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The new excise duty as assented to by PORK
MaichBlack
#11 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 3:01:03 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
the economy has always been bad in Kenya, ask any poor person Its just that now the middle class loans have been touched they are feeling the effect, and their propensity for whining is know, did you really think the rich will just sit by as you attempt to move into their space. Expect the mitumba cars and labels to take a hike.

The middle class locked out the poor from their dimension, its now what the rich are doing to you, remember the rich are not complaining, they are actually gaining.

This is very theoretical!!!

The middle class have always borne the blunt of everything in Kenya!

Things are always relatively good for the lower class. Free Primary Education, Free Secondary Education, Free Maternity, Sunsidized fertiliser etc. Paid for by??? The middle class!

The middle class actually have had it worse. Even those who used to take their kids to select few nice public primary schools can no longer do so because those schools are now "flooded" because the schools are now free. The middle class fellow, after helping pay for free education and maternity has to go back to hospital and take his family to private schools and hospitals!!!

Lower class - Don't pay tax, Upper class - evade the tax! Middle class - Taxed on anything and everything!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
sitaki.kujulikana
#12 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 4:26:11 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
the economy has always been bad in Kenya, ask any poor person Its just that now the middle class loans have been touched they are feeling the effect, and their propensity for whining is know, did you really think the rich will just sit by as you attempt to move into their space. Expect the mitumba cars and labels to take a hike.

The middle class locked out the poor from their dimension, its now what the rich are doing to you, remember the rich are not complaining, they are actually gaining.

This is very theoretical!!!

The middle class have always borne the blunt of everything in Kenya!

Things are always relatively good for the lower class. Free Primary Education, Free Secondary Education, Free Maternity, Sunsidized fertiliser etc. Paid for by??? The middle class!

The middle class actually have had it worse. Even those who used to take their kids to select few nice public primary schools can no longer do so because those schools are now "flooded" because the schools are now free. The middle class fellow, after helping for free education and maternity has to go back to hospital and take his family to private schools and hospitals!!!

Lower class - Don't pay tax, Upper class - evade the tax! Middle class - Taxed on anything and everything!!!

you see the problem with middle class is that they think everything revolves around them, one misconception is the tax, they think that payee is the only tax, they forget vat, import, local council permits are also taxes.

Nothing is good for the lower class, the hospitals are crap, the free schooling is crap, the subsidized fertilizer is also crap since the bulk goes to the long distance middle class remote control farmers.

Now in the state of feeling special, the middle class went ahead and converted some public schools to be exclusive to their club, of course with the government paying for the teachers, that was reversed.

You see the middle class is like sossion and his gang, thinking that they are the reason the world goes round, they flood the few private hospitals meant for the rich, cause long queues as cashier struggle to confirm with their insurance companies whether they have exhausted their cover, or have to keep verifying their finger prints...
Mike Ock
#13 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 6:45:16 PM
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For me I've stopped this mambo ya kulalamika. Things have always been bad in this land called Kenya, ever since the Britons stepped foot on our land we have suffered. The only time we got a temporary reprieve was for a few short years after independence. In such an environment you can get stuck crying and crying, but that would be a mistake, you have to be a man of action. Huku Kenya ni kujipanga and the only ways to jipanga are:

1. Setting up/joining a well performing private company
2. Run away to a more developed country
3. Loot public funds

Choose whichever one your heart desires. Notice I have not included an option for saving the country. It's beyond repair at this point. Ni kujipanga tu sasa.
vky
#14 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 7:53:36 PM
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cars that sell for less than 750k are going to be hit the hardest, going by the current 20% excise duty these class of cars pay excise duty of between 57k - 80k, with the impending law the figure will shoot to 200k large, the cars here are vitz, demio na kadhalika

the next class are those that sell for between 800k - 1.2m these cars pay excise of between 85k - 140k, with the new law this will go up to 200k, cars here include axio, fielder, impreza (1.6) premio, allion etc

cars that sell for between 1.5m - 2.3m currently attract excise of between 150k - 180k, with the new law it will be 200k these ones will not feel the pinch too much, cars here include benz c180, passat, jetta, some foresters etc

cars that sell for more than 2.5m attract excise duty of 190k - >200k the effect here will be marginal increase and savings in cases where excise is >200k, cars include 4x4s benz etc

all the above is based on 7yr old newly imported used cars, the real gainers are going to be the guys who operate the locally used car market with units that sell for less than 700k
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mugo2of3
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:38:20 PM
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@vky, you have summarised it well.

0-3 year imports should ideally benefit but you can count the no. of imports in these range.

4-7 years which is typically >99% is the target of more millions for KRA.

PORK and Co. having an appetite for more and more money as usual have gone for the easy targets.

Cars will mint them money, Cigarettes and Beer Sin Tax come 2nd.
Then when they start taxing Del-Monte and Water, you know that we are doomed...
madollar
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 03, 2015 2:36:11 PM
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Future headlines "Thriving car yards shut down during the jubilee adminstration". Media will have field day on this one in 1 or 2 years kwanza when they compare with the kibaki days
MaichBlack
#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:02:07 PM
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This fixed taxes (As opposed to a percentage) are one of the most stupid things!!!

10 bob per litre o juice.

200k per car. Any car under 3 years

Sijui how much per 1000 sticks of cigarettes.

bla bla bla per litre of beer.

This are unfair taxes and deprive and disadvantage the people on the lower level of whatever it is!!!

Taxes should be a percentage so that if you buy a 10m car, you don't pay the same (or even lower) than the fellow who buys 500k car!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
sitaki.kujulikana
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 03, 2015 6:02:05 PM
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mugo2of3 wrote:
@vky, you have summarised it well.

0-3 year imports should ideally benefit but you can count the no. of imports in these range.

4-7 years which is typically >99% is the target of more millions for KRA.

PORK and Co. having an appetite for more and more money as usual have gone for the easy targets.

Cars will mint them money, Cigarettes and Beer Sin Tax come 2nd.
Then when they start taxing Del-Monte and Water, you know that we are doomed...

All those are luxuries including the juice and bottled water, you see they will never touch vat. I bet the demand for the cars won't go down, a guy who can afford 1m can afford an extra 100k for his luxury.
Ericsson
#19 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 6:23:17 AM
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At the end of the day choices have consequen;the jubilee governmentis messing up the economy but come 2017 we will go back to our tribal cocoons forget the problems they created for us in their first term and vote them in.
Its dangerous to have a leader who has never worked;they don't know what the masses are feeling.To them everything is okay and these are just opposition noises.
If u look at the career of Mwai Kibaki from education and career development and compare with the clowns we have you will see why we are suffering
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enyands
#20 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:04:57 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
At the end of the day choices have consequen;the jubilee governmentis messing up the economy but come 2017 we will go back to our tribal cocoons forget the problems they created for us in their first term and vote them in.
Its dangerous to have a leader who has never worked;they don't know what the masses are feeling.To them everything is okay and these are just opposition noises.
If u look at the career of Mwai Kibaki from education and career development and compare with the clowns we have you will see why we are suffering



"Tribal cocoons" .Don't you think it's so annoying when some gammament fool does some shitty stuff about his or her job then when they get busted they rush to their gishagi and call a galamoro ( meeting ) and tell his tribal cocoons that " kabila yetu inataka kumalizwa" .when I hear that people say this I usually feel like vomiting.
"Our tribe is being targeting " I hate this statement
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