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Rollins wrote:Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo Any kikuyu name that; 1. ***is hived off an animal e.g. Wamburi, Wang'ombe, Mathenge, Mbogo,Njogu, Ngima, Nguyo, Wagui etc 2. Names related to herding....Muriithi 3.Names related to liquor - Muriu, Wanjohi, Karugu, Munyui, 4..... The Gikuyu as a tribe is a fairly recent amalgam of mostly immigrant peoples, one that has somehow grown not through force of arms, but a policy of assimilating new ideas, people and practices from almost anywhere. The names we use reflect this policy as well as the different immigration waves that brought them and Nyeri is one of the most recent examples. Some of the significant influences are: 1. Antiquity - names that are shared by many African peoples and refer to a past so far back that the meanings have been largely lost. These include: Maina, Mwangi, Kimaru, Muchiri, Wacici, Wariua - the last 3 are traceable to ancient Egypt 2. Dorobo/Athi influence (common in Kiambu/Muranga/Mukurweini) - names like Chege, Muturi, Gichuki, Kinyua, Mbugua, Mburu, Mugo (most names associated with the professions of iron making, bee keeping, hunting, magic and medicine). 3. Kamba influence - Muchoki, Mwathi, Thiaka, Mumbi, most Women clan names, even the name Gikuyu. These are the progenitors of the first Gikuyu settlers in Muranga. 4. Masai influence (common in Nyeri) - Wangombe, Mureithi, Nderitu, Ngare, Nyokabi, Ngatia, Munyi (most names related to cattle keeping and warfare) 5. Meru/Embu/Mbeere influence - Most animal totem names - Njoka, Njue, Nyaga - (names related to agriculture and homesteading) Murimi/ Karimi, Wanja, Wahome, Kimathi) 6. Wazungu/Asian influence----those are recent and fairly obvious. The Gikuyu people also deliberately celebrated their status as immigrant people through the names they gave, especially to girls. Wandia, Wamaitha, Nyaguthii, Waruguru, Waithiegeni, Waitherero, Nyaikamba, Nyakabete, Wagaaki etc are all names denoting origin outside Gikuyuland "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Wakanyugi wrote:Rollins wrote:Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo Any kikuyu name that; 1. ***is hived off an animal e.g. Wamburi, Wang'ombe, Mathenge, Mbogo,Njogu, Ngima, Nguyo, Wagui etc 2. Names related to herding....Muriithi 3.Names related to liquor - Muriu, Wanjohi, Karugu, Munyui, 4..... The Gikuyu as a tribe is a fairly recent amalgam of mostly immigrant peoples, one that has somehow grown not through force of arms, but a policy of assimilating new ideas, people and practices from almost anywhere. The names we use reflect this policy as well as the different immigration waves that brought them and Nyeri is one of the most recent examples. Some of the significant influences are: 1. Antiquity - names that are shared by many African peoples and refer to a past so far back that the meanings have been largely lost. These include: Maina, Mwangi, Kimaru, Muchiri, Wacici, Wariua - the last 3 are traceable to ancient Egypt 2. Dorobo/Athi influence (common in Kiambu/Muranga/Mukurweini) - names like Chege, Muturi, Gichuki, Kinyua, Mbugua, Mburu, Mugo (most names associated with the professions of iron making, bee keeping, hunting, magic and medicine). 3. Kamba influence - Muchoki, Mwathi, Thiaka, Mumbi, most Women clan names, even the name Gikuyu. These are the progenitors of the first Gikuyu settlers in Muranga. 4. Masai influence (common in Nyeri) - Wangombe, Mureithi, Nderitu, Ngare, Nyokabi, Ngatia, Munyi (most names related to cattle keeping and warfare) 5. Meru/Embu/Mbeere influence - Most animal totem names - Njoka, Njue, Nyaga - (names related to agriculture and homesteading) Murimi/ Karimi, Wanja, Wahome, Kimathi) 6. Wazungu/Asian influence----those are recent and fairly obvious. The Gikuyu people also deliberately celebrated their status as immigrant people through the names they gave, especially to girls. Wandia, Wamaitha, Nyaguthii, Waruguru, Waithiegeni, Waitherero, Nyaikamba, Nyakabete, Wagaaki etc are all names denoting origin outside Gikuyuland What is the historical connection between the Kikuyu and the meru?they seem to be so closely related to the extent that many Kenyans believe they are one tribe.. Hope is not a strategy
