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Gideon Moi vs William Ruto
hardwood
#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 7:23:00 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Buster wrote:
innairobi wrote:
Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him.

uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally.


gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice.


He he he. No Moi introduction no Uhuru. That's a fact. Then no Ruto no Uhuru. Uhuru was made president by these 2 guys. It's that simple.


I can see guys are joking with Ruto hapa wazua, our next President unless .......


In 2022 there will be only 3 names on the ballot. Looto, Baba and Dida. And okuyos will choose looto, because he was Ohuru's fiercest supporter and campaigner, rather than baba. Baba would be president today if he never fought kifaki. Looto learnt from babas mistake and played safe and thus will be your next president.


And the good thing for looto is that Ohuru will be his chief campaigner. All looto will need is an okuyo running mate and he will be safely in the house on the hill.
innairobi
#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 7:34:01 PM
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Buster wrote:
innairobi wrote:
Gideon Moi is no Uhuru Kenyatta. he cant win even if uhuru backs him.

uhuru was not made president by moi as has become a common saying nowadays. moi only introduced him to politics. uhuru became president because of backing kibaki and his perceived role as a savior of his people in the pev. that's how mount kenya moved solidly behind him and gave him a powerful negotiating position nationally.


gideon doesnt have the kalenjin behind him and there's no sign there'll be a massive national crisis that will enable him pry them away from ruto. the uhuru presidency was a result of several circumstances coming together. it was a stroke of good luck. lightning will not strike twice.


He he he. No Moi introduction no Uhuru. That's a fact. Then no Ruto no Uhuru. Uhuru was made president by these 2 guys. It's that simple.


kama nilivyosema, several circumstances came together but the number one is uhuru getting the backing of mount kenya. it is what made uhuru a person worth being talked to. otherwise ruto the hustler would have looked for saitoti or karua for talks if that is who the mountain was behind. realpolitik.

uhuru failed spectacularly in 2002 with the backing of moi and ruto. mount kenya vote block made him attractive to politicians like mudavadi, kalonzo and ruto in 2012/2013. the icc cases were a stroke of lucky glue and ruto-uhuru camaraderie a plus.

for the same reason the backing of the kalenjin is the number one reason that william ruto is DP today. without them he'd be another random rift valley politician like gideon moi. of course ruto took a very risky but strategic gamble to back another kikuyu as president and its looking like it will pay off in 2022. but as a pragmatist, he had to do it because the mount kenya voter block is twice as large as the kalenjin and has been the largest monolithic block in the country. if they back him, he has a huge headstart.

raila is who he is first because of the luo vote, kalonzo because of the kamba vote. joho is trying the same in coast and mudavadi in western. hivyo ndiyo siasa ya kenya inapangwa at the moment.
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aemathenge
#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 7:47:33 PM
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Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.
kiash
#24 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:06:18 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.


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hardwood
#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:06:23 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Nope, can't happen. Ohuru wants all these manenos to be over so that he can go back to "normal life", as an ordinary citizen.
hardwood
#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:10:28 PM
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hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Nope, can't happen. Ohuru wants all these manenos to be over so that he can go back to "normal life", as an ordinary citizen.

To sell milk and kunywa Jameson without lots of noise aka manenos.
Angelica _ann
#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:10:31 PM
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hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Nope, can't happen. Ohuru wants all these manenos to be over so that he can go back to "normal life", as an ordinary citizen.


Normal life of walking with friends like Johnnie smile
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hardwood
#28 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:13:19 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Only an idiot would settle for deputy president after being president.
Angelica _ann
#29 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:19:01 PM
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hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Only an idiot would settle for deputy president after being president.


Yawa you don't enjoy sarcasm!!! Relax though Israel has had some crazy stuff at that level smile
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:23:04 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Only an idiot would settle for deputy president after being president.


Yawa you don't enjoy sarcasm!!! Relax though Israel has had some crazy stuff at that level smile


Prime Minister and Presidency exchange is possible but no sane president can go for lower elective position.
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Wrong forever on the throne
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:03:09 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

No impediment

But it could end up in court because the DP takes up Presidency automatically when a vacancy occurs in the presidency FOR THE REST OF THE TERM

How will someone who has served 2 full terms step in in such a case?
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:42:35 PM
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hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Only an idiot would settle for deputy president after being president.


@hardwood, Is that not what politicians are? Just listen to any and you will get to that conclusion
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Angelica _ann
#33 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:46:27 PM
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Gathige wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Only an idiot would settle for deputy president after being president.


@hardwood, Is that not what politicians are? Just listen to any and you will get to that conclusion


Except PORK UMK!!!
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mpobiz
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:30:52 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Gathige wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Only an idiot would settle for deputy president after being president.


@hardwood, Is that not what politicians are? Just listen to any and you will get to that conclusion


Except PORK UMK!!!

It seems we have all forgotten people called puttin and Medvedev
There was a day one was on top then under then top again.
But I think UMK knows when it's time it's time and a people have to move on. He is not like a certain babu who thinks he is the one and only who can take people to kinanie.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Iganamagana
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:45:09 AM
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mpobiz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Gathige wrote:
hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Only an idiot would settle for deputy president after being president.


@hardwood, Is that not what politicians are? Just listen to any and you will get to that conclusion


Except PORK UMK!!!

It seems we have all forgotten people called puttin and Medvedev
There was a day one was on top then under then top again.
But I think UMK knows when it's time it's time and a people have to move on. He is not like a certain babu who thinks he is the one and only who can take people to kinanie.


In this case , Putin always had real power irrespective of the title.
Iganamagana
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:47:36 AM
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hardwood wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Is there any Constitutional impediments against Bill Ruto naming Uhuru Kenyatta as his running mate?

Asking for a friend.

Nope, can't happen. Ohuru wants all these manenos to be over so that he can go back to "normal life", as an ordinary citizen.


Too late. He will never enjoy life as a regular guy. Kikwete is trying to down South but without success. You loose your quiet private life once you serve in some positions.
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#37 Posted : Sunday, December 17, 2017 9:17:19 PM
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Kanu getting even Cabinet slots, civil service jobs in deal with Uhuru
http://www.nation.co.ke/...31574-env8k0z/index.html
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