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Impunity wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Assuming the price is right, does the age matter, the thing is just being dragged and on a century old track, may be these were the only fit available.
Also remember that our line is a narrow gauge, is it a case of having no alternatives due to phase out.
I ain't no expert but I do believe RVR are the experts on matters rail. However having said that @impunity seems to have serious passion railway and I do reepect your views as well. The meter-gauge we have is not obsolete, its our minds that have been made to be obsolete by dimwits! Brazil is the largest meter-gauge operator in the world and they track haul massive tonnage that will shame most European countries running on Standard gauge. Brazil narrow gauge/meter gauge is a massive 23,000km while the standard gauge is a mere 200!!!! Brazil has some of the heaviest trains in the world, and you know what,these run on the meter gauge track Nyeuthi in Kenya are cursing. Th standard gauge was just an arbitrarily size set by some fat muzungu so that we could have a world wide uniformity of tracks but its does not have absolute superiority/advantage to other track-gauges. Brazil is hilly and so is Switzerland and so is Kenya (Rift valley etal), the best affordable track to run is the narrow gauge coz it negotiates the bends very well...Brazil trains are doing safe speeds in the region of 120km/h, na hawaringi... My main beef is with the RVR management which called these locos brand new and worse is our Nyeuthis media who rain with hook plus the sinker!!!  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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kiash wrote:Impunity wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Assuming the price is right, does the age matter, the thing is just being dragged and on a century old track, may be these were the only fit available.
Also remember that our line is a narrow gauge, is it a case of having no alternatives due to phase out.
I ain't no expert but I do believe RVR are the experts on matters rail. However having said that @impunity seems to have serious passion railway and I do reepect your views as well. The meter-gauge we have is not obsolete, its our minds that have been made to be obsolete by dimwits! Brazil is the largest meter-gauge operator in the world and they track haul massive tonnage that will shame most European countries running on Standard gauge. Brazil narrow gauge/meter gauge is a massive 23,000km while the standard gauge is a mere 200!!!! Brazil has some of the heaviest trains in the world, and you know what,these run on the meter gauge track Nyeuthi in Kenya are cursing. Th standard gauge was just an arbitrarily size set by some fat muzungu so that we could have a world wide uniformity of tracks but its does not have absolute superiority/advantage to other track-gauges. Brazil is hilly and so is Switzerland and so is Kenya (Rift valley etal), the best affordable track to run is the narrow gauge coz it negotiates the bends very well...Brazil trains are doing safe speeds in the region of 120km/h, na hawaringi... My main beef is with the RVR management which called these locos brand new and worse is our Nyeuthis media who rain with hook plus the sinker!!! @kisah hapo kwenyu mnatumia which class of diesel electric locomotives? I was astonished last time I was in Long beach California to learn that nearly 90% of all trains in that prosperous state are diesel-electric...and mind you we dont have a truly high speed train in the whole US!!!! Yet the nyeuthis in Jubilee and wazua think Kenya should be having a high speed line from JKIA to City centre...shock on them! To them anything doing 150kh/h is "highspeed" The Danish-made DMEUs can do 200km/h comfortably, Israel just bought a couple of units recently! DMEU = Diesel Multiple Electric Units.Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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Impunity wrote:kiash wrote:Impunity wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Assuming the price is right, does the age matter, the thing is just being dragged and on a century old track, may be these were the only fit available.
Also remember that our line is a narrow gauge, is it a case of having no alternatives due to phase out.
