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Time Kenya Had An International Airport Near Nairobi?
aemathenge
#21 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 2:24:00 PM
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Pleasure is taking the Makutano to Meru road. Remember the days the matatus went on strike because they were being forced to take the Michuki Pill. I understand there are fish in the Nairobi river. So, what is so special about these airports?
B.Timer
#22 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 2:38:07 PM
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Any concrete evidence of negligence is welcome.

In the face of that I will be the first to advocate for reprimand for Muhoho or whoever else was napping.

Rumours and long winded speculation should not be used to administer street 'justice' to anybody.

In the way it has been run since the current team took over, how does Jkia compare to its peers.

Further if for every hitch, we were to cry for blood, no CEO would be left standing.
I prefer to look at the bigger picture - the balance sheet'.

Hata kwa nyumba ikiwa utakosana na bibi sababu maziwa ya mtoto imwemwagika, hutokaa na bibi.
Dunia ni msongamano..
simonkabz
#23 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 2:44:05 PM
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Im n wil never be a muhoho apologist, oh my how I hate that geezer! Bt kularaha blaming him 4 a technical hitch without a single xplanation is grossly misleading. Can someone tell us exactly wot transpired? What I dnt like are blind shouts without any backup. Lay the facts bare. Btw JKIA must b having one of the best backup system in Kenya. What really happened must have been beyond backup issues. Just like a car that loses the alternator...the battery kicks in. Bt if the problem is the wiring, or a broken shaft...the car wont go anywhere n the batt wont be of any use!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Mkimwa
#24 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 3:00:33 PM
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One thing av learnt about being at the top is that you are ultimately responsible for all sorts of successes/dismeanors in the company/organization you top. Therefore you take all the credit for things gone right, and blame for all things gone wrong. You can chose to cascade these down your organization, but you remain responsible, moreso to stakeholders. Thats why CEOs are paid the big bucks, and not the technician whose system didn't work as it should.

Who do you think Kibaki called on Wednesday?
aemathenge
#25 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 3:04:42 PM
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Some thing is wrong with the operational systems, Period.

To quote a jaded cliche, the buck stops with Father Muhoho. Who do we blame for the whole political mess in this Country? H.E. Emilio Mwai Kibaki.

Did Hon. Michuki wear a police uniform and make the "Michuki" rules stick? No. He put systems in place and backed them up with guts. I even do not remember seeing him with a broom sweeping the Nairobi River

I do not need evidence of wrong doing or "facts" to lay the blame on Father Muhoho. A number of people are complaining. That is enough for me to judge him guilty in the court of public opinion. My opinion.
simonkabz
#26 Posted : Saturday, December 12, 2009 1:58:56 PM
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@mathenge, the same way u would blame that bus driver for a burst tyre, injector pump gone bonkers, broken tierod etc. Very very clever indeed!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
JkMwatha
#27 Posted : Saturday, December 12, 2009 7:41:37 PM
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@skabz - driver not the boss (in charge) of the bus . He's the driver...
Muhoho is the boss of KAA. He is in-charge...and ultimately responsible.
Jay R
#28 Posted : Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:07:50 AM
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@ all, Guys stop it.
It doesn't read like any of you.
when i see my purple, you see it not!
KulaRaha
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:42:52 PM
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So now? Still think it's well run?? Poor management getting blamed??
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
VituVingiSana
#30 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:37:50 AM
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JKIA runway lights out of service AGAIN... 3rd time in 6 months. Ati, 'international airport'

How much is muhoho pocketing?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
muganda
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:17:50 AM
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Time always tells. It seems here is again a classic case of Kenyans accepting Kenya as it is - enough is enough!

Let me tell you, it's now evident that the guys should have been fired before they could say 'washa taa'. That's how it's done in leading companies in Kenya, and leading economies elsewhere. It's nothing personal, just business and the reputation of Kenya.

VituVingiSana
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:05:54 AM
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@simonkabz & B.Timer: Any thoughts on the xmas present from KAA/JKIA to KQ & other passengers?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwanahisa
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:27:05 AM
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I am with KR on this one. If Muhoho, his board and top mgt cannot fix the problem(s), they have to take responsibility and GO!
VituVingiSana
#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:24:01 AM
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NOTAM (Notice to Air Men) from Kenya Civil Aviation Authority notifying all the airlines that use JKIA that the runway threshold lights at (JKIA) do not meet the minimum requirements for a safe night operations as required by ICAO.(International Civil Aviation Organization)

As a result of this and in conformity with their (Kenya Airways safety standards) they have decided to suspend all night operation into and out of JKIA.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Intelligentsia
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:26:42 AM
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A whole regional hub has no Business Continuity Managemnt programme? No back-up for such a strategic national asset that JKIA is? And it won some funny quality award recently!

How much are airlines losing from delayed/ cancelled passenger and cargo traffic? And more so at such a critical time when families from abroad are re-uniting via flights! How much bashing is the reputation of jkia -and by extension,Kenya - getting from this crap?

This is exactly what my argument was about before some people misconstrued it to mean that I was suggesting we get a 3rd airport merely because runway traffic lights had malfunctioned at JKIA. The issue was broader than that as is now evident - if we had a 3rd airport the traffic would merely have been diverted to it. JKIA is a regional hub, it doesn't need an alternate/back-up - it actually demands it.

The faster we see the backs of granpa Muhoho & co.the better for such a strategic asset as JKIA.

VituVingiSana
#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:52:45 PM
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ISO 9002 - KAA got certified in how to mismanage an airport in the most efficient way possible!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
shalishali
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:14:49 PM
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Who could be thier ISO auditors? The Auditors I've had experience with act tough and demand records on implementation of Standard operating procedures and work instructions, do thiers do the same? Ati KAA ISO,ha!
UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
muganda
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:00:32 PM
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Latest Update:
Kenya Airways Resumes Night Flights at Jomo Kenyatta International Airport
Wednesday, 23rd December 2009 - Kenya Airways would like to inform all its esteemed customers and stakeholders that it has resumed night operations into and out of Jomo Kenyatta International Airport. (JKIA)
VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:16:30 AM
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http://twitpic.com/us8q0

The KAA website was/(is?) also down...!

http://www.kenyaairports.co.ke/
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
slammers
#40 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 3:42:20 AM
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I bet father muhoho is to blame for this bt we should first crucify the direct management of jkia
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