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McReggae		#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:28:45 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		Magigi wrote: simonkabz wrote: McReggae wrote: simonkabz wrote: McReggae wrote: He actually pointed out the part of KNEC regulations that made him make the declaration, mtu alimaliza shule two years ago, every year you charge fees enough to run the school for that particular year, why do you want to keep the certs because of the historical debts, alisema mambo ya debts negotiate with the garment, certificates peana!!!! Strange to see you support Bill. Leo umeguswa wapi mzeiya? Ama you are eyeing a certain tenderment? I analyze content my brother, Ruto is right on this one, the headteachers can't continue buying machamba with historical debts that they never account for in the current year's expenditure! Agreed. Hope you continue this way na mambo yako itaangaliwa ...kuongea hivi ni kama mambo yake imeangaliwa. Pilitics is a piggy affair. ...Ruto said that in a year 500000 jobs would be created. Mahali ambako kumwandikwa hakuna kazi kutafutwa na kuandikwa kuna kazi... ...now the same gava wants to lay off 100000 workers... .. I'm no apologist for Ruto and I will not start now but on this I 100% agree with him, let's not mix it with the issue of the 500K ghost jobs!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Ngalaka		#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:57:29 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566		A middle ground should be found. The Government can quietly negotiate with the Teachers to explore various options. Issuing a fiat in the way Ruto did is not right. Consider the ramifications going forward! Who will pay fees anymore! Again Head Teachers may choose not to allow any students with fees balance to stay in School. What agony to Parents and loss to Students will that be. Ruto may then be compelled to issue yet another fiat that no students to be sent home for school fees - then some schools grind to a halt. Zero sum game! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Impunity		#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:00:05 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada		Ngalaka wrote: A middle ground should be found. The Government can quietly negotiate with the Teachers to explore various options. Issuing a fiat in the way Ruto did is not right. Consider the ramifications going forward! Who will pay fees anymore! Again Head Teachers may choose not to allow any students with fees balance to stay in School. What agony to Parents and loss to Students will that be. Ruto may then be compelled to issue yet another fiat that no students to be sent home for school fees - then some schools grind to a halt. Zero sum game! WORD! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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McReggae		#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:13:40 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		Ngalaka wrote: A middle ground should be found. The Government can quietly negotiate with the Teachers to explore various options. Issuing a fiat in the way Ruto did is not right. Consider the ramifications going forward! Who will pay fees anymore! Again Head Teachers may choose not to allow any students with fees balance to stay in School. What agony to Parents and loss to Students will that be. Ruto may then be compelled to issue yet another fiat that no students to be sent home for school fees - then some schools grind to a halt. Zero sum game! An illegality has no two ways around it, even Kanu had to hand over KICC to the garment! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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washiku		#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:16:46 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095		What does the law say? KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b) Functions of the council shall be... (a).... (b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution. A needy child's education depends on you. Click here to assist
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Impunity		#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:22:04 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada		washiku wrote: What does the law say? KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b) Functions of the council shall be... (a).... (b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution. This law is not cast in stone! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Othelo		#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:26:05 AM
Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528		Impunity wrote: washiku wrote: What does the law say? KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b) Functions of the council shall be... (a).... (b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution. This law is not cast in stone! But should be followed. Bill the Hasora knows! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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washiku		#18 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:34:19 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095		Impunity wrote: washiku wrote: What does the law say? KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b) Functions of the council shall be... (a).... (b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution. This law is not cast in stone! Your question was clear, "Under what law?" Now I need to check on the dunderhead part, whether he is one or not. Either he is a dunderhead, or whoever is calling him so is...Well, I dont think he got a first class, but as law is concerned, he is right. That I doubt is dunderhead. Impunity wrote: Now under which law did he refer to by declaring that school heads release the certs for those students with fee balances? #dunderhead! A needy child's education depends on you. Click here to assist
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Ngalaka		#19 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:39:08 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566		washiku wrote: What does the law say? KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b) Functions of the council shall be... (a).... (b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution. That may be so, though I think its debatable, but then a responsible person needs to think through the whole process and consider all the possible subsequent scenarios. Are we likely to end up hurting society more or shall we draw more benefits. For starters, why doesn't KNEC give out the docs direct to the student upon proper identification!! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Ngalaka		#20 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:44:07 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566		washiku wrote: Impunity wrote: washiku wrote: What does the law say? KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b) Functions of the council shall be... (a).... (b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution. This law is not cast in stone! Your question was clear, "Under what law?" Now I need to check on the dunderhead part, whether he is one or not. Either he is a dunderhead, or whoever is calling him so is...Well, I dont think he got a first class, but as law is concerned, he is right. That I doubt is dunderhead. Even when you have a land title of your own, someone else can hold it till you pay your debt to them! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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