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Sheikh Salim Bakari Mwarangi
AlphDoti
#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:16:36 PM
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Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun ("Surely we belong to Allah (God Almighty) and to Him shall we return")

I didn't even know who Sheikh Salim is. And we don't know who killed him for what reason!

But keep in mind that ONE DAY, each one of us will die. Even you and Me, just like sheikh Salim.

Whatever Allah gives or takes belongs to Him and everything is predestined by Him,

"Every soul shall have a taste of death and only on the Day of the Judgement shall you be paid your full recompense. Only those who are saved from the fire and admitted to Paradise (Jannah) will have attained the object (of life). For the life of this world is but good and chattels of deception." (Quran Surah Imran chapter 3:185)
AlphDoti
#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:19:28 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
mawinder wrote:
More muslim clerics should be killed and fed to pigs at lunchtime!!!!!!!

Including the Wazua one?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

@mawinder, everything that comes out of your mouth or keyboard is nonsense, foolish and unacceptable behavior.

And for @mukiri, you are hating at others, that is not Christian at all. You just defeat the whole purpose of calling yourself Christian when you yourself hates.

@mawinder and @mukiri, you generalizing a group of people because of a few individuals is just ignorant and dumb. Don't even go to church because it is pointless when you are doing something, which Jesus (peace be upon him) would not approve of.

Both of you, it is sad that you make yourself seem educated and pretend to know who the Muslims are. You can't even count up to 5 of the Muslims you know! I doubt if you know any Muslims and they know you and you know their personal lives. Until you know, you should not say anything.
Boris Boyka
#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:27:35 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/15/2013
Posts: 1,977
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AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
mawinder wrote:
More muslim clerics should be killed and fed to pigs at lunchtime!!!!!!!

Including the Wazua one?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

@mawinder, everything that comes out of your mouth or keyboard is nonsense, foolish and unacceptable behavior.

And for @mukiri, you are hating at others, that is not Christian at all. You just defeat the whole purpose of calling yourself Christian when you yourself hates.

@mawinder and @mukiri, you generalizing a group of people because of a few individuals is just ignorant and dumb. Don't even go to church because it is pointless when you are doing something, which Jesus (peace be upon him) would not approve of.

Both of you, it is sad that you make yourself seem educated and pretend to know who the Muslims are. You can't even count up to 5 of the Muslims you know! I doubt if you know any Muslims and they know you and you know their personal lives. Until you know, you should not say anything.

@Alphadoti who taught you English???? @Mukiri has used a ? (question mark) meaning he questioned @Mawinder and further told him not to repay wrong for a wrong. You're accusing @Mukiri falsely on this one!!!
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Mukiri
#14 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:36:01 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
Boris Boyka wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
mawinder wrote:
More muslim clerics should be killed and fed to pigs at lunchtime!!!!!!!

Including the Wazua one?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

@mawinder, everything that comes out of your mouth or keyboard is nonsense, foolish and unacceptable behavior.

And for @mukiri, you are hating at others, that is not Christian at all. You just defeat the whole purpose of calling yourself Christian when you yourself hates.

@mawinder and @mukiri, you generalizing a group of people because of a few individuals is just ignorant and dumb. Don't even go to church because it is pointless when you are doing something, which Jesus (peace be upon him) would not approve of.

Both of you, it is sad that you make yourself seem educated and pretend to know who the Muslims are. You can't even count up to 5 of the Muslims you know! I doubt if you know any Muslims and they know you and you know their personal lives. Until you know, you should not say anything.

@Alphadoti who taught you English???? @Mukiri has used a ? (question mark) meaning he questioned @Mawinder and further told him not to repay wrong for a wrong. You're accusing @Mukiri falsely on this one!!!

Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#15 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:08:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
mawinder wrote:
More muslim clerics should be killed and fed to pigs at lunchtime!!!!!!!

Including the Wazua one?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

@mawinder, everything that comes out of your mouth or keyboard is nonsense, foolish and unacceptable behavior.

And for @mukiri, you are hating at others, that is not Christian at all. You just defeat the whole purpose of calling yourself Christian when you yourself hates.

@mawinder and @mukiri, you generalizing a group of people because of a few individuals is just ignorant and dumb. Don't even go to church because it is pointless when you are doing something, which Jesus (peace be upon him) would not approve of.

