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deadpoet
#11 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2020 1:14:03 PM
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mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?
obiero
#12 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2020 1:54:36 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?

Indeed. It's a science

KQ ABP 4.26
sparkly
#13 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2020 9:09:41 PM
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?

Indeed. It's a science


You have alot of experience in this science smile
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#14 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2020 9:34:28 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?

Indeed. It's a science


You have alot of experience in this science smile

Fortunately

KQ ABP 4.26
NewMoney
#15 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 2:19:45 AM
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Location: Nairobi
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?



My little math background tells me that it's not mathematically possible to average down to the current price, unless you 1) buy an infinite extra amount of that share or 2) are expecting the price to go up e.g your ABP is 20, current price is 10, buy extra to average down to 15 and hope price will go up to 15
obiero
#16 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 6:26:25 AM
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NewMoney wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?



My little math background tells me that it's not mathematically possible to average down to the current price, unless you 1) buy an infinite extra amount of that share or 2) are expecting the price to go up e.g your ABP is 20, current price is 10, buy extra to average down to 15 and hope price will go up to 15

Your math is right. There must be high hope of a price recovery. Otherwise no need to average down

KQ ABP 4.26
sparkly
#17 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 8:33:49 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
NewMoney wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?



My little math background tells me that it's not mathematically possible to average down to the current price, unless you 1) buy an infinite extra amount of that share or 2) are expecting the price to go up e.g your ABP is 20, current price is 10, buy extra to average down to 15 and hope price will go up to 15


My little math background tells me the same thing. The average of two numbers will always be somewhere between the higher number and the lower number. It can't equal the higher or the lower number.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#18 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 8:28:35 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?



My little math background tells me that it's not mathematically possible to average down to the current price, unless you 1) buy an infinite extra amount of that share or 2) are expecting the price to go up e.g your ABP is 20, current price is 10, buy extra to average down to 15 and hope price will go up to 15


My little math background tells me the same thing. The average of two numbers will always be somewhere between the higher number and the lower number. It can't equal the higher or the lower number.

In shilling terms, KES 10 and KES 20 per share are totally different propositions especially when holding large amount of stock. Averaging down can be done but with high caution

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 9:01:41 PM
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New research going back 120 years backs up Warren Buffett’s simple advice for investing
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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#20 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 9:33:44 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
mulla wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Never average down on a share with poor fundamentals, lessons from KQ and MSC. Never ever. You are better off selling and going for shares with strong fundamentals - dont dig a hole you cannot fill.

Today if you sold the KPLC shares and bought into KCB/Safaricom or I&M/NCBA, am sure in 2 years you will be better of than you are now.


I learnt that lesson of averaging down the hard way with KQ and in business. If you find yourself in a bad investment with dim future prospects, BAIL OUT. Dust yourself, swallow your pride and look for better investments. You will save yourself a lot of time and money in future.


Also do the math first. How much do you have to commit to average down to the current price?



My little math background tells me that it's not mathematically possible to average down to the current price, unless you 1) buy an infinite extra amount of that share or 2) are expecting the price to go up e.g your ABP is 20, current price is 10, buy extra to average down to 15 and hope price will go up to 15


My little math background tells me the same thing. The average of two numbers will always be somewhere between the higher number and the lower number. It can't equal the higher or the lower number.

In shilling terms, KES 10 and KES 20 per share are totally different propositions especially when holding large amount of stock. Averaging down can be done but with high caution


No need for caution when averaging down a fundamentally good stock.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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