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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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chiaroscuro wrote:Njung'e wrote:The "secessionists" have conveniently curved off Garissa,Lamu,Narok, Kajiado,Pokot and Samburu even though the said counties voted overwhelmingly for Uhuruto. If they left them out, then , Nyanza, Western and Turkana would become two landlocked enclaves. Funny  Like This:  Come slowly kaka... why are you giving them the bitter pill? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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masukuma wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:Njung'e wrote:The "secessionists" have conveniently curved off Garissa,Lamu,Narok, Kajiado,Pokot and Samburu even though the said counties voted overwhelmingly for Uhuruto. If they left them out, then , Nyanza, Western and Turkana would become two landlocked enclaves. Funny Like This: Come slowly kaka... why are you giving them the bitter pill? Thought currently Pungoma  iko ndani ndani ndani? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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Half those counties marked Orange don't have the numbers to secede. 60, 70% support is too low. You need 90%+ support i.e. a large segment of the population willing to die for the cause otherwise you'll have to deal with large internal rebellions easily exploited by your enemies. Kisii and Nyamira are virtually 50% Jubilee. Turkana has Jubilee MPs including I think the Women Rep. Hata Tana River, Taita Taveta, Bungoma, Machakos and Kitui haziendi mahali. If you want to know this thing is just another keyboard warriors project, look at the online petition. It had just 17,000 people onboard as at yesterday. A tiny number considering RAO received nearly 7 million votes. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:Njung'e wrote:The "secessionists" have conveniently curved off Garissa,Lamu,Narok, Kajiado,Pokot and Samburu even though the said counties voted overwhelmingly for Uhuruto. If they left them out, then , Nyanza, Western and Turkana would become two landlocked enclaves. Funny Like This: Come slowly kaka... why are you giving them the bitter pill? Thought currently Pungoma iko ndani ndani ndani? It's a matter of perspective!! ask each of them wanataka kuenda Canaan ama wabaki Misri!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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On a related note and looking at that map, I wonder whether Lamu was chosen as the site of a new port for more than just technical considerations. Ni kama the 'Pwani si Kenya' movement made people start to think of having a less politically-polarized alternative to Mombasa. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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innairobi wrote:On a related note and looking at that map, I wonder whether Lamu was chosen as the site of a new port for more than just technical considerations. Ni kama the 'Pwani si Kenya' movement made people start to think of having a less politically-polarized alternative to Mombasa. You can't have a sea port without a coast! Ulitaka LAPSET ianze wapi? Kitui?
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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chiaroscuro wrote:innairobi wrote:On a related note and looking at that map, I wonder whether Lamu was chosen as the site of a new port for more than just technical considerations. Ni kama the 'Pwani si Kenya' movement made people start to think of having a less politically-polarized alternative to Mombasa. You can't have a sea port without a coast! Ulitaka LAPSET ianze wapi? Kitui? Hauelewi. Kenya's coastline is 600 kilometres long. There's probably 5,000 locations where you can build a new port. I'm just speculating on why Lamu. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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innairobi wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:innairobi wrote:On a related note and looking at that map, I wonder whether Lamu was chosen as the site of a new port for more than just technical considerations. Ni kama the 'Pwani si Kenya' movement made people start to think of having a less politically-polarized alternative to Mombasa. You can't have a sea port without a coast! Ulitaka LAPSET ianze wapi? Kitui? Hauelewi. Kenya's coastline is 600 kilometres long. There's probably 5,000 locations where you can build a new port. I'm just speculating on why Lamu. Lamu has a natural deep harbour which is also well sheltered from strong waves and currents just like kilindini. You cant have a port anywhere on the coastline including on the white sandy beaches of diani.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:Njung'e wrote:The "secessionists" have conveniently curved off Garissa,Lamu,Narok, Kajiado,Pokot and Samburu even though the said counties voted overwhelmingly for Uhuruto. If they left them out, then , Nyanza, Western and Turkana would become two landlocked enclaves. Funny Like This: Come slowly kaka... why are you giving them the bitter pill? Thought currently Pungoma iko ndani ndani ndani? Even kwale voted for a Jubilee governor, while taita taveta kicked out the odm governor and voted for an independent. So the proposed new republic is even much smaller and fragmented.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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hardwood wrote:innairobi wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:innairobi wrote:On a related note and looking at that map, I wonder whether Lamu was chosen as the site of a new port for more than just technical considerations. Ni kama the 'Pwani si Kenya' movement made people start to think of having a less politically-polarized alternative to Mombasa. You can't have a sea port without a coast! Ulitaka LAPSET ianze wapi? Kitui? Hauelewi. Kenya's coastline is 600 kilometres long. There's probably 5,000 locations where you can build a new port. I'm just speculating on why Lamu. Lamu has a natural deep harbour which is also well sheltered from strong waves and currents just like kilindini. You cant have a port anywhere on the coastline including on the white sandy beaches of diani. aiii yawa! hapa watu hawaelewi kitu inaitwa figure of speech? you are too literal in interpretation. