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Wakanyugi wrote:Kratos wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:urstill1 wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:timizo wrote:Muthamaki has been out maneuvered. His deputy holds the real power and influence in Kenya. Muthamaki has resulted to trying to show that he is the most powerful African Leader......and this is one way of doing that....That position is just a liability to Kenya......may be to massage some peoples ego's Even if it is for ego, I believe Amina deserves it. She is one of the best CS's in Muthamaki's Cabinet. Hard working, no scandal, no drama...and this would be good training for a stab at the Presidency in 2022, ala, Hilary Clinton. Are you saying that because Ms Zuma turned down a second because many think that she may go for presidency in 2019? I don't know about Ms Zuma, although there were rumours she was eyeing an important sit in the ANC - which would seem to point to some political ambitions. I am not sure Amina has her eye on politics either, but I believe 2022 will be a toss up and a competent, untainted, female, Muslim, 'not those people' candidate will have a definite advantage. No chance for a muslim in Kenya just yet, we have a very strong (probably fundamental) Christian society Don't be too sure. If Amina can capture the Coast, Eastern and North Eastern blocks and benefit from the self destruction of central, rift valley and western vote blocks, she must might just 'pitia kati yao.' Also don't underestimate the disgust that Kenyans have with the two dynasties that have monopolized politics for most of our independence era. The country is just waiting for a Trump to help them channel that disgust into a revolution. Trump mainly won as an advancement of the "isms" that he represents so that argument is flawed. No mater. Amina would make a refreshing change if she ever decides to run for President. I doubt if she has the balls for it though. How would an Amina-Matiang'i or a Matiang'i Amina ticket fair?
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washiku wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Kratos wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:urstill1 wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:timizo wrote:Muthamaki has been out maneuvered. His deputy holds the real power and influence in Kenya. Muthamaki has resulted to trying to show that he is the most powerful African Leader......and this is one way of doing that....That position is just a liability to Kenya......may be to massage some peoples ego's Even if it is for ego, I believe Amina deserves it. She is one of the best CS's in Muthamaki's Cabinet. Hard working, no scandal, no drama...and this would be good training for a stab at the Presidency in 2022, ala, Hilary Clinton. Are you saying that because Ms Zuma turned down a second because many think that she may go for presidency in 2019? I don't know about Ms Zuma, although there were rumours she was eyeing an important sit in the ANC - which would seem to point to some political ambitions. I am not sure Amina has her eye on politics either, but I believe 2022 will be a toss up and a competent, untainted, female, Muslim, 'not those people' candidate will have a definite advantage. No chance for a muslim in Kenya just yet, we have a very strong (probably fundamental) Christian society Don't be too sure. If Amina can capture the Coast, Eastern and North Eastern blocks and benefit from the self destruction of central, rift valley and western vote blocks, she must might just 'pitia kati yao.' Also don't underestimate the disgust that Kenyans have with the two dynasties that have monopolized politics for most of our independence era. The country is just waiting for a Trump to help them channel that disgust into a revolution. Trump mainly won as an advancement of the "isms" that he represents so that argument is flawed. No mater. Amina would make a refreshing change if she ever decides to run for President. I doubt if she has the balls for it though. How would an Amina-Matiang'i or a Matiang'i Amina ticket fair? Now that is a political marriage worth thinking about. Matiang'i today has the second highest youth cred after Sonko. Both he and Amina are performers, meaning years of high profile public service ahead of them. And Matiang'i would bring a hefty ethnic/regional vote base as dowry...especially if Baba will by then have faded into retirement - as a respected but harmless political gadfly. