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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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mkenyan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!! it is very relevant and far from useless I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Njung'e wrote:mkenyan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!! it is very relevant and far from useless I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict. I would understand if the question was about How the law protects or says about devolution. Knowing governors by name, age and size can be such a piece of work. Those governors have really eaten a lot, even fitting in someone's memory will lead to explosion. Eg, if you knew just this particular one, are you left with any memory space for any other?  
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washiku wrote:Njung'e wrote:mkenyan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!! it is very relevant and far from useless I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict. I would understand if the question was about How the law protects or says about devolution. Knowing governors by name, age and size can be such a piece of work. Those governors have really eaten a lot, even fitting in someone's memory will lead to explosion. Eg, if you knew just this particular one, are you left with any memory space for any other? Thanks bro!!!  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Njung'e wrote:mkenyan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!! it is very relevant and far from useless I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict. indeed. and to add on that, i would have to quote one facebook post by an ochiel dudley who has addressed it so well i have nothing useful to add: Quote: Administratively: The Chief Justice of the Republic of Kenya heads the third arm of government. We now have two levels of government. The judiciary is not devolved but under Article 6 must decentralize its services to all the counties. Mutunga has tripled the number of High Court stations, working with the governors directly. It's not acceptable for the Chief Justice to fail to know who the people that head the devolved level of government are. Do you think Ginsburg or Thomas can claim not to know who the governors of Arizona or California are? Or Chief Mahmood Mohammed of Nigeria the governors of Anambra or Kano states? Civics 101.
This is the jurisprudential value: The theory of a holistic interpretation of the Constitution streamlined in the CCK Case requires interpretation to take into account non-jural phenomena including Kenya's political, social, economic and historical context. Political context includes ''who is the current governor of X county'' As a judge, moreso Chief Justice, you must lift your eyes off the law books and become aware of the sociopolitical environment. The Governor he was asked about has been in the public eye. He has led a very vocal conflict with Meru County over county boundaries and has been summoned repeatedly to the Senate over public finance management issues and has been accused of issuing bouncing cheques. How will the judge resolve devolution issues when he does not what these issues are or who people involved in these issues are?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:urstill1 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:FRM2011 wrote:kaka2za wrote:Justice Mbogholi stands no chance.The monkey on his back is the dismissal of the Kibaki petition in 1998 on very flimsy grounds. @kaka2za, considering its Moi ruling the country now, wouldn't that ruling be a big Plus for him ? 100 years of KANU rule  Hata Kibaki ni Kanu tu. so its governor Mutua who will break this kanu thing in 2022 KANU may be in power but JSC is still dominated by Judicial activists! Grand Mullah knows what he did over there! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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mkenyan wrote:Njung'e wrote:mkenyan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!! it is very relevant and far from useless I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict. indeed. and to add on that, i would have to quote one facebook post by an ochiel dudley who has addressed it so well i have nothing useful to add: Quote: Administratively: The Chief Justice of the Republic of Kenya heads the third arm of government. We now have two levels of government. The judiciary is not devolved but under Article 6 must decentralize its services to all the counties. Mutunga has tripled the number of High Court stations, working with the governors directly. It's not acceptable for the Chief Justice to fail to know who the people that head the devolved level of government are. Do you think Ginsburg or Thomas can claim not to know who the governors of Arizona or California are? Or Chief Mahmood Mohammed of Nigeria the governors of Anambra or Kano states? Civics 101.
This is the jurisprudential value: The theory of a holistic interpretation of the Constitution streamlined in the CCK Case requires interpretation to take into account non-jural phenomena including Kenya's political, social, economic and historical context. Political context includes ''who is the current governor of X county'' As a judge, moreso Chief Justice, you must lift your eyes off the law books and become aware of the sociopolitical environment. The Governor he was asked about has been in the public eye. He has led a very vocal conflict with Meru County over county boundaries and has been summoned repeatedly to the Senate over public finance management issues and has been accused of issuing bouncing cheques. How will the judge resolve devolution issues when he does not what these issues are or who people involved in these issues are? Oh my! Kweli its awkward to be uninformed about things that are always in your face that demand no special effort on your part to know them.
