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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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kollabo wrote:Maasai vs Kisii (Kilgoris), Luo vs Kale (Chemelil), Pokomo vs Somali (Malindi) & Meru vs Borana (Isiolo). 2PM vs Otoyo fighting the proxy war in wazua! Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:kollabo wrote:Maasai vs Kisii (Kilgoris), Luo vs Kale (Chemelil), Pokomo vs Somali (Malindi) & Meru vs Borana (Isiolo). 2PM vs Otoyo fighting the proxy war in wazua! actually not! people have always been fighting for a long time some of these conflicts will only end once people modernise since they are economic conflicts. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:Impunity wrote:kollabo wrote:Maasai vs Kisii (Kilgoris), Luo vs Kale (Chemelil), Pokomo vs Somali (Malindi) & Meru vs Borana (Isiolo). 2PM vs Otoyo fighting the proxy war in wazua! actually not! people have always been fighting for a long time some of these conflicts will only end once people modernise since they are economic conflicts. The wazua fight is also economic war? Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:Impunity wrote:kollabo wrote:Maasai vs Kisii (Kilgoris), Luo vs Kale (Chemelil), Pokomo vs Somali (Malindi) & Meru vs Borana (Isiolo). 2PM vs Otoyo fighting the proxy war in wazua! actually not! people have always been fighting for a long time some of these conflicts will only end once people modernise since they are economic conflicts. The wazua fight is also economic war? wazua fight is a 'kiwaru' war, its about making the other guys feel as bad as possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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keraka wrote:Impunity wrote:keraka wrote:I happen to know that place well(Thechemelil,Chemase,Majimbo, Kibigori, Chepsweta,Miwani axis) Tribal clashes in that region are not triggered by politics at all but rather by cattle rustling.The Nandis from up the hills will often come down the plains to restock every now and then when they feel like doing so.Then there is a contention of who are the real owners of majimbo nowonder the name. And why cant the LUOs retaliate by raiding the Nandis? Wanaogopa nini? Kila wakati ni kuibiwo kunakokucha. The current and past clashes are always as a result of that retaliation.Take for instance the current case.Luos armed and went up the hills to recover the stolen cattle and on failure to trace them rounded up a few Nandi owned herds they found on their way back and then the battle started. So the victims are supposed to take a deep breath and remain calm, and not retaliate, when their livestock are stolen?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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hardwood wrote:keraka wrote:Impunity wrote:keraka wrote:I happen to know that place well(Thechemelil,Chemase,Majimbo, Kibigori, Chepsweta,Miwani axis) Tribal clashes in that region are not triggered by politics at all but rather by cattle rustling.The Nandis from up the hills will often come down the plains to restock every now and then when they feel like doing so.Then there is a contention of who are the real owners of majimbo nowonder the name. And why cant the LUOs retaliate by raiding the Nandis? Wanaogopa nini? Kila wakati ni kuibiwo kunakokucha. The current and past clashes are always as a result of that retaliation.Take for instance the current case.Luos armed and went up the hills to recover the stolen cattle and on failure to trace them rounded up a few Nandi owned herds they found on their way back and then the battle started. So the victims are supposed to take a deep breath and remain calm, and not retaliate, when their livestock are stolen? Luo's are not natural raiders like the Nandi, so I dont see that happening. The Garment should take responsibility and restore peace hukos. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:hardwood wrote:keraka wrote:Impunity wrote:keraka wrote:I happen to know that place well(Thechemelil,Chemase,Majimbo, Kibigori, Chepsweta,Miwani axis) Tribal clashes in that region are not triggered by politics at all but rather by cattle rustling.The Nandis from up the hills will often come down the plains to restock every now and then when they feel like doing so.Then there is a contention of who are the real owners of majimbo nowonder the name. And why cant the LUOs retaliate by raiding the Nandis? Wanaogopa nini? Kila wakati ni kuibiwo kunakokucha. The current and past clashes are always as a result of that retaliation.Take for instance the current case.Luos armed and went up the hills to recover the stolen cattle and on failure to trace them rounded up a few Nandi owned herds they found on their way back and then the battle started. So the victims are supposed to take a deep breath and remain calm, and not retaliate, when their livestock are stolen? Luo's are not natural raiders like the Nandi, so I dont see that happening. The Garment should take responsibility and restore peace hukos. I gather Ole Kaparo and his cohesion team will be at ground Zero(Kibigori Junction market)not far from Majimbo Kesho Morning for reconcilliation.Hope it works this time coz witnessed many such forums convened by former Nyanza PCs. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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keraka wrote:harrydre wrote:hardwood wrote:keraka wrote:Impunity wrote:keraka wrote:I happen to know that place well(Thechemelil,Chemase,Majimbo, Kibigori, Chepsweta,Miwani axis) Tribal clashes in that region are not triggered by politics at all but rather by cattle rustling.The Nandis from up the hills will often come down the plains to restock every now and then when they feel like doing so.Then there is a contention of who are the real owners of majimbo nowonder the name. And why cant the LUOs retaliate by raiding the Nandis? Wanaogopa nini? Kila wakati ni kuibiwo kunakokucha. The current and past clashes are always as a result of that retaliation.Take for instance the current case.Luos armed and went up the hills to recover the stolen cattle and on failure to trace them rounded up a few Nandi owned herds they found on their way back and then the battle started. So the victims are supposed to take a deep breath and remain calm, and not retaliate, when their livestock are stolen? Luo's are not natural raiders like the Nandi, so I dont see that happening. The Garment should take responsibility and restore peace hukos. I gather Ole Kaparo and his cohesion team will be at ground Zero(Kibigori Junction market)not far from Majimbo Kesho Morning for reconcilliation.Hope it works this time coz witnessed many such forums convened by former Nyanza PCs. Luos feel that since bullets and tear gas has been used on them, gava is on the other side Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:keraka wrote:Impunity wrote:keraka wrote:I happen to know that place well(Thechemelil,Chemase,Majimbo, Kibigori, Chepsweta,Miwani axis) Tribal clashes in that region are not triggered by politics at all but rather by cattle rustling.The Nandis from up the hills will often come down the plains to restock every now and then when they feel like doing so.Then there is a contention of who are the real owners of majimbo nowonder the name. And why cant the LUOs retaliate by raiding the Nandis? Wanaogopa nini? Kila wakati ni kuibiwo kunakokucha. The current and past clashes are always as a result of that retaliation.Take for instance the current case.Luos armed and went up the hills to recover the stolen cattle and on failure to trace them rounded up a few Nandi owned herds they found on their way back and then the battle started. this stories are not new.... I remember even the legend of luanda magere gave us a glimpse of the conflict between these two communities. a couple of weeks back I was near ground zero and couldn't help but feel those hills made the Luos in the lake basin sitting ducks to attacks from the Nandi's on the hills. These nandi kaleos only like fighting at night, let them attack the LUOz and they will see cha mtema kuni. I remember how we tamed APs who were in Citihoppa and had come to vote for Kibaki in Kisumu, let the Kalenjin cattle rustlers be warned.
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