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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I say... hata sisi tunaweza pendeka! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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hardwood wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:Njung'e wrote:The "secessionists" have conveniently curved off Garissa,Lamu,Narok, Kajiado,Pokot and Samburu even though the said counties voted overwhelmingly for Uhuruto. If they left them out, then , Nyanza, Western and Turkana would become two landlocked enclaves. Funny Like This: Come slowly kaka... why are you giving them the bitter pill? Thought currently Pungoma iko ndani ndani ndani? Even kwale voted for a Jubilee governor, while taita taveta kicked out the odm governor and voted for an independent. So the proposed new republic is even much smaller and fragmented. Taveta ni Wiper! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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This too. The word Kenya is a corruption of Kirinyaga (Came from a Mkamba chief who pronounced Kirinyaga as "Kiinya"). why would the people of that republic still want anything to do with the mountain? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Njung'e wrote: If they left them out, then , Nyanza, Western and Turkana would become two landlocked enclaves. Funny FACT is those foreigners who have funded Rao for the past ten years have been about oil, specifically the Turkana find, of course people will be told the division and politics is about "our tribe, "kikuyus" e.tc A good example is the pipeline fiasco where Rao brokered for TZ. when someones children have 500 million in the bank from "donors to the poor", while the poors mans children who are the supposed beneficiaries are shot buy stray bullets as fools go around yelling for their tribe and some ngo's that keep them poor and bargain for foreignors. Foreigners are experts at messing up stupid countries using "oil" and ngo's, they usually know some greedy buffon will call for secession where oil is found in some "stupid country" and bring war under all sorts of childish and stupid arguments, it all about oil and tumbo zao na za watoto wao with hundreds of million in accounts. REMEMBER  Mr Miguna Miguna, the PM’s former advisor for coalition affairs, claims in his new book that Mr Odinga has steadily built up his personal wealth over the past five years, cutting deals with regional leaders and some businessmen with questionable backgrounds in fields ranging from mining concessions in the DRC to oil deals in Uganda.Raila Odinga’s big break came in 2001 soon after he led his party, NDP, into a merger with KANU, the then ruling party. As Energy Minister in Moi’s government he was introduced to the family of Sheikh Abdukeder AlBakari, one of the richest families in Saudi Arabia with interests in petroleum drilling, petroleum exploration and export in the Middle East, Asia, USA and Africa...Raila struck a lucrative deal with Energem whereby the Canadian firm bought 55 per cent of the Kisumu Molasses plant. Sources say that the Odinga family was paid over US$ 5 million (about Kshs 420 million) to relinquish the control of the molasses plant. The Odinga family had paid only Kshs 3.6 million for the property.
e.t.c e.t.c A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Kiambu, Murang'a, Nyeri, Kirinyaga, Nyandarua, Embu, Tharaka Nithi and Meru Counties have a surface area of 23k km2 with a population of over 8M people which compares with Rwanda which is also Landlocked, with a land area of 26k km2 and a population of 12M. That "True Kenya" surface area is bigger than 77 other recognized Nations and also that Population is larger than 123 other recognized Nations! Mind you, Nairobi, Laikipia and Nakuru Counties are not even included. So, vitisho za peni mbili pelekeni mbali. Ukichengwa, Tulia Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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Presidential  Governors  Senators  Women Reps  MPs  All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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The real secession needed for now is Luo Nyanza from Odinga family. work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Tokyo wrote:The real secession needed for now is Luo Nyanza from Odinga family. Honestly ni Mungu tu (your problem with God aside), lakini ni Mungu tu anaweza saidia hawa watu  escape, for real. They revere him, or really fear him. Fact is fear of being bewitched is a huge factor in the community and the Odingas are said to have some clout with the council of elders and if they point a special 'magic hand' at you, kwisha wewe!!!!, has a name in luo i forgot Nyongo tried, stoned! Orengo tried, stoned! Tuju, stoned! e.t.c, you simply can't succeed. This kind of 'mystic stuff' is the problem there, folks really believe such things, it's like kisii and 'burning witches' e.t.c, some of 'these problems' from history will take time, and education, I honestly expected a lot of them would sincerely vote for Uhuru because of PERFORMANCE, i was given the above explanation. I personally witnessed two people being assaulted by naswa sycophants over this election season just for stating their preference. Personally I never ever talk about raira for fear, even to my best friends, if you mention him i just shut up coz they actually worship the tired useless fellow. Am reminded of how people worship even cows and give maximum respect to the cows. Can't explain some things about people A New Kenya
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