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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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washiku wrote:Who is likely to be the leader of minority? This house will need a very serious, tough and thorough opposition.
Weta kwa Senate. I would prefer Mutula Junior here.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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I was counting on independents making a statement in central. They disappointed badly.
Like I had earlier confessed, I will be throwing my hat into the ring in 2022. But the prospect of running in Jubilee under WSR is a frightening prospect.
Feels like 1978 all over again.
My good friend Ngunjiri Wambugu was Rao's most staunch supporter in central in 2013. No other person from central has ever penned so many articles critical of Uhuru and Ruto than Wambugu. Today, he is the Mp-elect for Nyeri town on a Jubilee ticket.
We know Uhuru's political influence starts to decline from today. Who is likely to take the mantle ? And please don't tell me Mwangi Kiunjuri.
You people need to go back to work. Drove to the office in the morning and Nairobi is still empty.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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FRM2011 wrote:
I was counting on independents making a statement in central. They disappointed badly.
Like I had earlier confessed, I will be throwing my hat into the ring in 2022. But the prospect of running in Jubilee under WSR is a frightening prospect.
Feels like 1978 all over again.
My good friend Ngunjiri Wambugu was Rao's most staunch supporter in central in 2013. No other person from central has ever penned so many articles critical of Uhuru and Ruto than Wambugu. Today, he is the Mp-elect for Nyeri town on a Jubilee ticket.
We know Uhuru's political influence starts to decline from today. Who is likely to take the mantle ? And please don't tell me Mwangi Kiunjuri.
You people need to go back to work. Drove to the office in the morning and Nairobi is still empty.
I do not think Central is in a rush to replace Uhuru. There are chances there will be no front runner from Central come 2022 though a point-man or two will definitely emerge. I could be wrong but it is also an attractive prospect.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Funny that western with 2 Nasa principals ended up being Nasa's weakest link. Coast, Ukambani, Kisii (in Nyamira Baba shot himself in the foot by going after Matiangi) held up their end of the bargain fairly well. We Nasarians must now lie low like an envelope for the next 5 years, the people have decided. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2016 Posts: 225
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Iganamagana wrote:washiku wrote:Who is likely to be the leader of minority? This house will need a very serious, tough and thorough opposition.
Weta kwa Senate. I would prefer Mutula Junior here. Same here, will prefer Mutula jnr. He is balanced, articulate and can reach out to both sides of the house Reflection Eternal
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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gladiator wrote:Another Summary of the results
Governors (24 for majority)
Jubilee - 24, Jubilee Friendly - 3
NASA - 18
Independents - 2
Senators (24 for majority)
Jubilee - 24, Jubilee Friendly - 3
NASA - 20
National Assembly (169 for majority)
Jubilee - 25+140=165
Jubilee Friendly - 5+23=28
NASA - 16+110=126
Independents - 1+16=17
Notes
Most independents have allegiance to big parties.
Ford Kenya now pretty much limited to parts of Bungoma. ANC most popular in Western.
Wiper influence less from 2013
Jubilee able to re-elect about half of their defectors.
Lakini sera iko wapi kwa vyama?? We know why NASA has lost so many seats to Jubilee. Cord principals were out in the cold last 5 years and thus their pockets were virtually empty running into 2017 elections. To generate funds to compensate and run the nominations, they could only rely on nomination fees. Therefore, every party under NASA umbrella could not throw away any aspirants, so as to maximize fees. They ended up competing against themselves (what we call friendly fire... and ended up shooting themselves)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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washiku wrote:Who is likely to be the leader of minority? This house will need a very serious, tough and thorough opposition.
Why does the house need an opposition yet the majority prevailed, I would rather the opposition focuses on developing alternative views and not opposing gava for the sake. Let Kenyan's reap what they sowed for the next 5 years, less politics is what we now need going forward. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Uram wrote:Tokyo wrote:All elected members in Lamu county from Governor to MCA all Jubilee Nope. Lamu West captured by Maendeleo Chap Chap You're right Hon Muiruri Muthama work to prosper
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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limanika wrote:gladiator wrote:Another Summary of the results
Governors (24 for majority)
Jubilee - 24, Jubilee Friendly - 3
NASA - 18
Independents - 2
Senators (24 for majority)
Jubilee - 24, Jubilee Friendly - 3
NASA - 20
National Assembly (169 for majority)
Jubilee - 25+140=165
Jubilee Friendly - 5+23=28
NASA - 16+110=126
Independents - 1+16=17
Notes
Most independents have allegiance to big parties.
Ford Kenya now pretty much limited to parts of Bungoma. ANC most popular in Western.
