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buy and never sell great businesses
Aguytrying
#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:06:44 PM
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this is what young was preaching on wazua and I too have been preaching.

@sparkly. Ben Graham taught us the buy undervalued and sell overvalued. Buffet perfected it by buying great relatively undervalued well run with top notch trustworthy management and never selling
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
target1360
#12 Posted : Tuesday, June 03, 2014 4:35:46 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
target1360 wrote:
After reading many books on investments,especially on munger and my own experience i now dont see the need for selling stocks of a business that has a relatively high ROE and expected continous high growth in EPS.
1. i bought centum at 13 then sold ar 20.bought at 24 sold at 35.then the other day i bought at 37.realy whats the point if paying all the transaction costs?
2.i have traded other stocks and paid unnecessary expenses not to mention market timing challenges.

bottom line is if you are able to identify a stock that compounds at a constitently high roe eg equity,centum,britam then theres no point in trading/watching the nse

And whathappens if the market crashes? Or there is an expected correction, where the price is bound to go below your purchase price?


@mukiri assuming you bought a farm at say 1 million.The farm productivity is satisfactory to you. then two years down the line everyone says that the most they d buy the farm is a half a million.would you panick and sell off the farm just because of that?
The point is to ignore the noise of the emotional stock market so long as the economics of the underlying business are intact
I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
martcentre
#13 Posted : Tuesday, June 03, 2014 4:38:45 PM
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stock.enigma wrote:
In the balance sheet, assets=liabilities. Subtracting assets from liabilities gives you zero.


Assets = Liabilities + Capital
mulla
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 5:38:50 AM
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@a guy trying...how about equity which is fairly valued at 41.00 in the banking industry but potential for growth is high if telecoms/mobile money etc works. In your opinion would buffet rules apply I.e buy low sell high cause Equity is definitely not cheap at the moment
Eugene_
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:16:51 PM
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mulla wrote:
@a guy trying...how about equity which is fairly valued at 41.00 in the banking industry but potential for growth is high if telecoms/mobile money etc works. In your opinion would buffet rules apply I.e buy low sell high cause Equity is definitely not cheap at the moment

According to buffet, You would be speculating not investing because the price is already dear. Furthermore, physical growth of the company doesnt necessarily mean the earnings will grow.
mv_ufanisi
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:20:12 PM
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In my opinion, NAV is a useful indicator but should not be the only criteria. We've got a lot of discounted stocks esp in the agricultural sector on the NSE which are asset rich but earnings poor. In order to realize the value of your purchase you have to wait for an asset sale event such as with Rea Vipingo. The quality of management, earnings growth record are equally important. Even on the global scale, we've got a lot of countries with huge assets esp in Africa but they are unable to take advantage of them because of poor management. Japan which is very physical asset poor still manages to outperform. It's always important to understand the rationale behind a theory than to copy paste without giving it some context.
Aguytrying
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:35:32 AM
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mulla wrote:
@a guy trying...how about equity which is fairly valued at 41.00 in the banking industry but potential for growth is high if telecoms/mobile money etc works. In your opinion would buffet rules apply I.e buy low sell high cause Equity is definitely not cheap at the moment


First of all buffet buys... and DOESN'T sell.

Secondly equity is OVERVALUED. P/B must be approaching 3 if not 4.

It fits all the criteria expect that its overvalued. I too will wait for it one day if mr market reduces to asking price to a more reasonable level
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
jawgey
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:38:44 PM
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In view of this thread I'd love if we shared some of the currently undervalued companies with massive potential for growth. A good example to start with would be KPLC and KQ(I know this is debatable but I still believe there's great potential if project mawingu is something to go by)
Seeing is believing
guru267
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:51:07 PM
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jawgey wrote:
In view of this thread I'd love if we shared some of the currently undervalued companies with massive potential for growth. A good example to start with would be KPLC and KQ(I know this is debatable but I still believe there's great potential if project mawingu is something to go by)


1. Unaitas
2. C&G
3. Kenya re
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
target1360
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:58:47 PM
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guru267 wrote:
jawgey wrote:
In view of this thread I'd love if we shared some of the currently undervalued companies with massive potential for growth. A good example to start with would be KPLC and KQ(I know this is debatable but I still believe there's great potential if project mawingu is something to go by)


1. Unaitas
2. C&G
3. Kenya re


@guru what do you think of Total kenya.
I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
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