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..yesterday Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession the GUY had intelligent answers though I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Siringi wrote:..yesterday
Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession
the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others. What is shocking was the following. Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support. Answer All life is sacred!!!!!!!! This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office. Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room. I can't wait to hear what the others have to say Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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alma1 wrote:Siringi wrote:..yesterday
Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession
the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others. What is shocking was the following. Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support. Answer All life is sacred!!!!!!!! This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office. Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room. I can't wait to hear what the others have to say @alma1 but the Katiba say so no? na Bibilia pia His answers have been lauded as very intelligent see "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Siringi wrote:alma1 wrote:Siringi wrote:..yesterday
Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession
the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others. What is shocking was the following. Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support. Answer All life is sacred!!!!!!!! This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office. Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room. I can't wait to hear what the others have to say @alma1 but the Katiba say so no? na Bibilia pia His answers have been lauded as very intelligent see My goodness Life is sacred can mean anything!!! Where does sacred mean "never die" in English? In fact, Jesus had to die it was sacred! I don't expect judges to make rulings out of soundbites. The katiba saying life is sacred does not mean "sacred" the seventh day way nor "sacred" the christian way etc etc. To me sacred may mean I don't want to burden my children with bills they cannot pay forever. Maybe not seventh day, but that's not my religion. I'm not a lawyer but that was the silliest excuse of an answer I have ever heard. Even the right wing lunatics that was Scalia was wise enough to write well thought out arguments not tweets in court. Githu Muigai asked a well thought out question that brought out the right wing nutcase that this guy may become in court. Interpreting Seventh Day Bibles is not part of his job. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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alma1 wrote:Siringi wrote:..yesterday
Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession
the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others. What is shocking was the following. Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support. Answer All life is sacred!!!!!!!! This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office. Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room. I can't wait to hear what the others have to say @alma I think the good Judge was right but the statement can be interpreted in different ways by different people.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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sheri wrote:alma1 wrote:Siringi wrote:..yesterday
Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession
the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others. What is shocking was the following. Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support. Answer All life is sacred!!!!!!!! This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office. Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room. I can't wait to hear what the others have to say @alma I think the good Judge was right but the statement can be interpreted in different ways by different people. Asked by madam @kobia is he knows someone in high offices whom he direct line and can call kikiumana in decision making process akasema sijui Speaker,sijui Mpig fulani...fulani fulani...I think alijikaranga. He should have said NONE. And should have said with finality that he only knows justice and that's what who he will call always. Ama what do u guys think? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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Civil Society making some noises at a presser about the process so far... thinks some questions are unconstitutional  "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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mkenyan wrote:Njung'e wrote:mkenyan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:[quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Siringi][size=7]
Very useless question for CJ's position!!! it is very relevant and far from useless I also think so. I would expect such a senior judge to spend his free time catching up on what goes on around him just in case it ends up on his desk........unless he is a porn addict. indeed. and to add on that, i would have to quote one facebook post by an ochiel dudley who has addressed it so well i have nothing useful to add: Quote: Administratively: The Chief Justice of the Republic of Kenya heads the third arm of government. We now have two levels of government. The judiciary is not devolved but under Article 6 must decentralize its services to all the counties. Mutunga has tripled the number of High Court stations, working with the governors directly. It's not acceptable for the Chief Justice to fail to know who the people that head the devolved level of government are. Do you think Ginsburg or Thomas can claim not to know who the governors of Arizona or California are? Or Chief Mahmood Mohammed of Nigeria the governors of Anambra or Kano states? Civics 101.
This is the jurisprudential value: The theory of a holistic interpretation of the Constitution streamlined in the CCK Case requires interpretation to take into account non-jural phenomena including Kenya's political, social, economic and historical context. Political context includes ''who is the current governor of X county'' As a judge, moreso Chief Justice, you must lift your eyes off the law books and become aware of the sociopolitical environment. The Governor he was asked about has been in the public eye. He has led a very vocal conflict with Meru County over county boundaries and has been summoned repeatedly to the Senate over public finance management issues and has been accused of issuing bouncing cheques. How will the judge resolve devolution issues when he does not what these issues are or who people involved in these issues are? that is funny, that Thomas guys never even speaks I doubt he even knows who the vice president is, he must think its Lynch or Sharpton
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,706
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Siringi wrote:Civil Society making some noises at a presser about the process so far... thinks some questions are unconstitutional There is no such thing as unconstitutional questions. Asking for a public high office is like going to shower in a river, you must be prepared to strip naked and be seen by all. Your employer is the people.....all people of Kenya. Have you thought about that? Some are educated some are not, some are religious some are not, some are very intelligent, most are not but they are all your employer and they can ask you anything they want. I am telling you if you understand the gravity of the job you are asking for you must be prepared to take in all the shit that comes with it including public scrutiny like this. Wacha nikae na kazi yangu ya mjengo, I only answer to one guy, the foreman .
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alma1 wrote:Siringi wrote:..yesterday
Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession
the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others. What is shocking was the following. Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support.Answer All life is sacred!!!!!!!! This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office. Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room. I can't wait to hear what the others have to say The answer is correct coz the qsn is flawed, how does someone on life support sign anything "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,706
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I think all CJ candidates need this girl to help them prepare for their interviews:
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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How did Nzamba Kitonga perform a tweep tole me they as asked Nzamba Kitonga if he believes in witchcraft  Must be that Kamba Oathing thing to resolve issues za wizi no? "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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sheri wrote:alma1 wrote:Siringi wrote:..yesterday
Maraga a 7th Day Adventist SDA wouldn't sit on Saturday even in case of time bound Presidential petition if appointed next CJ #MutungaSuccession
the GUY had intelligent answers though
I only have a problem with his fanatical Adventism If the fellow doesn't want to work on Saturday, they can always find others. What is shocking was the following. Asked by Githu Muigai what would you do if someone is sick in hospital and signs a statement that no one is contesting that they want to be put out of life support. Answer All life is sacred!!!!!!!! This fellow should not be in the judiciary let alone the chief justice office. Kweli these so called judges are so shallow? They don't know their governors, and are willing to bring their personal problems into a court room. I can't wait to hear what the others have to say @alma I think the good Judge was right but the statement can be interpreted in different ways by different people. That answer was very okay...and he is not a fanatical Adventist. possunt quia posse videntur
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