Both of you, it is sad that you make yourself seem educated and pretend to know who the Muslims are. You can't even count up to 5 of the Muslims you know! I doubt if you know any Muslims and they know you and you know their personal lives. Until you know, you should not say anything.

@Alphadoti who taught you English???? @Mukiri has used a ? (question mark) meaning he questioned @Mawinder and further told him not to repay wrong for a wrong. You're accusing @Mukiri falsely on this one!!!

Sorry @mukiri, I misunderstood you (although I know you're smiling right now, because I know your heart anyway).

@Boris, you see I have always said I don't think I have to tell an objective person that a Christian is not necessarily an example of life of Christ. We see people claiming to be Christians like Kanyari and his other con pastors, yet they don't represent teachings of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). Jesus Christ (p.b.u.h) is also a teacher of Muslims. And a Muslim therefore, is not necessarily an example of the faith that he might claim to embrace.

What I mean is that, people don't really know about Islam. They have just heard, read in the newspapers, seen on television, know only what their teacher or professor said about Islam. They only know what their neighbours or friends say or what the priest or minister of their church say.

Many people don't have what they have come to understand from basic facts, historical, scriptural facts about system of life, which is called Islam.
They only know what they have witnessed through behavior of some Muslims.
Boris Boyka
#16 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:49:48 PM
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Long post alert!
@AlphaDoti I get you. I haven't been commenting on matters religion here much Nway. I have stayed,schooled & worked with Muslims and still so.
1. The behaviour of matters religion for many Muslims inland Kenya(90%); western(wengi than others),Nyanza,Rift valley & central if any, is GOOD. Live normal life,assisting each other&society,NO radicalisation. Live as part of society&interaction with Christians is fullest from adults to children playing&schooling together.The tribes &clans are one but religions differ but still norms & traditions of clans put them together. Easy place of study majengo-mbale-kakamega-mumias. They're a small % of Muslims.
2. Muslims from border points(Moyale,Elwak,Wajir,Garrissa,Malindi,Mombasa) matters religion behave BADLY.
a.They've mixed tribe & religion thus refer to other kenyans as KAFIRR(spare my spelling);nywele ngumu.
b. Their children are forbidden from freely interacting with "nywele ngumu" children.
c. In most of their teachings radicalisation goes on.
d. They don't smoke out radicals but hide & defend them to death.
e. They rejoice when nywele ngumu die of terrorist attacks. FYI when they want to attack they pray to Allah first then as they launch the talk like "Allah akhbar" repeatedly.
f. They believe in Jihad (holy war) and that when you kill a kafirr then die Allah rewards you greatly.
g. Mosques aren't just places of worship but hiding places for terrorist, meeting & planning holy wars. These among others have now made that religion ?????.
These very ppl have migrated from border points with that very culture into major towns & city(Nairobi,Nakuru,Eldoret). they form the larger % of Muslims.
Make your own deductions.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
AlphDoti
#17 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:09:46 PM
Rank: Elder

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Posts: 6,275
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WARNING! LONG POST! BUT PLEASE READ IT!

@BB, I agree with you that there are Muslims who behave BADLY. And it is true they are those who come from Somali origin.

But do you know what I hate? I hate when people put the word MUSLIM and TERRORIST together, like they are one or something. For example what Bush says "Muslim Terrorist". That's what people think about. They don't think about Al Qaeda terrorist, or Taliban terrorist. You want think about that? Go ahead, that is true, that is what it is!

But come on, really! Not all Muslims are terrorists! Not all Terrorists are Muslims! I want those who are brainwashed to leave the Muslims alone. I wonder if they ever think about stuff? Muslims are the same as you and me, you have no idea about what they think! Many people don't know. You @boris, it is great to know you understand!

But the millions out there who don't know that everywhere you go, there are great people out there. Talk of all those good Eastleigh traders, the women all over the country trust! You won't find anybody trusting any River Road person with his money or stock. But you will find thousand of women, some old, going to shop for Christmas in Eastleigh and they can leave a whole basketful of stocks with a man in a kanzu or Muslim cap.

People should read and study. They should know what the Muslim beliefs are. They should know what they are thinking and what comes first.

The thinking is "if you hurt one man, you hurt the whole world". Does that sound like a terrorist to you? I don't think so. It also says "If you help one man, help person, you help whole the world". Does that sound like a terrorist to you? I don't think so.

