first and change where you feel you also go wrong, then sit back and watch... "A family that prays together stays together."
"A woman's heart should be so hidden in Christ that a man should have to seek Him first to find her."
atiriri
#34 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 12:33:01 PM
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@ Aloo
I agree with you but again there are some couples out there who will never have time to sit down with the partner to discuss on anything. From what you have said i think attitude also matter a lot. How do you deal with the financial part?
bwenyenye
#35 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 1:38:29 PM
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Good People,

Let me start by saying that I believe in marriage.I am grateful for my spouse ( or is it spice) and would marry her again if I could.

Radio is full of lies.These guys must keep their shows on air or else they lose their jobs. Those call-ins are stage-managed! If you want to know about investing, then go to an investor! The same goes for marriage. Do not look for advise from guys who are even romoured to be sockets. Come to us who are married,let us talk and you watch. Yes we do fight but guess what, we end up better. Marriage would have ended eons ago if it was not that good.

For those guys who want to get married, 'watoto wazuri wapo. tena ndio wengi.
I Think Therefore I Am
Alo
#36 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 2:13:59 PM
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@atiriri,

As for my husband and i have no financial secrets, i know how his payslip looks like he knows mine, we draft our budgets together. We are very transparent with one another on all issues. No secrets among us (Wife & Hubby) . Outsiders know nothing about our issues which we have learnt to solve amicably. I still Insist on involving God in everything because we can't do anything on our own.
"A woman's heart should be so hidden in Christ that a man should have to seek Him first to find her."
MaichBlack
#37 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 2:32:19 PM
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Alo wrote:
...i know how his payslip looks like he knows mine...

River road wanaprint Degrees, title deeds, log books ni payslip tu?
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
jguru
#38 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 3:55:38 PM
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I think what breaks most marriages nowadays, is the wife "wanting to wear the trousers in the house". Domestic dramas lead to loss of respect between the wife and the husband. A lady needs to be a tad submissive to the gentleman for a marriage to survive.
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
Ray
#39 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 4:27:03 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Alo wrote:
...i know how his payslip looks like he knows mine...

River road wanaprint Degrees, title deeds, log books ni payslip tu?


Stop sowing in doubts into her heart.Although it could be true.
Which payslip would you give your wife? The Original /Edited copy from River Road?
atiriri
#40 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 4:31:26 PM
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And the man should respect the lady of the house. I have seen cases where us men we invite the so called mistresses to our matrimonial bed when our wives are away. Or we bring them in the name of relatives in the house. Can trust still exist after the lady of the house has discovered?
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