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sanity wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Rollins wrote:Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo Any kikuyu name that; 1. ***is hived off an animal e.g. Wamburi, Wang'ombe, Mathenge, Mbogo,Njogu, Ngima, Nguyo, Wagui etc 2. Names related to herding....Muriithi 3.Names related to liquor - Muriu, Wanjohi, Karugu, Munyui, 4..... The Gikuyu as a tribe is a fairly recent amalgam of mostly immigrant peoples, one that has somehow grown not through force of arms, but a policy of assimilating new ideas, people and practices from almost anywhere. The names we use reflect this policy as well as the different immigration waves that brought them and Nyeri is one of the most recent examples. Some of the significant influences are: 1. Antiquity - names that are shared by many African peoples and refer to a past so far back that the meanings have been largely lost. These include: Maina, Mwangi, Kimaru, Muchiri, Wacici, Wariua - the last 3 are traceable to ancient Egypt 2. Dorobo/Athi influence (common in Kiambu/Muranga/Mukurweini) - names like Chege, Muturi, Gichuki, Kinyua, Mbugua, Mburu, Mugo (most names associated with the professions of iron making, bee keeping, hunting, magic and medicine). 3. Kamba influence - Muchoki, Mwathi, Thiaka, Mumbi, most Women clan names, even the name Gikuyu. These are the progenitors of the first Gikuyu settlers in Muranga. 4. Masai influence (common in Nyeri) - Wangombe, Mureithi, Nderitu, Ngare, Nyokabi, Ngatia, Munyi (most names related to cattle keeping and warfare) 5. Meru/Embu/Mbeere influence - Most animal totem names - Njoka, Njue, Nyaga - (names related to agriculture and homesteading) Murimi/ Karimi, Wanja, Wahome, Kimathi) 6. Wazungu/Asian influence----those are recent and fairly obvious. The Gikuyu people also deliberately celebrated their status as immigrant people through the names they gave, especially to girls. Wandia, Wamaitha, Nyaguthii, Waruguru, Waithiegeni, Waitherero, Nyaikamba, Nyakabete, Wagaaki etc are all names denoting origin outside Gikuyuland What is the historical connection between the Kikuyu and the meru?they seem to be so closely related to the extent that many Kenyans believe they are one tribe.. Agikuyu are actually closer to Aembu than Ameru. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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sanity wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Rollins wrote:Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo Any kikuyu name that; 1. ***is hived off an animal e.g. Wamburi, Wang'ombe, Mathenge, Mbogo,Njogu, Ngima, Nguyo, Wagui etc 2. Names related to herding....Muriithi 3.Names related to liquor - Muriu, Wanjohi, Karugu, Munyui, 4..... The Gikuyu as a tribe is a fairly recent amalgam of mostly immigrant peoples, one that has somehow grown not through force of arms, but a policy of assimilating new ideas, people and practices from almost anywhere. The names we use reflect this policy as well as the different immigration waves that brought them and Nyeri is one of the most recent examples. Some of the significant influences are: 1. Antiquity - names that are shared by many African peoples and refer to a past so far back that the meanings have been largely lost. These include: Maina, Mwangi, Kimaru, Muchiri, Wacici, Wariua - the last 3 are traceable to ancient Egypt 2. Dorobo/Athi influence (common in Kiambu/Muranga/Mukurweini) - names like Chege, Muturi, Gichuki, Kinyua, Mbugua, Mburu, Mugo (most names associated with the professions of iron making, bee keeping, hunting, magic and medicine). 3. Kamba influence - Muchoki, Mwathi, Thiaka, Mumbi, most Women clan names, even the name Gikuyu. These are the progenitors of the first Gikuyu settlers in Muranga. 