Wiper influence less from 2013
Jubilee able to re-elect about half of their defectors.
Lakini sera iko wapi kwa vyama?? We know why NASA has lost so many seats to Jubilee. Cord principals were out in the cold last 5 years and thus their pockets were virtually empty running into 2017 elections. To generate funds to compensate and run the nominations, they could only rely on nomination fees. Therefore, every party under NASA umbrella could not throw away any aspirants, so as to maximize fees. They ended up competing against themselves (what we call friendly fire... and ended up shooting themselves) But their bravado convinced us they had their act together.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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FRM2011 wrote:
I was counting on independents making a statement in central. They disappointed badly.
Like I had earlier confessed, I will be throwing my hat into the ring in 2022. But the prospect of running in Jubilee under WSR is a frightening prospect.
Feels like 1978 all over again.
My good friend Ngunjiri Wambugu was Rao's most staunch supporter in central in 2013. No other person from central has ever penned so many articles critical of Uhuru and Ruto than Wambugu. Today, he is the Mp-elect for Nyeri town on a Jubilee ticket.
We know Uhuru's political influence starts to decline from today. Who is likely to take the mantle ? And please don't tell me Mwangi Kiunjuri.
You people need to go back to work. Drove to the office in the morning and Nairobi is still empty.
Peter Kenneth if he lowers his pride and redeem himself work to prosper
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Iganamagana wrote:limanika wrote:gladiator wrote:Another Summary of the results
Governors (24 for majority)
Jubilee - 24, Jubilee Friendly - 3
NASA - 18
Independents - 2
Senators (24 for majority)
Jubilee - 24, Jubilee Friendly - 3
NASA - 20
National Assembly (169 for majority)
Jubilee - 25+140=165
Jubilee Friendly - 5+23=28
NASA - 16+110=126
Independents - 1+16=17
Notes
Most independents have allegiance to big parties.
Ford Kenya now pretty much limited to parts of Bungoma. ANC most popular in Western.
Wiper influence less from 2013
Jubilee able to re-elect about half of their defectors.
Lakini sera iko wapi kwa vyama?? We know why NASA has lost so many seats to Jubilee. Cord principals were out in the cold last 5 years and thus their pockets were virtually empty running into 2017 elections. To generate funds to compensate and run the nominations, they could only rely on nomination fees. Therefore, every party under NASA umbrella could not throw away any aspirants, so as to maximize fees. They ended up competing against themselves (what we call friendly fire... and ended up shooting themselves) But their bravado convinced us they had their act together. Beyond that public face full of bravado, there is intense sibling rivalry if you just scratch the surface...including attempts by individual parties to fetch largest number of MPs so as to get larger share of political party funds, to fetch large number of governors who will clandestinely divert funds to the principals, etc. All this has worked against NASA
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Will baby owino run his mouth in Parliament, will he be the next luo kingpin now that the one bullet is spent, I will be also watching,Moha, Jaguar,ngunjiri wambugu and the young guy from meru,NASA is unlikely to keep together and the guys will start to realign for 2022 seeing that now the field is wide open both in NASA and JAP, in 2022 we shall see ruto,joho,kalonzo etc we might have at least five heavy weights To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Tokyo wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
I was counting on independents making a statement in central. They disappointed badly.
Like I had earlier confessed, I will be throwing my hat into the ring in 2022. But the prospect of running in Jubilee under WSR is a frightening prospect.
Feels like 1978 all over again.
My good friend Ngunjiri Wambugu was Rao's most staunch supporter in central in 2013. No other person from central has ever penned so many articles critical of Uhuru and Ruto than Wambugu. Today, he is the Mp-elect for Nyeri town on a Jubilee ticket.
We know Uhuru's political influence starts to decline from today. Who is likely to take the mantle ? And please don't tell me Mwangi Kiunjuri.
You people need to go back to work. Drove to the office in the morning and Nairobi is still empty.
Peter Kenneth if he lowers his pride and redeem himself PK is done. It will be the young MP for Kikuyu, Kimani Ichagua. Loved by everyone i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 784 Location: ant hill - red hill
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harrydre wrote:Tokyo wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
I was counting on independents making a statement in central. They disappointed badly.
Like I had earlier confessed, I will be throwing my hat into the ring in 2022. But the prospect of running in Jubilee under WSR is a frightening prospect.
Feels like 1978 all over again.
My good friend Ngunjiri Wambugu was Rao's most staunch supporter in central in 2013. No other person from central has ever penned so many articles critical of Uhuru and Ruto than Wambugu. Today, he is the Mp-elect for Nyeri town on a Jubilee ticket.
