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Baratang
#21 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:14:43 PM
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bubethi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
People of Mt Kenya are are not so eager about exercising power.It is mainly about protecting their economic interests which they perceive to be under threat.

They will come out to vote regardless of who is opposing RAO. Voter turn out will most likely drop to below 50% when RAO quits politics.


Agree to this 100% as was the case during Moi-era elections.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Do not lie to yourselves. During the Moi era 1978 to 1988 the Mt Kenya region rarely averaged more than 30% on turn out because open rigging was the order of the day. Come 1992 and the turn out rose slightly above 35% during the first multiparty elections and the Matiba wave. It remained constant or somewhere there about up until 2002 where there were two opposing camps from the same region. In 2002 the average turn out was about 50% and this reigned in 2007 elections which became a game changer in Mt Kenya region.
In 2013, equiped with the memories of 2008, the average turn out short to 85%. In 2017 elections the average turn out was around 85%. The supreme court has just introduced another reason for mountaineers to beat their own turn out record. You can rest assured that the turn out will clock 95%. It may seem far fetched but, it will be the case.
Even if baba quits politics the turn out will still be high mainly because of the devolved political competitions.
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#22 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:20:58 PM
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Baratang wrote:
bubethi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
People of Mt Kenya are are not so eager about exercising power.It is mainly about protecting their economic interests which they perceive to be under threat.

They will come out to vote regardless of who is opposing RAO. Voter turn out will most likely drop to below 50% when RAO quits politics.


Agree to this 100% as was the case during Moi-era elections.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Do not lie to yourselves. During the Moi era 1978 to 1988 the Mt Kenya region rarely averaged more than 30% on turn out because open rigging was the order of the day. Come 1992 and the turn out rose slightly above 35% during the first multiparty elections and the Matiba wave. It remained constant or somewhere there about up until 2002 where there were two opposing camps from the same region. In 2002 the average turn out was about 50% and this reigned in 2007 elections which became a game changer in Mt Kenya region.
In 2013, equiped with the memories of 2008, the average turn out short to 85%. In 2017 elections the average turn out was around 85%. The supreme court has just introduced another reason for mountaineers to beat their own turn out record. You can rest assured that the turn out will clock 95%. It may seem far fetched but, it will be the case.
Even if baba quits politics the turn out will still be high mainly because of the devolved political competitions.


I have to agree with Baratang on this.

The central vote especially in Kiambu now knows that even the MCA matters. I had a conversation recently with some business people in Kikuyu about Kabogo losing.

Unlike the sensational stories by mbroggers, their problem was not the matiti comments. They knew it was a lie.

Their problem was that Kabogo people in yellow would walk around with their tu machines and start charging them 50 bob, 140 for this or that etc. the business people weren't happy about being taxed.

For as long as a gov't shall harass these business people, they too shall go.

In that case, don't expect the central vote especially in Kiambu to ever go down. They will come out even more if they think that their livelyhoods are in trouble.

They are very sophisticated voters. They even know Kameme is crap.smile

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Lolest!
#23 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:21:15 PM
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Baratang wrote:
bubethi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
People of Mt Kenya are are not so eager about exercising power.It is mainly about protecting their economic interests which they perceive to be under threat.

They will come out to vote regardless of who is opposing RAO. Voter turn out will most likely drop to below 50% when RAO quits politics.


Agree to this 100% as was the case during Moi-era elections.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Do not lie to yourselves. During the Moi era 1978 to 1988 the Mt Kenya region rarely averaged more than 30% on turn out because open rigging was the order of the day. Come 1992 and the turn out rose slightly above 35% during the first multiparty elections and the Matiba wave. It remained constant or somewhere there about up until 2002 where there were two opposing camps from the same region. In 2002 the average turn out was about 50% and this reigned in 2007 elections which became a game changer in Mt Kenya region.
In 2013, equiped with the memories of 2008, the average turn out short to 85%. In 2017 elections the average turn out was around 85%. The supreme court has just introduced another reason for mountaineers to beat their own turn out record. You can rest assured that the turn out will clock 95%. It may seem far fetched but, it will be the case.
Even if baba quits politics the turn out will still be high mainly because of the devolved political competitions.

Turnout is also dependent on recency of the register. The more recent it is, the higher the turnout
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#24 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:47:30 PM
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Baratang wrote:
bubethi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
People of Mt Kenya are are not so eager about exercising power.It is mainly about protecting their economic interests which they perceive to be under threat.

They will come out to vote regardless of who is opposing RAO. Voter turn out will most likely drop to below 50% when RAO quits politics.