4. Masai influence (common in Nyeri) - Wangombe, Mureithi, Nderitu, Ngare, Nyokabi, Ngatia, Munyi (most names related to cattle keeping and warfare) 5. Meru/Embu/Mbeere influence - Most animal totem names - Njoka, Njue, Nyaga - (names related to agriculture and homesteading) Murimi/ Karimi, Wanja, Wahome, Kimathi) 6. Wazungu/Asian influence----those are recent and fairly obvious. The Gikuyu people also deliberately celebrated their status as immigrant people through the names they gave, especially to girls. Wandia, Wamaitha, Nyaguthii, Waruguru, Waithiegeni, Waitherero, Nyaikamba, Nyakabete, Wagaaki etc are all names denoting origin outside Gikuyuland What is the historical connection between the Kikuyu and the meru?they seem to be so closely related to the extent that many Kenyans believe they are one tribe.. There are several connections I think. For instance one of the largest waves of immigration into Kirinyaga, Muranga and Nyeri was from Meru and Embu. It is pretty recent (about 100 years) ago. Further back one of the Bantu migration routes up the coast and Tana river (with an origin near Tanga of Tanzania) comprised people who later became the Meru, Kamba, Chaga, Kisii, Kuria and Maragoli. At least that is what I recall from reading Were, Ochieng, Kabecha and Muriuki. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Once again admin may have to start a thread on Gikuyu naming systems.This one was originally Governor Kahiga's
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Kili wrote:Once again admin may have to start a thread on Gikuyu naming systems.This one was originally Governor Kahiga's Things are boring cc. Baba MIA!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Kili wrote:Once again admin may have to start a thread on Gikuyu naming systems.This one was originally Governor Kahiga's Ooops, my bad. It is a slow news afternoon. Things will get more exciting when Baba gets here No more language posts. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Meanwhile more guard rails...
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Wakanyugi wrote:sanity wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Rollins wrote:Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo Any kikuyu name that; 1. ***is hived off an animal e.g. Wamburi, Wang'ombe, Mathenge, Mbogo,Njogu, Ngima, Nguyo, Wagui etc 2. Names related to herding....Muriithi 3.Names related to liquor - Muriu, Wanjohi, Karugu, Munyui, 4..... The Gikuyu as a tribe is a fairly recent amalgam of mostly immigrant peoples, one that has somehow grown not through force of arms, but a policy of assimilating new ideas, people and practices from almost anywhere. The names we use reflect this policy as well as the different immigration waves that brought them and Nyeri is one of the most recent examples. Some of the significant influences are: 1. Antiquity - names that are shared by many African peoples and refer to a past so far back that the meanings have been largely lost. These include: Maina, Mwangi, Kimaru, Muchiri, Wacici, Wariua - the last 3 are traceable to ancient Egypt 2. Dorobo/Athi influence (common in Kiambu/Muranga/Mukurweini) - names like Chege, Muturi, Gichuki, Kinyua, Mbugua, Mburu, Mugo (most names associated with the professions of iron making, bee keeping, hunting, magic and medicine). 3. Kamba influence - Muchoki, Mwathi, Thiaka, Mumbi, most Women clan names, even the name Gikuyu. These are the progenitors of the first Gikuyu settlers in Muranga. 4. Masai influence (common in Nyeri) - Wangombe, Mureithi, Nderitu, Ngare, Nyokabi, Ngatia, Munyi (most names related to cattle keeping and warfare) 5. Meru/Embu/Mbeere influence - Most animal totem names - Njoka, Njue, Nyaga - (names related to agriculture and homesteading) Murimi/ Karimi, Wanja, Wahome, Kimathi) 6. Wazungu/Asian influence----those are recent and fairly obvious. The Gikuyu people also deliberately celebrated their status as immigrant people through the names they gave, especially to girls. Wandia, Wamaitha, Nyaguthii, Waruguru, Waithiegeni, Waitherero, Nyaikamba, Nyakabete, Wagaaki etc are all names denoting origin outside Gikuyuland What is the historical connection between the Kikuyu and the meru?they seem to be so closely related to the extent that many Kenyans believe they are one tribe.. There are several connections I think. For instance one of the largest waves