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Property Auctions - Making a Killing.
Kaigangio
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:09:00 AM
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@ sasha,

I have seen a case where the auctioneer did the sale but the buyers could not have the property transfered into their names until the legality of the sale was determined by the court. this happened in Kiambu...the full details of what transpired between the original owners,the buyers and the court,those ones i cant tell coz idont know...but like i said anything is possible right here in kenya,just as long as you have the money..


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Mwafrikah
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:02:00 AM
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there is no harm in participating in auctioned properties since fate has it that the would be 'owners' are not in a position to service the loans they had borrowed from banks and for one reason or the other no conscience can be forfeited for anyone's fate

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wekaweka
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:03:00 PM
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This is an interesting discussion,i would only refrain to buy land from auctioneers especially if the land is located in Meru or Kisii. But i' m looking for a second hand Lorry and i don't mind one through auctioneers. Sasha does your brother have one?
half_empty
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:40:00 PM
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no way.... unless i am buying to sell... no way i will be sitting comfy in an auction house while the displaced owner and his kin hate me to the marrow .... everyday praying for my demise.... its bad karma... buying a car is one thing... you drive away into the sunset but not property... remember this is kenya where thugs for hire are a dime a dozen... nothing the law can do about it
Wini the pooh
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:41:00 PM
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This is some business i would not hesitate doing....i think the question is,can one protect themselves from such people who even after their property has been auctioned would be reluctant to part with the docs....?

If i can protect myself from them,then i wouldn't mind doing the business. I have heard from people that it can be good. even in buying cars and house furniture
adept
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:51:00 PM
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I would buy anything else from an auction except real estate. I can relate to @Kaigangio's concern because I too have a relative (separate gene pool! hehe) that has tried to give hell to the new owner of a house that his bank sold following loan repayment default.

I would rather pay for real estate through my nose and sleep soundly thereafter than get a rock-bottom bargain and end up with restless nights after getting caught up in the cross-hairs of a fight that has nothing to do with me or my kin.

Maybe the approach for real estate would be to buy and dispose off at a profit almost immediately (you know,the KANU thing?) assuming you bought it at a ridiculous bargain and the documentation is air tight.
Bobb
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:22:00 PM
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Do the business bwana. Some go as low as 2M . You use like 200k to renovate and sell it at 3.8 or even 4M.

BOBB
pops
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:52:00 PM
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my learned friends these auctions are all stage managed to get the best prices that the auctioneer can get. believe me you will not be able to bid fairly and buy a property unless you have cut a deal with the auctioneer before hand where u give him a percentage in advance to be favoured,and the balance is what you bid for. thats why the auction prices seem low,but in reality you pay more. trust me,i have been in the business for long. if you want to buy something,go and see the auctioneer first to cut a deal,then work out if its really worth the value. normally banks pass information onto their prefered clients long before the property is even advertised in the papers,and the auctioneers have already made the deals. that way the bank guy makes a cut and so does the auctioneer,and the client get his property using the same bank finance,so bank makes money also. that way everyone happy!
Kaigangio
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:07:00 PM
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@ pops,

i dont get it...suppose i went to the auctioneer for property which i would like to spend say 2m. i cut the deal and hand the auctioneer again say 300k. this leaves the maximum bid from me of 1.7m. supposing during the material day another bidder bids 2.2m. where does that leave me???? Does it mean that the auctioneer will ignore the higher bid in my favour...highly unlikely.




NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
skatotsi
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:49:00 PM
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Hi All,we discussed this some time back,it's high time some of us together with auctioneers set up a website to sell these properties to a wider market,just like it happens in most developed countries. This way the owners would have a chance to get more,the buyers would compete fairly,the bank would get the right money and the corrupt ones would have to look somewhere else for their shady deals.

Just a thought.


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