Agree to this 100% as was the case during Moi-era elections.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Do not lie to yourselves. During the Moi era 1978 to 1988 the Mt Kenya region rarely averaged more than 30% on turn out because open rigging was the order of the day. Come 1992 and the turn out rose slightly above 35% during the first multiparty elections and the Matiba wave. It remained constant or somewhere there about up until 2002 where there were two opposing camps from the same region. In 2002 the average turn out was about 50% and this reigned in 2007 elections which became a game changer in Mt Kenya region.
In 2013, equiped with the memories of 2008, the average turn out short to 85%. In 2017 elections the average turn out was around 85%. The supreme court has just introduced another reason for mountaineers to beat their own turn out record. You can rest assured that the turn out will clock 95%. It may seem far fetched but, it will be the case.
Even if baba quits politics the turn out will still be high mainly because of the devolved political competitions.


Most mountaneers vote to stop Kimundu. Turn out may hit the ceiling this time.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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kenmac
#25 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 9:02:48 PM
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Hii uchaguzi kila mtu apewe Form 34A yake ajibebe hadi national tallying center
......Ecclesiastes
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#26 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 9:05:13 PM
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kenmac wrote:
Hii uchaguzi kila mtu apewe Form 34A yake ajibebe hadi national tallying center


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We will all be Chilobaes

BBI will solve it :)
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#27 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 9:06:25 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Baratang wrote:
bubethi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
People of Mt Kenya are are not so eager about exercising power.It is mainly about protecting their economic interests which they perceive to be under threat.

They will come out to vote regardless of who is opposing RAO. Voter turn out will most likely drop to below 50% when RAO quits politics.


Agree to this 100% as was the case during Moi-era elections.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Do not lie to yourselves. During the Moi era 1978 to 1988 the Mt Kenya region rarely averaged more than 30% on turn out because open rigging was the order of the day. Come 1992 and the turn out rose slightly above 35% during the first multiparty elections and the Matiba wave. It remained constant or somewhere there about up until 2002 where there were two opposing camps from the same region. In 2002 the average turn out was about 50% and this reigned in 2007 elections which became a game changer in Mt Kenya region.
In 2013, equiped with the memories of 2008, the average turn out short to 85%. In 2017 elections the average turn out was around 85%. The supreme court has just introduced another reason for mountaineers to beat their own turn out record. You can rest assured that the turn out will clock 95%. It may seem far fetched but, it will be the case.
Even if baba quits politics the turn out will still be high mainly because of the devolved political competitions.


Most mountaneers vote to stop Kimundu. Turn out may hit the ceiling this time.


@Kaka...I will tell you something for sure. Raila was very popular in Mt Kenya region right upto 2008. The mess he created during 2008 PEV will always work against him as a person in as far as mountaineers are concerned for as long as he will be seeking to be elected to the high office.

In case you may not be aware a certain ward in Kiambu (I can't remember which one) elected a Luo MCA.
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#28 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 9:10:16 PM
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kenmac wrote:
Hii uchaguzi kila mtu apewe Form 34A yake ajibebe hadi national tallying center

Laughing out loudly
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#29 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 9:46:45 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
kenmac wrote:
Hii uchaguzi kila mtu apewe Form 34A yake ajibebe hadi national tallying center

Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I am happy
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#30 Posted : Saturday, September 02, 2017 8:00:56 PM
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segemia wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Baratang wrote:
bubethi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
People of Mt Kenya are are not so eager about exercising power.It is mainly about protecting their economic interests which they perceive to be under threat.

They will come out to vote regardless of who is opposing RAO. Voter turn out will most likely drop to below 50% when RAO quits politics.


Agree to this 100% as was the case during Moi-era elections.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Do not lie to yourselves. During the Moi era 1978 to 1988 the Mt Kenya region rarely averaged more than 30% on turn out because open rigging was the order of the day. Come 1992 and the turn out rose slightly above 35% during the first multiparty elections and the Matiba wave. It remained constant or somewhere there about up until 2002 where there were two opposing camps from the same region. In 2002 the average turn out was about 50% and this reigned in 2007 elections which became a game changer in Mt Kenya region.
In 2013, equiped with the memories of 2008, the average turn out short to 85%. In 2017 elections the average turn out was around 85%. The supreme court has just introduced another reason for mountaineers to beat their own turn out record. You can rest assured that the turn out will clock 95%. It may seem far fetched but, it will be the case.
Even if baba quits politics the turn out will still be high mainly because of the devolved political competitions.


Most mountaneers vote to stop Kimundu. Turn out may hit the ceiling this time.


