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Launch of Campaign for Electoral Justice in Kenya
Iganamagana
#11 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:37:58 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
Huyu jamaa is still in siasa mode. We need to settle and do other things.



For him, siasa is a full time Job and very profitable business. The monthly contributions from MPs, Political party funds kitty, nomination fees etc makes him very rich. For him it is business and presidency a collateral benefit.

He flies Business class, takes up residence at presidential suites in hotel, dines at fine restaurants just like top CEOs. Actually he has been the most successful CEO of Politics PLC.


Very true. You do not expect him to retire in bondo and look after cattle and goats. He will be with us (political scene) for a long long time....2022 and beyond. Also many in the opposition need him to be around to help their re-election in 2022. The only way they can be elected is by hanging on baba's tailcoats. Baba has become an institution.


Sawa. Naelewa. Lakini siasa kila siku is becoming irritating. We can focus on other things especially Maendeleo.
Gathige
#12 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:42:38 AM
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madollar wrote:
Is "electoral justice" the new "chebukati +chiloba must go" ? What's it end game you cannot send people to the streets aimlessly.



The end game is to keep Baba politically occupied until 2022 so as to remain politically relevant. Then in 2022 he will use it as a vehicle for political office.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
hardwood
#13 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:45:34 AM
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madollar wrote:
Is "electoral justice" the new "chebukati +chiloba must go" ? What's it end game you cannot send people to the streets aimlessly.


Exactly. The aim is to remove IEBC like he did with the Issack Hassan team. He's already accused them of using algorithms to manufacture "vifaranga vya compyuta". He must get a new referee for his 2022 match....as has always been his habit. Because he always blames the ref for his loss, and not his poor game.
Muheani
#14 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:47:26 AM
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Gathige wrote:
madollar wrote:
Is "electoral justice" the new "chebukati +chiloba must go" ? What's it end game you cannot send people to the streets aimlessly.



The end game is to keep Baba politically occupied until 2022 so as to remain politically relevant. Then in 2022 he will use it as a vehicle for political office.



But he told FT he is done with the elective politics? Ama?
hardwood
#15 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:58:39 AM
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Muheani wrote:
Gathige wrote:
madollar wrote:
Is "electoral justice" the new "chebukati +chiloba must go" ? What's it end game you cannot send people to the streets aimlessly.



The end game is to keep Baba politically occupied until 2022 so as to remain politically relevant. Then in 2022 he will use it as a vehicle for political office.



But he told FT he is done with the elective politics? Ama?


He'll say that he was misquoted....kama kawaida.
limanika
#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:59:56 AM
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Rao doesn't understand even himself. A part of him would like to contest 2022, another part says no. What is clear, however, is that politics and Rao are one and the same thing. He cannot stop politics and what is more likely next 5 yrs he will (subconsciously, without his own control) try to reinvent and reengineer pples perceptions so by 22' everyone will be saying 'ndio baba'. Remember pre 07 when everyone believed rao is 'unelectable' and kalooser kept topping the charts? By 07, he had published a book, done so many other things to change perceptions so much so kalooser wasnt qualified to tie his shoes.

So, long and short is that rao isn't exiting politics any time soon. Only thing you can do is try to manage him, or his outbursts...
Gathige
#17 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:47:04 PM
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limanika wrote:
Rao doesn't understand even himself. A part of him would like to contest 2022, another part says no. What is clear, however, is that politics and Rao are one and the same thing. He cannot stop politics and what is more likely next 5 yrs he will (subconsciously, without his own control) try to reinvent and reengineer pples perceptions so by 22' everyone will be saying 'ndio baba'. Remember pre 07 when everyone believed rao is 'unelectable' and kalooser kept topping the charts? By 07, he had published a book, done so many other things to change perceptions so much so kalooser wasnt qualified to tie his shoes.

So, long and short is that rao isn't exiting politics any time soon. Only thing you can do is try to manage him, or his outbursts...



There is also a large group of loyalists around him whose only access to power hinges around RAO. These group would like to keep him perpetually in the limelight so they can remain relevant and keep them selves in positions. These are the hangers-ons who would not like RAO to leave the scene as they would be rendered irrelevant.

When you look on the other side, UMK and WSR loyalists either lost or they have a life of their own independent of the axis.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
2012
#18 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:02:31 PM
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Interesting how elections can only be free and fair when Raila wins.

Wasn't he commending 001 for winning with 66% in the sham elections?

BBI will solve it
:)
Much Know
#19 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:12:18 PM
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The crux of the issue lies with the "don't have sex tonight" command that was given on the decree of a witchdoctor somewhere in S. Africa, on the eve of elections. You all know from somewhere primary school social science and philosophy 'power' is an aphrodisiac. It was a "throbbing election" and naswa had been promised by ambithology eti "leo, leo tutapumzika vizuri, uta-release stress yote kwangu style zote", lakini badae...mara ngoja kidogo, mara utaingisha kishwa leo usiku, uko na pesa? even twerking, entering the keja together, only finally, to be denied. The naswa jamaas will not relax from the election easily. But they must control themselves like men, please, THERE ARE SWEETER THINGS THAN SEX!!!, Self control is very important, accept what has happened and know what to do next, don't turn to violence, rape, lies e.t.c Shame on you Kuwa mungwana na ujicontrol.
Ras Kienyeji Man
mobutu123
#20 Posted : Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:34:45 PM
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What's this obsession with raila? u are unknowingly raising his status to that of a small god!!
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