of immigration into Kirinyaga, Muranga and Nyeri was from Meru and Embu. It is pretty recent (about 100 years) ago. Further back one of the Bantu migration routes up the coast and Tana river (with an origin near Tanga of Tanzania) comprised people who later became the Meru, Kamba, Chaga, Kisii, Kuria and Maragoli. At least that is what I recall from reading Were, Ochieng, Kabecha and Muriuki. The Bantus around Mt Kenya were certainly one people until recent millenia and that mountain and poor transcom in the old days meant that people who moved to settle elsewhere easily lost touch with their origins and soon became another community picking new dialects and accents. Even among the Gìkùyù who grew up on the slopes you can tell which county one hails from.
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hardwood wrote:Meanwhile more guard rails... Now this one should be in that other thread In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo There is a story I heard from old nyerians. Kibaki was a nickname for the father of ubakoo. Coz he used to trade in snuff from Meru (where he originated - hence, as some speculate, why Meru benefited so much in prev. presidency) 60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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hardwood wrote:Meanwhile more guard rails... Haiya! Is this like recent? After Gov. Gakuru's? BBI will solve it :)
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Angelica _ann wrote:Kili wrote:Once again admin may have to start a thread on Gikuyu naming systems.This one was originally Governor Kahiga's Things are boring cc. Baba MIA!!! Angelica-Ann, when you go to meet Baba today can you whisper to the NASA warriors to cut down on whatever it is they are smoking. I hear drinking a glass of - Brookside - milk can help. Otherwise I watched elderly Che Guevara Castro Orengo and his "Comrades power!" gang on TV and it is clear they are losing it. You know you have lost your revolution when it becomes a subject of social media ridicule. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Wakanyugi wrote:sanity wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Rollins wrote:Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo Any kikuyu name that; 1. ***is hived off an animal e.g. Wamburi, Wang'ombe, Mathenge, Mbogo,Njogu, Ngima, Nguyo, Wagui etc 2. Names related to herding....Muriithi 3.Names related to liquor - Muriu, Wanjohi, Karugu, Munyui, 4..... The Gikuyu as a tribe is a fairly recent amalgam of mostly immigrant peoples, one that has somehow grown not through force of arms, but a policy of assimilating new ideas, people and practices from almost anywhere. The names we use reflect this policy as well as the different immigration waves that brought them and Nyeri is one of the most recent examples. Some of the significant influences are: 1. Antiquity - names that are shared by many African peoples and refer to a past so far back that the meanings have been largely lost. These include: Maina, Mwangi, Kimaru, Muchiri, Wacici, Wariua - the last 3 are traceable to ancient Egypt 2. Dorobo/Athi influence (common in Kiambu/Muranga/Mukurweini) - names like Chege, Muturi, Gichuki, Kinyua, Mbugua, Mburu, Mugo (most names associated with the professions of iron making, bee keeping, hunting, magic and medicine). 3. Kamba influence - Muchoki, Mwathi, Thiaka, Mumbi, most Women clan names, even the name Gikuyu. These are the progenitors of the first Gikuyu settlers in Muranga. 4. Masai influence (common in Nyeri) - Wangombe, Mureithi, Nderitu, Ngare, Nyokabi, Ngatia, Munyi (most names related to cattle keeping and warfare) 5. Meru/Embu/Mbeere influence - Most animal totem names - Njoka, Njue, Nyaga - (names related to agriculture and homesteading) Murimi/ Karimi, Wanja, Wahome, Kimathi) 6. Wazungu/Asian influence----those are recent and fairly obvious. The Gikuyu people also deliberately celebrated their status as immigrant people through the names they gave, especially to girls. Wandia, Wamaitha, Nyaguthii, Waruguru, Waithiegeni, Waitherero, Nyaikamba, Nyakabete, Wagaaki etc are all names denoting origin outside Gikuyuland