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Proverbs 6:6-8 King James Version (KJV)
6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:
7 Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,
8 Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.
If this is true, and recent research tends to prove this assertion as true, then how come there's a hierarchy?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Let's not nitpick. the difference between ants and humans is that HUMANS ARE CAPABLE OF HIERARCHY... capable of many things including being social... being rational. being irrational. being cooperative and being uncooperative. being emotional.. being unemotional e.t.c. humans are CAPABLE OF ALL THOSE THINGS WE ATTRIBUTE THEM OF 'BEING'. depending on the prevailing ideology and with reinforcement - humans apply themselves to work on certain trait. The same species not too long ago applied themselves at killing each other and over 70 million of it's own were killed. why? not because the individual soldiers doing the killing had grudges - no... they had to obey 'orders'. heck during world war 1 - troupes were fighting on Christmas eve... had a truce and played football together on Christmas day and went on with fighting on boxing day. The differences we see in countries are simply because of this. What brand of fiction one chose to apply. Remember not all of these fictions.. (ideologies to those who feel offended) are the same towards working towards a certain end. a bunch of people in a territory called themselves USA and applied a different set of 'ideologies' from the people south of that place and ended up with different results. We Africans have subjected ourselves to obeying certain fictions that have ended us up where we are. heck no 2 neighboring countries are the same. Kenya applied itself to a different type of fiction and still is to what was applied south, east, west and north. Same human beings. different fiction.... sorry 'ideology'. bees don't have that. same species of bees or ants don't have 'variety'. same hive here and a hive 2 kms away have exactly the same structure. the same way children in Kenya suckle the same as children in Kiribati. People in Mongolia mate (the act of in and out) in the same way as people in Jamaica. People in Canada walk in the same way as people from tribes in Papua New Guinea that have never seen outside human beings for years. Do they cook the same? no! <-- subject of fiction. Do they both have women? Yes! Do they treat 'women' the same? no! so babies suckle the same? yes! it's our responsibility to pick the right fiction... sorry ideology that works towards a certain goal and apply ourselves at it. Singapore and Malasyia are next door neighbours - singapore has less than 6 million people. almost the same as number of luhyas in kenya. Malaysia has 27million people - over 4 times the number of people in Singapore. Yet Singapore has a higher GDP than Malaysia... they are next to each other. why? SAME HUMAN BEINGS DIFFERENT TYPE OF FICTION. so don't come here supporting your hierarchical structure telling us it's natural and 'God Ordained' and that's is the sole reason we should follow it - show us examples of WHAT IT CAN DO WHEN WE APPLY OURSELVES TO YOUR VERSION OF FICTION and you will not get an argument from me.... because that's the type of fiction I follow. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Masukuma, the new post you've made is just the same as the initial one. And my response is on the posts above.
The only things I can add are:
3. Humans are just like ants in the measure of organization. To be human is to relate to and with others who have to be structured in a certain way that is restricted to a population set.
That population set is the equivalent of an ant colony. And it has to be natural.
4. Language is an instance of something that is both 'natural' and 'fictional'
Hence we need not start talking about 'what fiction' to have etc. What we're doing here is simply that regardless of the language dynamics of a settlement or civilization, there has to be a universal set of all possible languages.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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There can never be an ant without a colony.
And neither a human without a settlement.
Therefore the first ant or the first human can only be met in abstracted space-time. The dream-vision.
The dream-vision is the true ruler of ants and humans, and all other living things.
It is the allotter of roles and classes.
Hierarchy is the dispersal of light in a prism. And the prism is the context.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:There can never be an ant without a colony.
And neither a human without a settlement.
Therefore the first ant or the first human can only be met in abstracted space-time. The dream-vision.
The dream-vision is the true ruler of ants and humans, and all other living things.
It is the allotter of roles and classes.
Hierarchy is the dispersal of light in a prism. And the prism is the context. I how I respond to some of the posts here All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:There can never be an ant without a colony.
And neither a human without a settlement.
Therefore the first ant or the first human can only be met in abstracted space-time. The dream-vision.
The dream-vision is the true ruler of ants and humans, and all other living things.
It is the allotter of roles and classes.
Hierarchy is the dispersal of light in a prism. And the prism is the context. I how I respond to some of the posts here Where is that friend of yours if not, dead? Reasoning is not a strength of yours. Maybe preaching. There's a social class for folks like you. You know which one?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Most wazuans belong to the 'soldier' social class. But from different colonies.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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tycho wrote:Most wazuans belong to the 'soldier' social class. But from different colonies. Strength in numbers, the king wouldn't be without them I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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thuks wrote:tycho wrote:Most wazuans belong to the 'soldier' social class. But from different colonies. Strength in numbers, the king wouldn't be without them True. Their status is highly appreciated.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:I believe that humans are designed or design themselves to fit in a template of social classes, and that pawns, are also, predetermined, and thus in ancient language, 'God ordained'.
Look at the bees, or ants, or any social animals. There's always a hierarchy.
And so is it for humans!
The problem then is how different societies, find the right people for the right task. Such that, it's probable that a society may fail to have a way of assigning social class that is optimal.
Such that the wrong people end up getting the wrong roles.
That is how a society degenerates. England in the 2018 world cup Sonko as governor Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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