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Downfall of Iraq
guru267
#11 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 8:18:21 PM
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quicksand wrote:
(they are all muslims aren't they?)


Just to be clear... Shiites are disqualified from being defined as Muslims!

They cannot and will never be! My opinion..
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Deuteronomy 4:16
ecstacy
#12 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 8:19:27 PM
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Pedes wrote:

ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and al-sham)caught the US intelligence community sleeping, by adeptly evading the much vaunted US surveillance.


They did not evade it. America disengaged from Iraq with full knowledge of the armed sectarian groups having indicated the Iraqi forces were trained for the security challenge. That obviously has backfired. They are less than 2yrs old having dissented from Al Qaeda leadership who didn't approve of their violent and brutal tactics on areas they controlled - public executions, beheadings etc The complexity to this is that they are capturing state of the art US weaponry from Iraqi military sites, have serious funding from individuals in Qatar, Kuwait and some Saudi's and have now looted $450 MILLION from Mosul. The Iraqi Prime Minister has offered weapons to civilians to fight ISIS. This group has now captured vast areas in Iraq and across in Syria where they are also fighing Assad and even the opposition FSA. They may just have made the biggest step yet in forming that Islamic State they set out to. US is about to get involved again..
ecstacy
#13 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 8:31:38 PM
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In using the term ‘the Levant’, ISIL means to include Lebanon and Jordan and Palestine to the fullest extent possible, stretching right down to the Sinai peninsula.

ISIL means to impose austere, severe Koranic Sharia law everywhere in its control. This Islamic state would be led by a supreme religious and political leader, known as a ‘caliph’.

Bush and Blair's war games, here we are.
guru267
#14 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 8:46:15 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
In using the term ‘the Levant’, ISIL means to include Lebanon and Jordan and Palestine to the fullest extent possible, stretching right down to the Sinai peninsula.

ISIL means to impose austere, severe Koranic Sharia law everywhere in its control. This Islamic state would be led by a supreme religious and political leader, known as a ‘caliph’.


No space for Israel here! Sad d'oh! Pray
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
ecstacy
#15 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 8:56:50 PM
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guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
In using the term ‘the Levant’, ISIL means to include Lebanon and Jordan and Palestine to the fullest extent possible, stretching right down to the Sinai peninsula.

ISIL means to impose austere, severe Koranic Sharia law everywhere in its control. This Islamic state would be led by a supreme religious and political leader, known as a ‘caliph’.


No space for Israel here! Sad d'oh! Pray


Yerp. Levant region comprises Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Cyprus and Southern Turkey.

Boko Haram kidnapped the girls, the world took note.

ISIL took Anbar, seized Ramadi, the provincial capital and now the fall of Fallujah, a restive city less than an hour from Baghdad, is their "Boko Haram" moment.

Israel, US and the rest of the Western world will now be forced into action, directly or indirectly!
dunkang
#16 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 9:03:51 PM
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The world is always a better place with one less religious lunatic, be it Shia, Sunni, Islamia, Catholic, Coptic, Helicoptic, legion maria, baptist, budhist, Hindu etc etc.

Wacha wamalizane!

How i wish America and Britain could be also be enjoined in this war as "Amicus Vita-ae" and assist in reducing them further, faster!!!!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

poundfoolish
#17 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 9:05:21 PM
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hoping to see those seeking for jannah and caliphates leave the rest of the world and rush to Mosul Syria and nothern nigeria and leave the rest of us to our 'sinful' freedoms.

As long as Saudi Arabia and Israel are okay. the west need not worry much. The radicals can be left to sort out their sectarian differences. Sharia law or whatever. The West will only get involved again if and when the radicals launch attacks on them again ala 9/11

Further more, they seem to be the only ones who think there is some religious backing to their claims... The Jews have their version as well and so do the Christians.
Funny enough all predict victory for the own and defeat for their enemies.
So far, 500 years, the Jews seem to still be at the top.
Due to their intolerance and launching attacks in Europe as well.. the right wing radicals have started having enough (UKIP etc). Watu warudi kwao. there is only so much a host can accept even when they prophesy freedom and tolerance.

Goodness, they are now claiming China as well and want to bomb 1 billion mandarins.
ecstacy
#18 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 9:08:12 PM
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ISIS will find Baghdad a lot harder to take than other cities on resistance from the Shia militias who'll get Iran &US support.

A Shia v Sunni war looms. If your family is working there as contractors, they better be on their way out.
guru267
#19 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 9:09:30 PM
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dunkang wrote:
How i wish America and Britain could be also be enjoined in this war as "Amicus Vita-ae" and assist in reducing them further, faster!!!!


They are still licking their wounds from Afghanistan! Sad

Taliban will launch a similar project as soon as the last US soldier is out!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
quicksand
#20 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 9:32:42 PM
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guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
In using the term ‘the Levant’, ISIL means to include Lebanon and Jordan and Palestine to the fullest extent possible, stretching right down to the Sinai peninsula.

ISIL means to impose austere, severe Koranic Sharia law everywhere in its control. This Islamic state would be led by a supreme religious and political leader, known as a ‘caliph’.


No space for Israel here! Sad d'oh! Pray

Jews are also hardcore fanatics just like some of these sectarian muslim organizations. If Israel is threatened in any serious way, either the US redeploys in the middle east again in even more numbers or a nuke shooting war is likely to be triggered. Israel is fait accompli, trying to reverse what the Brits did will lead to World War 3. Guaranteed.
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