wazua Thu, Apr 9, 2026
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

1,586 Pages<1234>»
Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Gatheuzi
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:55:50 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/16/2009
Posts: 994
The 2.2bn drop in operating profit is partly due to the implementation of the collective bargaining agreement which lead to increased staff costs by 2.1bn.

Cabin factor dropped to 67% from 71% as a result of more aircrafts being available.

As part of their fleet modernization plan, the new aircraft is suppossed to be more fuel efficient (it is worth noting that the bulk of the costs are fuel related). - too bad Boeing is taking too long to deliver.
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
the deal
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:35:57 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
VituVingiSana wrote:
The poor margins at KQ are depressing... and the lower margins from year to year as well... BUT there are not apples to apples...

KQ has changed the way it accounted for hedges (according to some IAS rule)...

However you slice & dice it... KQ needs to put up some serious 1Q 2010-11 passenger numbers as well as awesome 1H 2010-11 financial figures!

When is the AGM?

25-06-2010
Govmusili
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:25:08 AM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 1/13/2010
Posts: 85
Location: Nairobi
phew!!! it seems theres a god after all today it seems to be holding its ground, lets wait 4 it
cnn
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:26:08 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/17/2009
Posts: 1,627
@the deal ,i dont think the AGM is that soon,more like 24/09/2010
ProverB
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:28:05 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 3/12/2010
Posts: 1,199
Location: Eastlander
qw25041985 wrote:
I dont see why people are panicin about kQ's weak margins.If they posted weak magrins in very robust economies then there might be a reason to be concernd.But that isnot clearly the case.a couple of few years back the economy wasnt in the greatest shape so KQ shld be pardond.Atleast it didnt post record losses like BA.

.

Please note..i have not said do NOT buy KQ..just pointed out their core business fortunes are fading.
The core business is what defines the investment prospect.. KQ's core business has not been good over time..their making money on fuel derivatives though profitable... is not part of their core business..they may as well just quit air travel and go full on commodity trading if this fuel thingy seems so awesome!! Laughing out loudly
sliding margins imply management is out of their depth..no matter how good plans are they do not seem to have capacity to stem dropping margins!
But for share traders..bulk of decision to buy on sell is founded on investor behavior and ignorance..thus why "6 months down the line they will be rushing in"
As solid investment option.. Kq has alot to explain
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
the deal
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:18:38 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
ProverB wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
I dont see why people are panicin about kQ's weak margins.If they posted weak magrins in very robust economies then there might be a reason to be concernd.But that isnot clearly the case.a couple of few years back the economy wasnt in the greatest shape so KQ shld be pardond.Atleast it didnt post record losses like BA.

.

Please note..i have not said do NOT buy KQ..just pointed out their core business fortunes are fading.
The core business is what defines the investment prospect.. KQ's core business has not been good over time..their making money on fuel derivatives though profitable... is not part of their core business..they may as well just quit air travel and go full on commodity trading if this fuel thingy seems so awesome!! Laughing out loudly
sliding margins imply management is out of their depth..no matter how good plans are they do not seem to have capacity to stem dropping margins!
But for share traders..bulk of decision to buy on sell is founded on investor behavior and ignorance..thus why "6 months down the line they will be rushing in"
As solid investment option.. Kq has alot to explain

its one of the reasons we sell...declining margins...if 1Q passenger nos dissapoint due to the ash...we will stare @ 20 bob..
VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:33:08 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,366
Location: Nairobi
Nope to 20/-... coz at that price I will pull all stops out to buy!
KQ has 6 billion+ in cash (14/- in cash)... So the rest is worth only 6/-?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
qw25041985
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:35:17 AM
Rank: User

Joined: 5/9/2010
Posts: 1,418
Location: Nai
Ati 20/= ? If it reachd these levels . I wld sell all my portfolio just to get into KQ. Its that serious. Lol. And guys , those who understand candlesticks in technical analysis is a reversal on KQ soon. Can i say 2day, it'll be up ?
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:49:13 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,366
Location: Nairobi
No more 20/-... already trading steady to up today with plenty of buyers ready at 50/-...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Chaka
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:04:03 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,114
@proverb
Can you start another thread and indicate NSE companies whose operating margins have been going up year on year?
1,586 Pages<1234>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2026 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.