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Wakanyugi wrote:washiku wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Kratos wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:urstill1 wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:timizo wrote:Muthamaki has been out maneuvered. His deputy holds the real power and influence in Kenya. Muthamaki has resulted to trying to show that he is the most powerful African Leader......and this is one way of doing that....That position is just a liability to Kenya......may be to massage some peoples ego's Even if it is for ego, I believe Amina deserves it. She is one of the best CS's in Muthamaki's Cabinet. Hard working, no scandal, no drama...and this would be good training for a stab at the Presidency in 2022, ala, Hilary Clinton. Are you saying that because Ms Zuma turned down a second because many think that she may go for presidency in 2019? I don't know about Ms Zuma, although there were rumours she was eyeing an important sit in the ANC - which would seem to point to some political ambitions. I am not sure Amina has her eye on politics either, but I believe 2022 will be a toss up and a competent, untainted, female, Muslim, 'not those people' candidate will have a definite advantage. No chance for a muslim in Kenya just yet, we have a very strong (probably fundamental) Christian society Don't be too sure. If Amina can capture the Coast, Eastern and North Eastern blocks and benefit from the self destruction of central, rift valley and western vote blocks, she must might just 'pitia kati yao.' Also don't underestimate the disgust that Kenyans have with the two dynasties that have monopolized politics for most of our independence era. The country is just waiting for a Trump to help them channel that disgust into a revolution. Trump mainly won as an advancement of the "isms" that he represents so that argument is flawed. No mater. Amina would make a refreshing change if she ever decides to run for President. I doubt if she has the balls for it though. How would an Amina-Matiang'i or a Matiang'i Amina ticket fair? Now that is a political marriage worth thinking about. Matiang'i today has the second highest youth cred after Sonko. Both he and Amina are performers, meaning years of high profile public service ahead of them. And Matiang'i would bring a hefty ethnic/regional vote base as dowry...especially if Baba will by then have faded into retirement - as a respected but harmless political gadfly. The usual drank says kiuks will not vote for them  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Angelica _ann wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:washiku wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Kratos wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:urstill1 wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:timizo wrote:Muthamaki has been out maneuvered. His deputy holds the real power and influence in Kenya. Muthamaki has resulted to trying to show that he is the most powerful African Leader......and this is one way of doing that....That position is just a liability to Kenya......may be to massage some peoples ego's Even if it is for ego, I believe Amina deserves it. She is one of the best CS's in Muthamaki's Cabinet. Hard working, no scandal, no drama...and this would be good training for a stab at the Presidency in 2022, ala, Hilary Clinton. Are you saying that because Ms Zuma turned down a second because many think that she may go for presidency in 2019? I don't know about Ms Zuma, although there were rumours she was eyeing an important sit in the ANC - which would seem to point to some political ambitions. I am not sure Amina has her eye on politics either, but I believe 2022 will be a toss up and a competent, untainted, female, Muslim, 'not those people' candidate will have a definite advantage. No chance for a muslim in Kenya just yet, we have a very strong (probably fundamental) Christian society Don't be too sure. If Amina can capture the Coast, Eastern and North Eastern blocks and benefit from the self destruction of central, rift valley and western vote blocks, she must might just 'pitia kati yao.' Also don't underestimate the disgust that Kenyans have with the two dynasties that have monopolized politics for most of our independence era. The country is just waiting for a Trump to help them channel that disgust into a revolution. Trump mainly won as an advancement of the "isms" that he represents so that argument is flawed. No mater. Amina would make a refreshing change if she ever decides to run for President. I doubt if she has the balls for it though. How would an Amina-Matiang'i or a Matiang'i Amina ticket fair? Now that is a political marriage worth thinking about. Matiang'i today has the second highest youth cred after Sonko. Both he and Amina are performers, meaning years of high profile public service ahead of them. And Matiang'i would bring a hefty ethnic/regional vote base as dowry...especially if Baba will by then have faded into retirement - as a respected but harmless political gadfly. The usual drank says kiuks will not vote for them They need not to as long as the rest of Kenya does. 