What is the historical connection between the Kikuyu and the meru?they seem to be so closely related to the extent that many Kenyans believe they are one tribe.. There are several connections I think. For instance one of the largest waves of immigration into Kirinyaga, Muranga and Nyeri was from Meru and Embu. It is pretty recent (about 100 years) ago. Further back one of the Bantu migration routes up the coast and Tana river (with an origin near Tanga of Tanzania) comprised people who later became the Meru, Kamba, Chaga, Kisii, Kuria and Maragoli. At least that is what I recall from reading Were, Ochieng, Kabecha and Muriuki. 100 yrs too recent. Migrations were self preservation strategies / natural reaction to epidemics, war and famine. These were cut short when mzungu arrived. Hence last notable migrations could have occurred 200yrs ago. That said, Akamba, Agikuyu and Ameru have fairly recent common ancestry. But they left their 'common' home at different times, or dispersed in different directions thus each encounterd different environment, mixed with different peoples along the way, etc, hence the current difference in laguage/accent.
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limanika wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:sanity wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Rollins wrote:Shak wrote:Interesting. So which are the typical Nyeri names apart from the ones mentioned? Also, I've never heard of anyone with the name Kibaki apart from our former prezzo Any kikuyu name that; 1. ***is hived off an animal e.g. Wamburi, Wang'ombe, Mathenge, Mbogo,Njogu, Ngima, Nguyo, Wagui etc 2. Names related to herding....Muriithi 3.Names related to liquor - Muriu, Wanjohi, Karugu, Munyui, 4..... The Gikuyu as a tribe is a fairly recent amalgam of mostly immigrant peoples, one that has somehow grown not through force of arms, but a policy of assimilating new ideas, people and practices from almost anywhere. The names we use reflect this policy as well as the different immigration waves that brought them and Nyeri is one of the most recent examples. Some of the significant influences are: 1. Antiquity - names that are shared by many African peoples and refer to a past so far back that the meanings have been largely lost. These include: Maina, Mwangi, Kimaru, Muchiri, Wacici, Wariua - the last 3 are traceable to ancient Egypt 2. Dorobo/Athi influence (common in Kiambu/Muranga/Mukurweini) - names like Chege, Muturi, Gichuki, Kinyua, Mbugua, Mburu, Mugo (most names associated with the professions of iron making, bee keeping, hunting, magic and medicine). 3. Kamba influence - Muchoki, Mwathi, Thiaka, Mumbi, most Women clan names, even the name Gikuyu. These are the progenitors of the first Gikuyu settlers in Muranga. 4. Masai influence (common in Nyeri) - Wangombe, Mureithi, Nderitu, Ngare, Nyokabi, Ngatia, Munyi (most names related to cattle keeping and warfare) 5. Meru/Embu/Mbeere influence - Most animal totem names - Njoka, Njue, Nyaga - (names related to agriculture and homesteading) Murimi/ Karimi, Wanja, Wahome, Kimathi) 6. Wazungu/Asian influence----those are recent and fairly obvious. The Gikuyu people also deliberately celebrated their status as immigrant people through the names they gave, especially to girls. Wandia, Wamaitha, Nyaguthii, Waruguru, Waithiegeni, Waitherero, Nyaikamba, Nyakabete, Wagaaki etc are all names denoting origin outside Gikuyuland What is the historical connection between the Kikuyu and the meru?they seem to be so closely related to the extent that many Kenyans believe they are one tribe.. There are several connections I think. For instance one of the largest waves of immigration into Kirinyaga, Muranga and Nyeri was from Meru and Embu. It is pretty recent (about 100 years) ago. Further back one of the Bantu migration routes up the coast and Tana river (with an origin near Tanga of Tanzania) comprised people who later became the Meru, Kamba, Chaga, Kisii, Kuria and Maragoli. At least that is what I recall from reading Were, Ochieng, Kabecha and Muriuki. 