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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Corruption could be a rational reaction to an unfair or inefficient and ineffective system. It is normal behaviour to quench thirst with fluid. Not salt. There are places where salty fluid is normal. Or where it's normal to take both fluid and salt to quench thirst and keep hydrated. You are mixing issues. Salty fluid is salt. And thirst is not dehydration. Not at all. You're just trying to create an argument . . . Create? Why? When you have had your bag of crisps, which have salt, are you not 'hydrated'? Why then have a feeling of thirst? The rational reaction to an unfair system is justice. There are instances where corruption can amount to justice. About salt and fluid, I've stated that there are instances where the two go together. Like in a very hot place you may need to take water and a pinch of salt.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Corruption could be a rational reaction to an unfair or inefficient and ineffective system. It is normal behaviour to quench thirst with fluid. Not salt. There are places where salty fluid is normal. Or where it's normal to take both fluid and salt to quench thirst and keep hydrated. You are mixing issues. Salty fluid is salt. And thirst is not dehydration. Not at all. You're just trying to create an argument . . . Create? Why? When you have had your bag of crisps, which have salt, are you not 'hydrated'? Why then have a feeling of thirst? The rational reaction to an unfair system is justice. There are instances where corruption can amount to justice. About salt and fluid, I've stated that there are instances where the two go together. Like in a very hot place you may need to take water and a pinch of salt. There are instances ,,,, there are places ,,,,,, That is the only way you can rationalise your claims. What happens where there are no such instances and there are no such places?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Corruption could be a rational reaction to an unfair or inefficient and ineffective system. It is normal behaviour to quench thirst with fluid. Not salt. There are places where salty fluid is normal. Or where it's normal to take both fluid and salt to quench thirst and keep hydrated. You are mixing issues. Salty fluid is salt. And thirst is not dehydration. Not at all. You're just trying to create an argument . . . Create? Why? When you have had your bag of crisps, which have salt, are you not 'hydrated'? Why then have a feeling of thirst? The rational reaction to an unfair system is justice. There are instances where corruption can amount to justice. About salt and fluid, I've stated that there are instances where the two go together. Like in a very hot place you may need to take water and a pinch of salt. There are instances ,,,, there are places ,,,,,, That is the only way you can rationalise your claims. What happens where there are no such instances and there are no such places? Showing exceptions is hardly a way of rationalizing. Am just pointing out existential facts. If there are no exceptions to a state or rule, then it becomes absolute and not amenable to debate or dispute.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Corruption could be a rational reaction to an unfair or inefficient and ineffective system. It is normal behaviour to quench thirst with fluid. Not salt. There are places where salty fluid is normal. Or where it's normal to take both fluid and salt to quench thirst and keep hydrated. You are mixing issues. Salty fluid is salt. And thirst is not dehydration. Not at all. You're just trying to create an argument . . . Create? Why? When you have had your bag of crisps, which have salt, are you not 'hydrated'? Why then have a feeling of thirst? The rational reaction to an unfair system is justice. There are instances where corruption can amount to justice. About salt and fluid, I've stated that there are instances where the two go together. Like in a very hot place you may need to take water and a pinch of salt. There are instances ,,,, there are places ,,,,,, That is the only way you can rationalise your claims. What happens where there are no such instances and there are no such places? Showing exceptions is hardly a way of rationalizing. Am just pointing out existential facts. If there are no exceptions to a state or rule, then it becomes absolute and not amenable to debate or dispute. Justice is not an exception.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Corruption could be a rational reaction to an unfair or inefficient and ineffective system. It is normal behaviour to quench thirst with fluid. Not salt. There are places where salty fluid is normal. Or where it's normal to take both fluid and salt to quench thirst and keep hydrated. You are mixing issues. Salty fluid is salt. And thirst is not dehydration. Not at all. You're just trying to create an argument . . . Create? Why? When you have had your bag of crisps, which have salt, are you not 'hydrated'? Why then have a feeling of thirst? The rational reaction to an unfair system is justice. There are instances where corruption can amount to justice. About salt and fluid, I've stated that there are instances where the two go together. Like in a very hot place you may need to take water and a pinch of salt. There are instances ,,,, there are places ,,,,,, That is the only way you can rationalise your claims. What happens where there are no such instances and there are no such places? Showing exceptions is hardly a way of rationalizing. Am just pointing out existential facts. If there are no exceptions to a state or rule, then it becomes absolute and not amenable to debate or dispute. Justice is not an exception. Let me repeat what I said, there are instances of corruption that may be deemed as just. The legal systems I know have an exceptional view of justice. That's why lawyers exist.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:
Let me repeat what I said, there are instances of corruption that may be deemed as just.
The legal systems I know have an exceptional view of justice. That's why lawyers exist.
Like which instance?
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alma wrote:Pedes wrote:alma wrote:I'm finding it interesting that no one has once mentioned on this forum the PAC report currently serialized on KTN News. mmmmmmhhhh is it because Raila is not mentioned or Uhuru? I take it that these corrupt fellows are both in gov't and the opposition. That is why the usual suspects have been quiet lately. I agree with Lumumba and I am further moved to say, I will not celebrate thieves by waking up in the morning to go choose between the richer thief and the poorer thief. wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=31894&p=4#post650910 @alma, parliamentary committees has always been a cesspool of corruption (bribery & extortion). But, guys never got to know about it because there was enough money to go around. Now, we have more MPs in these committees but the money isn't enough, so, wanaokosa/get less blow the whistle not out of virtue but jealousy. Just sit and wait till some MP thinks of coming up with a bill that encourages lobbying..... Totally agree. It's my life's mission not to work with the corrupt. I guess when lobbying becomes law I will just move. So sad because I believe in corruption that is why I want to enter parliament and specifically lucrative committees so no business with you!!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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mawinder wrote:alma wrote:Pedes wrote:alma wrote:I'm finding it interesting that no one has once mentioned on this forum the PAC report currently serialized on KTN News. mmmmmmhhhh is it because Raila is not mentioned or Uhuru? I take it that these corrupt fellows are both in gov't and the opposition. That is why the usual suspects have been quiet lately. I agree with Lumumba and I am further moved to say, I will not celebrate thieves by waking up in the morning to go choose between the richer thief and the poorer thief. wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=31894&p=4#post650910 @alma, parliamentary committees has always been a cesspool of corruption (bribery & extortion). But, guys never got to know about it because there was enough money to go around. Now, we have more MPs in these committees but the money isn't enough, so, wanaokosa/get less blow the whistle not out of virtue but jealousy. Just sit and wait till some MP thinks of coming up with a bill that encourages lobbying..... Totally agree. It's my life's mission not to work with the corrupt. I guess when lobbying becomes law I will just move. So sad because I believe in corruption that is why I want to enter parliament and specifically lucrative committees so no business with you!!!!! You are so enshrouded in darkness.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:
Let me repeat what I said, there are instances of corruption that may be deemed as just.
The legal systems I know have an exceptional view of justice. That's why lawyers exist.
Like which instance? Resolving a trumped up criminal case by paying the arresting officers a fraction of your bond or cash bail may be an instance of distributive justice.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:
Let me repeat what I said, there are instances of corruption that may be deemed as just.
The legal systems I know have an exceptional view of justice. That's why lawyers exist.
Like which instance? Resolving a trumped up criminal case by paying the arresting officers a fraction of your bond or cash bail may be an instance of distributive justice. Why cast your lot with the children of darkness? Aren't we enlightened enough?
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