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Wakanyugi wrote:timizo wrote:Muthamaki has been out maneuvered. His deputy holds the real power and influence in Kenya. Muthamaki has resulted to trying to show that he is the most powerful African Leader......and this is one way of doing that....That position is just a liability to Kenya......may be to massage some peoples ego's Even if it is for ego, I believe Amina deserves it. She is one of the best CS's in Muthamaki's Cabinet. Hard working, no scandal, no drama...and this would be good training for a stab at the Presidency in 2022, ala, Hilary Clinton. after watching that interview video i wonder what the best cs in the kenyan cabinet really equates to.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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washiku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:washiku wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Kratos wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:urstill1 wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:timizo wrote:Muthamaki has been out maneuvered. His deputy holds the real power and influence in Kenya. Muthamaki has resulted to trying to show that he is the most powerful African Leader......and this is one way of doing that....That position is just a liability to Kenya......may be to massage some peoples ego's Even if it is for ego, I believe Amina deserves it. She is one of the best CS's in Muthamaki's Cabinet. Hard working, no scandal, no drama...and this would be good training for a stab at the Presidency in 2022, ala, Hilary Clinton. Are you saying that because Ms Zuma turned down a second because many think that she may go for presidency in 2019? I don't know about Ms Zuma, although there were rumours she was eyeing an important sit in the ANC - which would seem to point to some political ambitions. I am not sure Amina has her eye on politics either, but I believe 2022 will be a toss up and a competent, untainted, female, Muslim, 'not those people' candidate will have a definite advantage. No chance for a muslim in Kenya just yet, we have a very strong (probably fundamental) Christian society Don't be too sure. If Amina can capture the Coast, Eastern and North Eastern blocks and benefit from the self destruction of central, rift valley and western vote blocks, she must might just 'pitia kati yao.' Also don't underestimate the disgust that Kenyans have with the two dynasties that have monopolized politics for most of our independence era. The country is just waiting for a Trump to help them channel that disgust into a revolution. Trump mainly won as an advancement of the "isms" that he represents so that argument is flawed. No mater. Amina would make a refreshing change if she ever decides to run for President. I doubt if she has the balls for it though. How would an Amina-Matiang'i or a Matiang'i Amina ticket fair? Now that is a political marriage worth thinking about. Matiang'i today has the second highest youth cred after Sonko. Both he and Amina are performers, meaning years of high profile public service ahead of them. And Matiang'i would bring a hefty ethnic/regional vote base as dowry...especially if Baba will by then have faded into retirement - as a respected but harmless political gadfly. The usual drank says kiuks will not vote for them They need not to as long as the rest of Kenya does. I find it odd that many people in the house of Mumbi seem to have bought into the Mutahi tyrrany of numbers BS. 2013 was actually first a tyranny of 2 tribes and 2 fellows motivated by fear, not numbers. No single ethnic group can win the presidency in Kenya on its own. Separate the Rift Valley/Central voting behemoth and everything is possible. And those who think the 'friendship' between Kikuyus and Kalenjins will never end (especially now the fear of ICC is no more) need to read Machiaveli. Or take a trip from Nakuru to Eldoret and ask yourself how come one city's economy has been growing by double digits and the other one barely. Who is investing in Nakuru and how come Eldoret airport is a ghost facility? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,040 Location: GA
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urstill1 wrote:How is this position important to Kenya? How has the outgoing office-holder helped SA? We seem to be spending tons of money lobbying fellow African countries to back the CS. Link Could go to the wire but south africa's media already calling it for Amina.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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hehehe i have been a victim of fake news. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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madollar wrote:urstill1 wrote:How is this position important to Kenya? How has the outgoing office-holder helped SA? We seem to be spending tons of money lobbying fellow African countries to back the CS. Link Could go to the wire but south africa's media already calling it for Amina. Wacha niulize swali ya ujinga. This best CS I keep hearing about amina, what does it mean ? And please don't tell me ICC. We know how that went down, dead witnesses and all. Ooh high profile visitors to Kenya. Yeah when Clinton went to Tanzania, who was their foreign minister. When Pope John Paul visited us in the 90s, who was the hardworking minister then ? I know my voice doesn't count here but I pray she doesn't get it. She only serves her appointment authority not Kenyans. "Athie akiumaga".
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FRM2011 wrote:madollar wrote:urstill1 wrote:How is this position important to Kenya? How has the outgoing office-holder helped SA? We seem to be spending tons of money lobbying fellow African countries to back the CS. Link Could go to the wire but south africa's media already calling it for Amina. Wacha niulize swali ya ujinga. This best CS I keep hearing about amina, what does it mean ? And please don't tell me ICC. We know how that went down, dead witnesses and all. Ooh high profile visitors to Kenya. Yeah when Clinton went to Tanzania, who was their foreign minister. When Pope John Paul visited us in the 90s, who was the hardworking minister then ? I know my voice doesn't count here but I pray she doesn't get it. She only serves her appointment authority not Kenyans. "Athie akiumaga". Your prayers will not be answered. I don't see anything wrong with wishing your fellow Kenyan good things in life. Even if the position will not benefit Kenyans, why should it go to Senegal (from a Kenyan perspective)?
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