100 yrs too recent. Migrations were self preservation strategies / natural reaction to epidemics, war and famine. These were cut short when mzungu arrived. Hence last notable migrations could have occurred 200yrs ago. That said, Akamba, Agikuyu and Ameru have fairly recent common ancestry. But they left their 'common' home at different times, or dispersed in different directions thus each encounterd different environment, mixed with different peoples along the way, etc, hence the current difference in laguage/accent. About 12 years ago I interviewed an old lady in Embu who told me her late husband was one of the immigrants from Meru. Apparently there was a climatic disaster which forced families to move and sometimes give away their children in order to survive. She was about 90 years old which is why I estimate around 100 years ago. For the Nyeri Masai immigration, this was caused mainly by the last Maa civil war (1830's) - which Wazungu actually exploited to steal the Masais land. The resulting decimation of the Laikipiak clan caused many women and children to seek shelter among the Nyeri Kikuyu. This is how so many Nyerians came to acquire Kikuyunised Masai names. Even the name Nyeri is Masai, derived from Oldonyo Keri (the mountain of the Leopard) which is the Samburu name for Mt Kenya. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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@wakanyugi, I think the case of the lady you quoted might have been an isolated case. In fact such movements have happened throughout the ages. Till about the time mzungu came, the mt kenya communities lived just outside the forest belt. Gikuyus from nyeri could move 'along the belt' to meru side and vice versa. That's why these communities were already united by the time mzungu came. And any large migration 100yrs ago would have been documented. It would also have been captured by living memory. That's why I assume 200 years back for last major movement
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limanika wrote:@wakanyugi, I think the case of the lady you quoted might have been an isolated case. In fact such movements have happened throughout the ages. Till about the time mzungu came, the mt kenya communities lived just outside the forest belt. Gikuyus from nyeri could move 'along the belt' to meru side and vice versa. That's why these communities were already united by the time mzungu came. And any large migration 100yrs ago would have been documented. It would also have been captured by living memory. That's why I assume 200 years back for last major movement You are right. A 100 years in history is nothing. What I find interesting is how these ancient processes still largely affect life to day. For instance three of the most mobile tribes in Kenya, the Kikuyu, Luo and Kisii arrived in their present home regions fairly recently. To them it is like the migration never stopped. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Wakanyugi wrote:limanika wrote:@wakanyugi, I think the case of the lady you quoted might have been an isolated case. In fact such movements have happened throughout the ages. Till about the time mzungu came, the mt kenya communities lived just outside the forest belt. Gikuyus from nyeri could move 'along the belt' to meru side and vice versa. That's why these communities were already united by the time mzungu came. And any large migration 100yrs ago would have been documented. It would also have been captured by living memory. That's why I assume 200 years back for last major movement You are right. A 100 years in history is nothing. What I find interesting is how these ancient processes still largely affect life to day. For instance three of the most mobile tribes in Kenya, the Kikuyu, Luo and Kisii arrived in their present home regions fairly recently. To them it is like the migration never stopped. Upto 200 years history will have been passed down generations Many Kafete families have history of their homes in Murang'a. Reading through biographies of some of their prominent sons(Njenga Karume, John Gatu, Ngugi wa Thiong'o) you can see families know where their forefathers were born and their migration route
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