People! Muslim are the same, they are like you and me. You believe in God, he believes in Allah. You pray to God, he prays to Allah. Do you know what Allah means? Allah means God. We believe the same thing, you believe in God and Muslim believes in God. What is so different about him? Tell me? The way they pray is different? So?

@Boris, you said the people of North Eastern attack people? You and you say they say Allahu Akbar! Really? I bet you cannot even name a single real one who has done that. But you remember that from 24 series! You need to be more educated than that! You need to know who is the terrorist. If you want to be mad at somebody, be mad at Al Qaeda, be mad at Taliban. Those are the real terrorists... and George Bush!

But don't be mad at me. I'm not the one who is going out there shooting people. I am not the one who is going out there planting explosives killing innocent people. I am not the one who planned 9/11 killing thousands and say it was the terrorists! I know many people know who is doing all these attacks in the whole world.

Al QAEDA and TALIBAN WERE CREATED BY U.S. IT'S U.S. WHO PLANNED & EXECUTED 9/11 BOMBING.

But those who do not understand, I know it is tough for you. I don't blame the soldiers either, it was not their choice to join the army being sent all over to kill people. Not all soldiers are out there to kill innocent. Not all of them plant explosives...

Similarly, people should leave Muslims alone, they are not bad people. They are people just like you and me. I can't repeat myself enough, I can't make you believe. But I try.
Boris Boyka
#18 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:28:01 PM
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@AlphaDoti I know them,I can't name them. Where do you live? Have you stayed in Moyale Mandera Damasa Elwak Dertu kotulo Wajir Diff liboi daadab Garrissa holla masalani galma galla Hulugho ijara bodhei basuba mangai mararani ,baragoni garsen. the gare degodia marehan ...... I know where & what I'm talking off. do you? the Allah akhbar is a slogan I've heard & seen live live. FYI I don't watch those movies you've mentioned. I do investigative series. Ask journalists who went to Somalia or any Muslim state with conflicts. Hiyo Allah akhbar ikiimbwa jioni after evening prayers next was attacks;uliza kdf walienda Somalia. when these soldiers hear such a prayer.wanashutuka (trauma from conditioning) Clearly I see you even don't know these things Unasoma tu. You're as poor as those you blame.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
kysse
#19 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:15:13 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
@AlphaDoti I know them,I can't name them. Where do you live? Have you stayed in Moyale Mandera Damasa Elwak Dertu kotulo Wajir Diff liboi daadab Garrissa holla masalani galma galla Hulugho ijara bodhei basuba mangai mararani ,baragoni garsen. the gare degodia marehan ...... I know where & what I'm talking off. do you? the Allah akhbar is a slogan I've heard & seen live live. FYI I don't watch those movies you've mentioned. I do investigative series. Ask journalists who went to Somalia or any Muslim state with conflicts. Hiyo Allah akhbar ikiimbwa jioni after evening prayers next was attacks;uliza kdf walienda Somalia. when these soldiers hear such a prayer.wanashutuka (trauma from conditioning) Clearly I see you even don't know these things Unasoma tu. You're as poor as those you blame.


Alpha is a converted muslim.
From Alfayo Hamurabi Hamisi
Mukiri
#20 Posted : Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:40:41 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
@AlphaDoti I know them,I can't name them. Where do you live? Have you stayed in Moyale Mandera Damasa Elwak Dertu kotulo Wajir Diff liboi daadab Garrissa holla masalani galma galla Hulugho ijara bodhei basuba mangai mararani ,baragoni garsen. the gare degodia marehan ...... I know where & what I'm talking off. do you? the Allah akhbar is a slogan I've heard & seen live live. FYI I don't watch those movies you've mentioned. I do investigative series. Ask journalists who went to Somalia or any Muslim state with conflicts. Hiyo Allah akhbar ikiimbwa jioni after evening prayers next was attacks;uliza kdf walienda Somalia. when these soldiers hear such a prayer.wanashutuka (trauma from conditioning) Clearly I see you even don't know these things Unasoma tu. You're as poor as those you blame.

Laughing out loudly I've tried keeping off this thread after that unwarranted attack but niweshindwo Laughing out loudly

@Alph.. I may be wrong, but your apology seems rather half-hearted? More like an attempt to appease the good Doc; Why would you apologize to someone who's 'heart you know'(and seemingly find it wanting?) ... and whom it seems, you despise, the thought of him ever smiling/happy?

Do another one, a genuine one and I'll accept

Proverbs 19:21
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