We know Uhuru's political influence starts to decline from today. Who is likely to take the mantle ? And please don't tell me Mwangi Kiunjuri.
You people need to go back to work. Drove to the office in the morning and Nairobi is still empty.
Peter Kenneth if he lowers his pride and redeem himself PK is done. It will be the young MP for Kikuyu, Kimani Ichagua. Loved by everyone Possibly Irungu Kang'ata The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Funny that western with 2 Nasa principals ended up being Nasa's weakest link. Coast, Ukambani, Kisii (in Nyamira Baba shot himself in the foot by going after Matiangi) held up their end of the bargain fairly well.
We Nasarians must now lie low like an envelope for the next 5 years, the people have decided. You must never lie low. This country may not survive without a powerful opposition. We want to hear noise from the other side whenever we praise the Govt, because we hold no monopoly of ideas. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:washiku wrote:Who is likely to be the leader of minority? This house will need a very serious, tough and thorough opposition.
Why does the house need an opposition yet the majority prevailed, I would rather the opposition focuses on developing alternative views and not opposing gava for the sake. Let Kenyan's reap what they sowed for the next 5 years, less politics is what we now need going forward. May I remind you politicians are not our friends per se. The monster called parliament if left unchecked can be great tragedy. We don't need an opposition that opposes for the sake but one that opposes for the right reasons.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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washiku wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:washiku wrote:Who is likely to be the leader of minority? This house will need a very serious, tough and thorough opposition.
Why does the house need an opposition yet the majority prevailed, I would rather the opposition focuses on developing alternative views and not opposing gava for the sake. Let Kenyan's reap what they sowed for the next 5 years, less politics is what we now need going forward. May I remind you politicians are not our friends per se. The monster called parliament if left unchecked can be great tragedy. We don't need an opposition that opposes for the sake but one that opposes for the right reasons. I think we have been pushing for majority. It is the result of democracy so let us accept them beacuse that is what the people of Kenya wants. I am for this gava 100%, let us compare notes in 2020  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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FRM2011 wrote:
I was counting on independents making a statement in central. They disappointed badly.
Like I had earlier confessed, I will be throwing my hat into the ring in 2022. But the prospect of running in Jubilee under WSR is a frightening prospect.
Feels like 1978 all over again.
My good friend Ngunjiri Wambugu was Rao's most staunch supporter in central in 2013. No other person from central has ever penned so many articles critical of Uhuru and Ruto than Wambugu. Today, he is the Mp-elect for Nyeri town on a Jubilee ticket.
We know Uhuru's political influence starts to decline from today. Who is likely to take the mantle ? And please don't tell me Mwangi Kiunjuri.
You people need to go back to work. Drove to the office in the morning and Nairobi is still empty.
If Wakahare aka Waititu plays his card nicely he is most likely. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,718
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Flo-ology wrote:Iganamagana wrote:washiku wrote:Who is likely to be the leader of minority? This house will need a very serious, tough and thorough opposition.
Weta kwa Senate. I would prefer Mutula Junior here. Same here, will prefer Mutula jnr. He is balanced, articulate and can reach out to both sides of the house There are young men with good heads on their shoulders and if they avoid playing dirty and stick to the issues they can do good job of keeping the government on its toes. I am thinking of Mutula Kilonzo Jnr of Makueni, Moses Kajwang' of Homa Bay and Okoth of Kibra. It should also be a great time for leaders in Jubilee to offer offer constructive criticism from within the party without being blindingly loyal to UK, Ruto or Duale. Jubilee Senator Kang'ata of Muranga and MP Kimani Ichung'wa should step up and release the party from the likes of Moses Kuria and Murkomen. I would love to see a truly independent Parliament.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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Kusadikika wrote:Flo-ology wrote:Iganamagana wrote:washiku wrote:Who is likely to be the leader of minority? This house will need a very serious, tough and thorough opposition.
Weta kwa Senate. I would prefer Mutula Junior here. Same here, will prefer Mutula jnr. He is balanced, articulate and can reach out to both sides of the house There are young men with good heads on their shoulders and if they avoid playing dirty and stick to the issues they can do good job of keeping the government on its toes. I am thinking of Mutula Kilonzo Jnr of Makueni, Moses Kajwang' of Homa Bay and Okoth of Kibra. It should also be a great time for leaders in Jubilee to offer offer constructive criticism from within the party without being blindingly loyal to UK, Ruto or Duale. Jubilee Senator Kang'ata of Muranga and MP Kimani Ichung'wa should step up and release the party from the likes of Moses Kuria and Murkomen. I would love to see a truly independent Parliament. That depends on whose agenda is being pushed. It will take some time before it happens, but we are on the right tracks. When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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