I ain't no expert but I do believe RVR are the experts on matters rail. However having said that @impunity seems to have serious passion railway and I do reepect your views as well. The meter-gauge we have is not obsolete, its our minds that have been made to be obsolete by dimwits! Brazil is the largest meter-gauge operator in the world and they track haul massive tonnage that will shame most European countries running on Standard gauge. Brazil narrow gauge/meter gauge is a massive 23,000km while the standard gauge is a mere 200!!!! Brazil has some of the heaviest trains in the world, and you know what,these run on the meter gauge track Nyeuthi in Kenya are cursing. Th standard gauge was just an arbitrarily size set by some fat muzungu so that we could have a world wide uniformity of tracks but its does not have absolute superiority/advantage to other track-gauges. Brazil is hilly and so is Switzerland and so is Kenya (Rift valley etal), the best affordable track to run is the narrow gauge coz it negotiates the bends very well...Brazil trains are doing safe speeds in the region of 120km/h, na hawaringi... My main beef is with the RVR management which called these locos brand new and worse is our Nyeuthis media who rain with hook plus the sinker!!! @kisah hapo kwenyu mnatumia which class of diesel electric locomotives? I was astonished last time I was in Long beach California to learn that nearly 90% of all trains in that prosperous state are diesel-electric...and mind you we dont have a truly high speed train in the whole US!!!! Yet the nyeuthis in Jubilee and wazua think Kenya should be having a high speed line from JKIA to City centre...shock on them! To them anything doing 150kh/h is "highspeed" The Danish-made DMEUs can do 200km/h comfortably, Israel just bought a couple of units recently! DMEU = Diesel Multiple Electric Units. Hehe nilihama, nowadays using Shinkansen. aka TGV aka Bullet train. Funny thing is the Americans prefer bus and planes as their mode of transport whereas in some countries in Europe like France they prefer the TGV (Train Grand Vitesse) which do more than 300KPH. I do not expect anything doing more than 200KPH in Kenya soon. Look at the accidents that happen on railway crossings just because guys did not obey the lights. Now come to Kenya where almost no one obeys the lights and see how many will die. As for the 2 Billions on old engines i wonder how much one costs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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kiash wrote:Impunity wrote:kiash wrote:Impunity wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Assuming the price is right, does the age matter, the thing is just being dragged and on a century old track, may be these were the only fit available.
Also remember that our line is a narrow gauge, is it a case of having no alternatives due to phase out.
I ain't no expert but I do believe RVR are the experts on matters rail. However having said that @impunity seems to have serious passion railway and I do reepect your views as well. The meter-gauge we have is not obsolete, its our minds that have been made to be obsolete by dimwits! Brazil is the largest meter-gauge operator in the world and they track haul massive tonnage that will shame most European countries running on Standard gauge. Brazil narrow gauge/meter gauge is a massive 23,000km while the standard gauge is a mere 200!!!! Brazil has some of the heaviest trains in the world, and you know what,these run on the meter gauge track Nyeuthi in Kenya are cursing. Th standard gauge was just an arbitrarily size set by some fat muzungu so that we could have a world wide uniformity of tracks but its does not have absolute superiority/advantage to other track-gauges. Brazil is hilly and so is Switzerland and so is Kenya (Rift valley etal), the best affordable track to run is the narrow gauge coz it negotiates the bends very well...Brazil trains are doing safe speeds in the region of 120km/h, na hawaringi... My main beef is with the RVR management which called these locos brand new and worse is our Nyeuthis media who rain with hook plus the sinker!!! @kisah hapo kwenyu mnatumia which class of diesel electric locomotives? I was astonished last time I was in Long beach California to learn that nearly 90% of all trains in that prosperous state are diesel-electric...and mind you we dont have a truly high speed train in the whole US!!!! Yet the nyeuthis in Jubilee and wazua think Kenya should be having a high speed line from JKIA to City centre...shock on them! To them anything doing 150kh/h is "highspeed" The Danish-made DMEUs can do 200km/h comfortably, Israel just bought a couple of units recently! DMEU = Diesel Multiple Electric Units. Hehe nilihama, nowadays using Shinkansen. aka TGV aka Bullet train. Funny thing is the Americans prefer bus and planes as their mode of transport whereas in some countries in Europe like France they prefer the TGV (Train Grand Vitesse) which do more than 300KPH. I do not expect anything doing more than 200KPH in Kenya soon. Look at the accidents that happen on railway crossings just because guys did not obey the lights. Now come to Kenya where almost no one obeys the lights and see how many will die. As for the 2 Billions on old engines i wonder how much one costs. Eti one engine costs Kes. 110 million, thats the price of a regular Bugatti Veyron! Portfolio: Sold
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