@Kaka...I will tell you something for sure. Raila was very popular in Mt Kenya region right upto 2008. The mess he created during 2008 PEV will always work against him as a person in as far as mountaineers are concerned for as long as he will be seeking to be elected to the high office.

In case you may not be aware a certain ward in Kiambu (I can't remember which one) elected a Luo MCA.


I didn't say Kikuyu's hate Luos.They only fear RAO.He always talks about lowering house rent(which his supporters understand to be no rent at all),land repossession and other anti business rhetoric. This is what drives the anti-kimundu sentiment. To them,RAO presidency means poverty and suffering akin to what the community suffered during the Mau Mau uprising.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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#31 Posted : Saturday, September 02, 2017 9:10:25 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
segemia wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Baratang wrote:
bubethi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
People of Mt Kenya are are not so eager about exercising power.It is mainly about protecting their economic interests which they perceive to be under threat.

They will come out to vote regardless of who is opposing RAO. Voter turn out will most likely drop to below 50% when RAO quits politics.


Agree to this 100% as was the case during Moi-era elections.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Do not lie to yourselves. During the Moi era 1978 to 1988 the Mt Kenya region rarely averaged more than 30% on turn out because open rigging was the order of the day. Come 1992 and the turn out rose slightly above 35% during the first multiparty elections and the Matiba wave. It remained constant or somewhere there about up until 2002 where there were two opposing camps from the same region. In 2002 the average turn out was about 50% and this reigned in 2007 elections which became a game changer in Mt Kenya region.
In 2013, equiped with the memories of 2008, the average turn out short to 85%. In 2017 elections the average turn out was around 85%. The supreme court has just introduced another reason for mountaineers to beat their own turn out record. You can rest assured that the turn out will clock 95%. It may seem far fetched but, it will be the case.
Even if baba quits politics the turn out will still be high mainly because of the devolved political competitions.


Most mountaneers vote to stop Kimundu. Turn out may hit the ceiling this time.


@Kaka...I will tell you something for sure. Raila was very popular in Mt Kenya region right upto 2008. The mess he created during 2008 PEV will always work against him as a person in as far as mountaineers are concerned for as long as he will be seeking to be elected to the high office.

In case you may not be aware a certain ward in Kiambu (I can't remember which one) elected a Luo MCA.


I didn't say Kikuyu's hate Luos.They only fear RAO.He always talks about lowering house rent(which his supporters understand to be no rent at all),land repossession and other anti business rhetoric. This is what drives the anti-kimundu sentiment. To them,RAO presidency means poverty and suffering akin to what the community suffered during the Mau Mau uprising.


Mountaineers do not fear Raila. It is his policies and intentions that they hate.
What they hate most about him is his crooked mind of wanting the mountaineers to be confined into around the mountain. He said that in 2007 during the 41 against 1 song and repeated the same in 2017 in Kajiado.
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#32 Posted : Saturday, September 02, 2017 9:16:56 PM
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As NASA is showing some dance moves celebrating the court decision,

https://www.standardmedi...move-on-the-dance-floor

UhuRuto are on full throttle in the field then after 60 days we are told kimeibiwo tena
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Baratang
#33 Posted : Friday, September 08, 2017 1:24:07 AM
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freiks wrote:
As NASA is showing some dance moves celebrating the court decision,

https://www.standardmedi...move-on-the-dance-floor

UhuRuto are on full throttle in the field then after 60 days we are told kimeibiwo tena


This was Kimilili in Bungoma county yesterday.



Seems za Nasa hazinja anza kuingia...the mammuthus.
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#34 Posted : Friday, September 08, 2017 6:17:58 AM
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Baratang wrote:
freiks wrote:
As NASA is showing some dance moves celebrating the court decision,

https://www.standardmedi...move-on-the-dance-floor

UhuRuto are on full throttle in the field then after 60 days we are told kimeibiwo tena


This was Kimilili in Bungoma county yesterday.



Seems za Nasa hazinja anza kuingia...the mammuthus.


Baba has a lead of 1.5 m votes which was verifiable from the servers. His votes are still in those servers and will pop up on Oct 17th.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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#35 Posted : Friday, September 08, 2017 7:20:05 AM
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Gathige wrote:
Baratang wrote:
freiks wrote:
As NASA is showing some dance moves celebrating the court decision,

https://www.standardmedi...move-on-the-dance-floor

UhuRuto are on full throttle in the field then after 60 days we are told kimeibiwo tena


This was Kimilili in Bungoma county yesterday.



Seems za Nasa hazinja anza kuingia...the mammuthus.


Baba has a lead of 1.5 m votes which was verifiable from the servers. His votes are still in those servers and will pop up on Oct 17th.



Oh yes because it is servers that will be voting.
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