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KENYANS, LISTEN TO THE MEN OF GOD, THEY HAVE A CASE
bkismat
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:42:18 PM
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Comment: Goebbels is often credited with having a sharp intelligence, but his was an intelligence malformed by the cunning, cynicism and opportunism of a master propagandist. The creation and promulgation of propaganda was turned into an "art" in Goebbels' hands. He would have been quite capable of arguing that black was white, and of convincing his audience that it really was so, or at least implanting a germ of doubt. Some say that Goebbels never actually lied, just exaggerated the truth. But Goebbels embraced Hitler's theory that a big lie was often more credible than a smaller one.

The Third Reich has gone, but propaganda remains with us, influencing us daily in the press, on radio and television, and on the internet. The loaded messages from politicians, analysts, pundits, journalists, pollsters, economists, clerics, industry, commerce, unions, political parties, lobby groups, public relations firms - the whole propaganda diaspora - are not as integrated as in Goebbels' fascist state, but the effect is just as pernicious and misleading. But this is all just another message with a load.
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nanfor1
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:15:35 PM
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ati Nigeria. Good grief. We really need to change our education system. Instead of reading history books, we go to kesha. aii.

bkismat...that was great.
Hata wakizima taa
masukuma
#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:17:17 PM
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..it may be propaganda, but think before you act. All the church is asking is for parliament - the house that can amend any law of the land. to amend the constitution review act 2008 to extend time and take the document back to parliament thus not risk throwing out the baby and the bath water. Voting NO!! is plan B if the first fails.
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kingfisher
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:20:19 PM
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i do not give a damn whether it is called kadhi courts or otherwise...I will vote NO as long as there is anything remotely making one religion superior over the other in the constitution; one community superior that the others in the constitution!!

@masukuma, I am with you in this. Tell these "hasters" to remember the saying "Give the Camel an inch and he'll take an ell"....The kadhi's got an inch at independence, they made it a kilometer in '67. Today (2010) they want a mile....tomorrow when they come calling again you know what they will be asking for.

Time to stop it is now!!
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Fundaah
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:24:53 PM
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masukuma wrote:
... All the church is asking is for parliament - the house that can amend any law of the land. to amend the constitution review act 2008 to extend time and take the document back to parliament thus not risk throwing out the baby and the bath water. Voting NO!! is plan B if the first fails.
.....

but can the Mps pass the ammendments in unison....You saw what happened to the 130 ammendments proposed by the Mps?....

Kenyans did not fight because of Kadhis court in 2007....the real problems we have in Kenya are political ...the draft tries to address these...Imagine going to 2012 elections without a new constitution.....@ Masukuma that is how desperately Kenyans deserve the draft...

Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
nanfor1
#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:36:08 PM
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masukuma just vote No. Let the majority win. That is the constitution not another morality issue.
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masukuma
#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:05:21 PM
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@nanfor1, touché..so stop complaining about the clergy!! they represent a constituency.
@Fundaa, you are just being optimistic - the fellows in Rift Valley who started the fight are not happy (for reasons best known to themselves). Bado tu watu watachapwa!!
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