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limanika		#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:56:23 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032		While at it, how did they ever decide on wiper for a party name? I think the change is welcome(long overdue mine wear out and I change every 2- 3 yrs)
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Ngalaka		#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:36:57 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566		Baratang wrote: Lolest! wrote: masukuma wrote: Impunity wrote: Yes,Wiper is upgraded ans rebranded to Okoa Kenya Movement Party of Kenya,aka OKM. What a name change. ODM --> ODM-Kenya --> Wiper --> OKM? Kalonzo was never in ODM! You are forgetting the Orange movement won the referendum in 2005 and kalonzo was in this camp. When it was transformed into Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) Kalonzo was in it. Later wakakosana na Raila. Melon disembarked and formed ODM-Kenya... WRONG. I do not understand why people keep getting this part of history wrong. The correct position is; While the Orange brigade that had won the referendum was still doing victory laps, one Mugambi Imanyara moved swiftly and registered a political party under the name Orange Democratic Movement ODM. This guy, then a nondescript lawyer was 'supposedly' acting to upstage the real 'owners' at the behest of Kiraitu Murungi. Then Raila, Uhuru, Kalonzo, Balala, Mutula etc tried to register their own ODM but faced issues on account of similarities of names. Then mass action episodes began - demanding registration. They were eventually registered under the name ODM-K with the entire group as above on board. After about a year or so Uhuru bolted. Much later after about two year stint, Raila defected, managed to buy Mugambi Imanyara off and took over the party they had spent lots of time demonising as Kiraitu Murungi's brain child. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Lolest!		#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:42:39 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		Baratang wrote: Lolest! wrote: masukuma wrote: Impunity wrote: Yes,Wiper is upgraded ans rebranded to Okoa Kenya Movement Party of Kenya,aka OKM. What a name change. ODM --> ODM-Kenya --> Wiper --> OKM? Kalonzo was never in ODM! You are forgetting the Orange movement won the referendum in 2005 and kalonzo was in this camp. When it was transformed into Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) Kalonzo was in it. Later wakakosana na Raila. Melon disembarked and formed ODM-Kenya... This is one thing that people keep throwing stones at Kalonzo for no reason! There was an orange movement in 2005 yes but ODM hadn't been formed. ODM was formed by lawyer Mugambi Imanyara during the height of the orange movement's success. He wasn't a member of the orange referendum just a risk taker who thought he could make a quick buck by booking the name. So after the victory at the plebiscite, RAO & Co go to register ODM and find the name already taken. By a Mt. Kenya guy! They blame govt. They move on and register ODM-Kenya(It was funny that RAO was okay with -Kenya for ODM while he was taunting the NAK wing when they opted to register NARC-Kenya. He said "sasa utasikia wameunda NARC-Somalia ) For most of that period, Kalonzo was the preferred presidential candidate. But RAO's people start asking "How come we are always supporting others(Kibaki, now Kalonzo). Sis pia onawes kuwa rais" Orange splits. Kalonzo is heckled in Mombasa. But Kalonzo eventually wins because the party papers are in the custody of his protege. A lawyer by the name Daniel Maanzo. That's how the disgruntled RAO ends up looking for lawyer Imanyara. They get the party from him(or bought it ) and they all defect to ODM from ODM-K. Hivyo ndivyo kulikuwa
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kaka2za		#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:16:30 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu		Lolest! wrote: Baratang wrote: Lolest! wrote: masukuma wrote: Impunity wrote: Yes,Wiper is upgraded ans rebranded to Okoa Kenya Movement Party of Kenya,aka OKM. What a name change. ODM --> ODM-Kenya --> Wiper --> OKM? Kalonzo was never in ODM! You are forgetting the Orange movement won the referendum in 2005 and kalonzo was in this camp. When it was transformed into Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) Kalonzo was in it. Later wakakosana na Raila. Melon disembarked and formed ODM-Kenya... This is one thing that people keep throwing stones at Kalonzo for no reason! There was an orange movement in 2005 yes but ODM hadn't been formed. ODM was formed by lawyer Mugambi Imanyara during the height of the orange movement's success. He wasn't a member of the orange referendum just a risk taker who thought he could make a quick buck by booking the name. So after the victory at the plebiscite, RAO & Co go to register ODM and find the name already taken. By a Mt. Kenya guy! They blame govt. They move on and register ODM-Kenya(It was funny that RAO was okay with -Kenya for ODM while he was taunting the NAK wing when they opted to register NARC-Kenya. He said "sasa utasikia wameunda NARC-Somalia ) For most of that period, Kalonzo was the preferred presidential candidate. But RAO's people start asking "How come we are always supporting others(Kibaki, now Kalonzo). Sis pia onawes kuwa rais" Orange splits. Kalonzo is heckled in Mombasa. But Kalonzo eventually wins because the party papers are in the custody of his protege. A lawyer by the name Daniel Maanzo. That's how the disgruntled RAO ends up looking for lawyer Imanyara. They get the party from him(or bought it ) and they all defect to ODM from ODM-K. Hivyo ndivyo kulikuwa And it was indeed a Kiraitu's idea executed by Imanyara and Muite Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Lolest!		#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:39:21 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		@kaka, how? I thought Mugambi ended up posing for photos with RAO after the deal had been sealed?
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kaka2za		#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:54:19 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu		Lolest! wrote: @kaka, how? I thought Mugambi ended up posing for photos with RAO after the deal had been sealed? Mugambi was just an agent. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Swenani		#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:04:53 PM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		Impunity wrote: Yes,Wiper is upgraded ans rebranded to Okoa Kenya Movement Party of Kenya,aka OKM. What a name change. Wiper has NOT changed....their motto/clarion call is ONE Kenya Movement not okoa If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Lolest!		#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:09:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		kaka2za wrote: Lolest! wrote: @kaka, how? I thought Mugambi ended up posing for photos with RAO after the deal had been sealed? Mugambi was just an agent. He ended up as an official of ODM under Odinga Quite odd for someone supposed to be Kiraitu's spanner boy
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Ngalaka		#19 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:16:42 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566		Kalonzo is one hopeless politician. All he does is wait.... to react. He can not act proactively. Even the eventual reaction is tiring-ly dragged and underwhelming. Look what he is doing now; - somehow Muthama is his main point-man Muthama...., the same guy who abandoned him at high noon in favour of Raila, tried to vie on ODM ticket only for ODM to shy away lest they rub the entire Ukambani electorate the wrong way. Muthama who we all saw during the retreat at Maanzoni, demanding that Raila take the oath at a time when Raila himself was reluctant to. Muthama who hobnobbed with the core ODM clique that kept pulling the rug from under Kalonzo's feet upto the day the Oathing! That is the guy now leading Kalonzo's troops!! Kalonzo doesnt get it, he should simply retire! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Realtreaty		#20 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:30:50 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,389		OKOA Kenya from what??? The name is self defeatist and cannot win anything. It is as if Kenya is colonized? That name sounds sick and is another stupid thinking
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