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Fyatu
#11 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:28:09 AM
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Rongla wrote:
Nairobi needs a multi storey underground car parks and Matatu termini at Uhuru park grounds and other strategic junctions . Uhuru park can absorb traffic from Langata road, Mombasa road, Ngong Road and waiyaki way. The car park can also host the menacing Hawkers and other street businesses currently suffocating the CBD . Globe cinema roundabout, Gikomba market and Machakos Bus Station can have similar Car parks and Matatu termini to cater for traffic from Eastlands and the North of Nairobi.
Once implemented, Matatus should only be allowed in for a set period of time to pick up passangers or each route be allocated a number of spaces.
No vehicles should be allowed in the CBD. A light rail system should be in place to link up all the termini and the CBD.
Maoni tuu


I disagree with the Uhuru park suggestion. Uhuru park is a beautiful place full of trees and grass and should not be defiled by diesel emitting matatus and over defecating makangas, hawkers and chokoraas.

Most of Nairobi's traffic is caused by matatus. If you look at Mombasa road, there is always traffic near general motors because matatus drop and pick passengers on a stage around there.There is always traffick near belle view, and near cabannas heading to town dueto a bus stop just near the cabanas eastern bypass flyover.

On thika road there is traffic hapo garden city, allsops, survey, mathare mental hospital and Ngara and guess why.....? There are unofficial bus stops in these areas. On Ngong road, there is traffic around Kenyatta hospital area and you can guess why.I can go on and on with my examples..

My suggestion is to copy Dar es saalam and their Ubungo model. Matatu termini should be 15 kms from CBD. Any estate within 15km radius should be served by light rail/bus rapid transport etc. Anything short of that means we remain shithole citizens who will continue swallowing diesel poisons/emissions from dozen matatus at Kencom,ambassador,Tom Mboya street, Ronald Ngala street, Accra road etc in our chaotic overrated city Nairobi.You build a superhighway in the name of outering road and stil allow matatus and pedestrians/commuters to board and alight/cross the road anywhere they wish. If this is not a testament of how dumb we are then i don't know what is.

Another suggestion is to have matatus travel express e.g., they get filled-up in the estate termini say pipeline Embakassi or Kayole termini, and then travel direct without dropping passengers until they reach town termini
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Fyatu
#12 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:43:08 AM
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tinker wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Nairobi was made for surface operations and reason the white looked for flat land to settle as a base during railway erection.

Dubai NEVER stops constructions....Roads-bridges, overpasses, underpasses, canals and Tall buildings are the order of the day.
Nairobi is too behind to implement some of the obvious much needed projects.

Railway station is a property of Railways corporation that is a Govt Parastatal and Govt ought to give access to other projects that could open up Nairobi traffic both Pedestrians and automobiles.
Think of linking Hamza in Makadara to Nyanyuki road in Industrial area with a link road to reduce traffic on Likoni and the road from Donholm to industrial area.
Link Kirinyaga road to ngara with a road not footpath for Matatus 6 , 9, 14, 32, 17B, 47, 44 etc
Expand Moi Avenue from Commercial- Ambassadeur- to Haileselassie avenue with an overpass /underpass to Landmawe-Workshop -Dunga rds (Kibaki close)


In my view, only light rail(Metro train) can make real change in reducing traffic in Nairobi.Building new bypass, overpass, underpass will just be a cosmetic change.

We have heavy inbound traffic every morning in Thika road- despite its expansion.


Why build all these and yet allow matatus,pedestrian, hawkers, chokoraas, pickpockets to set up unofficial bustops, markets on the superhighway where matatus will always cause traffick in the name of picking and dropping passengers as well as kuomba njia to join the express way etc. I thoght the reason to build the superhighways was to have town to town express connections e.g., from Githurai to CBD without dropping passengers at survey, mathare hospital etc
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
tycho
#13 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2018 11:49:03 AM
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Maybe we can also think 'outside the box'.

Like why not have clean energy 'flying brooms' with traffic allowed at between a height of x meters and y meters above the ground?

And then we plant trees and tree-stops connected to foot paths and roads and the lands and settlements.

Then convert most present day car parks and garages etc into play and recreation grounds and nature parks.

Say also have many herbal gardens around cities and settlements to support a revamped health policy...

That is create a world of our project.
tycho
#14 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2018 12:08:33 PM
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Given materials, some money and a small team, it can take us less than 3 years to develop a flying broom.

And around 50 years to completely phase out motor vehicles as we know them, and an interesting thing is that given enough strategy and force we can be exporting our 'brooms' to undeveloped countries like the USA, Japan, and China.

Have a distributed manufacture kind of thing where Kenyan made products are built/manufactured in China, India ... Or even Russia and sold in situ.

We can make Kenya a super power in less than a century.
aemathenge
#15 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2018 6:14:08 PM
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I agree.
Realtreaty
#16 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2018 7:21:39 PM
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How many Rail stations are there from Syokimau to Kikuyu via city center. KR should improve on making more stations with all requirements so that someone can move from Donholm and alight at city stadium without going to city center and again boarding a matatu.

For better operation every 2 to 3 KM should have a station along the line.
By doing so the KR will make more money, operate throughout and be loved by commuters.
Realtreaty
#17 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2018 9:33:34 PM
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Realtreaty
#18 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2018 9:42:14 PM
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Realtreaty
#19 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2018 8:15:49 PM
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The four Cities in Nairobi that need metro rail or tram to CBD
1. Industrial area via South B, dunga w/shop Rd
2. Upper hill and KNH
3. Westlands
4. Eastleigh via Gikomba-Juja Rd, pangani-ngara
tinker
#20 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2018 12:21:24 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
The four Cities in Nairobi that need metro rail or tram to CBD
1. Industrial area via South B, dunga w/shop Rd
2. Upper hill and KNH
3. Westlands
4. Eastleigh via Gikomba-Juja Rd, pangani-ngara


There is no Nairobi without its suburbs-the dormitory where Wanjikus and Wekesas who works in CBD can afford rent.
Any useful tram/light rail must incorporate the 30 KM radius of Nairobi - The Metropolitan.

Image a reliable Tram somehow passing through, Githurai, Mwiki, Kayole,Umoja town.
Kikuyu-Kangemi-Westlands-town
Ngong-Kawangware,Kibera-Town.
Kiserian-Rongai-Town
Kitengela-Athririver-Mlolongo-Pipeline-Utawala -town.


This would reduce CBD traffic by not less than 50%.
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