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It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity?
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My 2 cents wrote:It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,091
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xtina wrote:My 2 cents wrote:It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,371 Location: Nairobi
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My 2 cents wrote:xtina wrote:My 2 cents wrote:It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap. Some firms' have DYs that are similar to bonds! Let's say you get (net) 9% DY (for a good firm) vs (net) 12% (Interest for a 5-year T-Bond) then the difference is only 3% which is 17% (compounded) over 5 years. There is a good chance that the firm to grow its EPS and DPS which does not happen with Bonds. The valuations (PER) could also increase giving an investor a much better Total Return by 2027. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,318 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:My 2 cents wrote:xtina wrote:My 2 cents wrote:It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap. Some firms' have DYs that are similar to bonds! Let's say you get (net) 9% DY (for a good firm) vs (net) 12% (Interest for a 5-year T-Bond) then the difference is only 3% which is 17% (compounded) over 5 years. There is a good chance that the firm to grow its EPS and DPS which does not happen with Bonds. The valuations (PER) could also increase giving an investor a much better Total Return by 2027. KPC to list on the NSE in next 111 days COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,819 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:My 2 cents wrote:xtina wrote:My 2 cents wrote:It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap. Some firms' have DYs that are similar to bonds! Let's say you get (net) 9% DY (for a good firm) vs (net) 12% (Interest for a 5-year T-Bond) then the difference is only 3% which is 17% (compounded) over 5 years. There is a good chance that the firm to grow its EPS and DPS which does not happen with Bonds. The valuations (PER) could also increase giving an investor a much better Total Return by 2027. KPC to list on the NSE in next 111 days Uwongo Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,318 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:My 2 cents wrote:xtina wrote:My 2 cents wrote:It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap. Some firms' have DYs that are similar to bonds! Let's say you get (net) 9% DY (for a good firm) vs (net) 12% (Interest for a 5-year T-Bond) then the difference is only 3% which is 17% (compounded) over 5 years. There is a good chance that the firm to grow its EPS and DPS which does not happen with Bonds. The valuations (PER) could also increase giving an investor a much better Total Return by 2027. KPC to list on the NSE in next 111 days Uwongo Stop embarrassing yourself https://youtu.be/C5owVRFx2UM?si=FwLVXTRVvV8u3eLI COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,371 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:My 2 cents wrote:xtina wrote:[quote=My 2 cents]It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap. Some firms' have DYs that are similar to bonds! Let's say you get (net) 9% DY (for a good firm) vs (net) 12% (Interest for a 5-year T-Bond) then the difference is only 3% which is 17% (compounded) over 5 years. There is a good chance that the firm to grow its EPS and DPS which does not happen with Bonds. The valuations (PER) could also increase giving an investor a much better Total Return by 2027. KPC to list on the NSE in next 111 days Uwongo Stop embarrassing yourself https://youtu.be/C5owVRFx2UM?si=FwLVXTRVvV8u3eLI[/quote] 110 days left. Let's look at it on 1 August then 1 September then 1 October and so on Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,819 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:My 2 cents wrote:xtina wrote:[quote=My 2 cents]It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap. Some firms' have DYs that are similar to bonds! Let's say you get (net) 9% DY (for a good firm) vs (net) 12% (Interest for a 5-year T-Bond) then the difference is only 3% which is 17% (compounded) over 5 years. There is a good chance that the firm to grow its EPS and DPS which does not happen with Bonds. The valuations (PER) could also increase giving an investor a much better Total Return by 2027. KPC to list on the NSE in next 111 days Uwongo Stop embarrassing yourself https://youtu.be/C5owVRFx2UM?si=FwLVXTRVvV8u3eLI[/quote] 110 days left. Let's look at it on 1 August then 1 September then 1 October and so on 😂😂😂 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,371 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:My 2 cents wrote:xtina wrote:[quote=My 2 cents]It is the mwanainchi's fault if they sell out of their allocations. I suspect many Kenyans bought Safaricom at IPO and sold out later when it went sub 5. We have a second opportunity to load up now that international investors are dumping, but how many Kenyans are taking advantage of this rare opportunity? Very few are taking advantage but honestly speaking, NSE is just not a priority for a majority of Kenyans. In the past two years, I have tried to bring up story ya shares and everyone looks at me funny  I realized I sound very out-of-touch and elitist because everyone else is more concerned with fuel and unga ya 200 bob. Majority Kenyans prefer to invest in land and sacco shares. Several Kenyans also got burned with the shenanigans of brokers years past. Those folks will never return to the NSE. It will take a new generation with no hang ups about the NSE to revive interest in the bourse. Meanwhile anyone with the balls of steel needed to buy and hold this market over a long period will eventually make out like a bandit. Valuations are ridiculously cheap. Some firms' have DYs that are similar to bonds! Let's say you get (net) 9% DY (for a good firm) vs (net) 12% (Interest for a 5-year T-Bond) then the difference is only 3% which is 17% (compounded) over 5 years. There is a good chance that the firm to grow its EPS and DPS which does not happen with Bonds. The valuations (PER) could also increase giving an investor a much better Total Return by 2027. KPC to list on the NSE in next 111 days Uwongo Stop embarrassing yourself https://youtu.be/C5owVRFx2UM?si=FwLVXTRVvV8u3eLI[/quote] 110 days left. Let's look at it on 1 August then 1 September then 1 October and so on High court says KPC should pay River Thange victims 3.8bn @obiero How many days left? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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